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Re: Mystery tank car, etc.

SHAY STARK
 

While looking through Ted's Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual Volume 2 Tank Cars I noticed a car that is similar but of a larger capacity. It is a Standard Tank Car Company three compartment tank car owned by Shell, SCCX 164. The frames look the same and the domes look similar but the tank capacities are obviously different as SCCX 164 is 9,000 gallons and the tank on the car in the Delano picture looks to be a smaller capacity in the 4,000 to 6,000 gallon range.

Thanks,

Shay Stark

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@> wrote:

The recent thread and RMC article on the Barrett tank car conversions reminded me of something I'd noticed a few years ago in one of the Jack Delano OWI photos taken at Proviso Yard.
The car in question is the first of three tank cars in the block of cars beginning with a B&O wagontop boxcar. It appears to be a 6K gal tank car with three unusual domes or hatches, with light colored spills around them. Unfortunately, the best resolution I have isn't enough to clarify the details. I thought of a covered hopper conversion as a possibility, but I dunno. The car seems to be placarded as a hazardous commodity, so I think we can rule out slate granules. Is this image enough for anyone to recognize and identify?
Jack Mullen


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

Bill Welch
 

John, the name of the TrueLine Paint retailer is....?

Bill Welch


Re: The Pig Pancreas Train

Douglas Harding
 

Don’t have photos of a train wreck, closest I have is a wrecked meat reefer filled with meat. But here is an article with photos about a truck wreck, which should give you a good idea of the scenery/weathering that would be needed http://sobac.com/~stopthestink/2012/04/spill-leads-to-questions-about-truck-traffic/

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: The Pig Pancreas Train

stevecaple@...
 

>>     most “gut” byproducts were shipped in open gons 


Sounds like the recipe for a really unusual tran wreck scene



--- In stmfc@..., <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Bob, good question. Here’s the article http://forecast.diabetes.org/insulin-jul2013

 

I can only speculate. The pancreases would have been collected at slaughter houses and labeled as a PHP (Packing House Product). Packing house owners knew there was money to be made with byproducts, so they were set up for retrieving all animal parts that had value. Indianapolis, home of Eli Lily, was a major slaughter town once known as Porkopolis for the number of hogs slaughtered there. It was also home of Kingan Meats.

 

I will go out on a limb and suggest the pancreases were shipped in reefers, to keep them “fresh”. Insulin must be refrigerated, why not the source? While most “gut” byproducts were shipped in open gons, the contents in the gons were intended for fertilizer not human consumables. Other byproducts, especially those for human consumption, were shipped in the controlled environment of reefers, boxcars or tank cars.

 

It is very possible that National Provisioner magazine had an article discussing this very subject. They published a number of articles related to byproducts and making money from animal byproducts.

 

According to http://www.madehow.com/Volume-7/Insulin.html it was in 1921 the first insulin was produced. In 1936 an improvement required a fish byproduct.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

Brad Andonian
 

Guys, I googled him and his address. It popped up.

Brad andonian

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From: Allen Cain ;
To: ;
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars
Sent: Wed, Sep 18, 2013 12:39:48 PM

 

Okay, can Brad or anyone provide a phone number for Jerry Glow?

 

I uncomfortable posting it, please send it to me in a private response.

 

allencain@...

 

Allen Cain

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

 attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin. Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors. I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors). Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush. But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily. Try one--I think you'll like them.

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

golden1014
 

Gents,

 

Speaking of True Color paint, we had a retailer at STL RPM that carried the full line, and I bought five bottles to try out.  I love it!  It's very thin, can be sprayed right out of the bottle, and the colors are excellent.  I attempted to brush paint with it and got bad results, most likely because it's so thin.  Also, be advised that normal paint thinner cannot be used to thin the paint, and I have not been able to mix this paint with any other brand to modify the colors.  I have also not been able to mix it with Glosscote or Dullcote (as I do sometimes to alter colors).  Laquer thinner works to clean your airbrush.  But I am pleased that there are finally good colors like IC Maroon and NYC BC Red that I have never been able to make satisfactorily.  Try one--I think you'll like them.

 

John Golden

O'Fallon, IL 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


Re: Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

Okay, can Brad or anyone provide a phone number for Jerry Glow?

 

I uncomfortable posting it, please send it to me in a private response.

 

allencain@...

 

Allen Cain

 


Re: Piedmont & Northern boxcar

Misc Clark
 

Curt - I am a fan of the P&N...what's the project you're working on...I'm not near my resources right now but I'll check for a side view of the car you're looking for...not many pics available of the P&N unfortunately...
Clark Cone
Charlotte, NC


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:
 

I'm looking for a decent broadside of the P&N 1100 series boxcars in the latter scheme, with the script Service with Courtersy (not the circular logo).  This is to help with the artwork for a decal project.  I've got 3/4 views, just looking for a shot closer to broadside.  Thanks.


Curt Fortenberry



Jerry Glow Decal Delivery

allencain@...
 

Does anyone have a different way to contact Jerry Glow to get delivery information on orders?  I have tried REPEATEDLY to contact him at jerryglow@... and at calflash@... with no response.

My PAYMENT for decals was processed over four months ago and have not received the decals or any response to my emails.

Honestly I am reaching the age where I may have to give up the hobby before the decals I have paid for arrive, if they ever do.

Allen Cain


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I noticed on page of the Sept issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist an ad for a paint line from TrueLine Trains. I clicked on the link and in the description of their acrylic paint line this is the first sentence: "True Line Train paint is blended by the RPM corporation to our strict standards and is consistent from batch to batch."

Interesting. RPM shut down their two lines of Railroad paints.

Bill Welch

If you contacted RPM and offered to purchase their paint line I strongly suspect you would have their immediate attention. Several model paint suppliers who have been mentioned on this list in the past do not mix their own paint. They purchase regularly available paint in 5 gallon pails that is simply mixed to their color
specifications/requirements and then bottle it for sale to the hobby commiunity. Floquil, to the best of my knowledge, was always mixed by Floquil or whomever its parent company was at the time. I believe Scalecoat may now be mixed by Quality Craft but am not certain of that, nor do I know where Tamiya's paint comes from, but I do not believe any of the smaller paint suppliers are mixing their own paint. So, if someone wants to become a hobby supplier there may be an opportunity with the Floquil line. Be prepared for all sorts of paperwork if you wish to sell in California or Canada, however.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: TrueLine Trains Paint

thecitrusbelt@...
 

And not to be confused with Tru-Color Paint ( http://www.trucolorpaint.com/ ).  A number of modelers in my area have started using this brand and are pleased with the results.  According to the company’s website the paint is manufactured in this country.  Tru-Color Paint “reformulated the old Accupaint material to flow better and give a more glossy appearance after drying."

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet , CA

 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

I noticed on page of the Sept issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist an ad for a paint line from TrueLine Trains. I clicked on the link and in the description of their acrylic paint line this is the first sentence: "True Line Train paint is blended by the RPM corporation to our strict standards and is consistent from batch to batch."

Interesting. RPM shut down their two lines of Railroad paints.

Bill Welch


Naperville Room

Jared Harper
 

Anyone want to  share a  room at Naperville October 16-19?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


TrueLine Trains Paint

Bill Welch
 

I noticed on page of the Sept issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist an ad for a paint line from TrueLine Trains. I clicked on the link and in the description of their acrylic paint line this is the first sentence: "True Line Train paint is blended by the RPM corporation to our strict standards and is consistent from batch to batch."

Interesting. RPM shut down their two lines of Railroad paints.

Bill Welch


Re: Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

Paul Koehler <buygone@...>
 

Brad:

 

Easy to say hard to do if you don’t have the phone number.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Brad Andonian
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:27 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

 

 

Jim,

 

I would call him; I have received decals from him all year.   Sometimes the wait is longer than others.   
Good luck,

BRad

 

From: SMMW
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:10 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

 

I paid for 2 sets of SOU flat car decals from Jerry Glow in August 2012 (that’s right, over a year ago) but never rec’d them despite the check being cashed right away.  He hasn’t answered multiple emails so I’m stuck with 2 sets of really nice Chad Boaz castings.

 

Can someone update me as to what’s going on with him?  If these decals were ever produced and someone has extras, I’d like to buy 1 each of the Roman and Block font sets.  Otherwise, I’m open to buying decals for other roads just to finish the cars or I’ll sell both unbuilt kits to the first person that wants them.  Please reply off-list if you want the kits.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

Asheville, North Carolina

Ph. (828) 777-5619

 

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