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Re: Yellow Paint

roblmclear <rob.mclear3@...>
 

Armand

I have been custom painting models for others for some time now and got a solution to this problem by accident when I had to repaint my house would you believe. I was trying to cover some dark blue paint on the walls, no I didn't put it there, I had tried to cover it on a number of occassions but it still bled through. He suggested painting it silver first, I was sceptical but did it anyway, hey presto, no problem blue covered and the top coat was fine.

I have always had trouble with white and yellow on models as well and tried the silver trick on them as well. One thin coat of silver over the model and then paint with another thin coat of the yellow or white seems to do the trick for me. I use Floquil and thin the paint more than the manifacturer recommends. I get very good coverage of the yellow and whites with this method. Hope it helps.

Regards
Rob McLear
Kingaroy Australia.


Re: Yellow Paint

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Hi guys.



Sorry I can't speak from experience on any modern paints, back in the days I
did lot of painting using the early, lacquer bases Floquil and the standard
Scale Coat paints. I never had any problems getting excellent coverage using
Floquil flats finishes but that glossy Scale Coat was another matter
entirely. Light colors including yellows would just run off any sharp edges.
What I eventually learned as a method of applying it was to spray a very
lite base coat, light enough that the paint would not gloss. Yes this was a
bit of a dry coat but with practice it worked well. Then I apply a normal
second coat while the first was still slightly tacky. The course base coat
gave some "tooth" for the second coat the cling to.



John Hagen



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Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:34 PM
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Armand,

Neither do I, especially with Poly Scale white, even on gray plastic. A
several light coats seems to be better than a couple of heavy coats. The
toughest application is ModelFlex in any color.

Nelson Moyer

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Armand Premo
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint
I guess I have been spoiled having used Accupaint.I use a primer,I have used
all brands including Acrylics.I have an airbrush.I do not seem to get the
same coverage that I get with darker shades.Armand Premo
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint

Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

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<armprem2@...> wrote:

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most
brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


Re: Yellow Paint

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

Armand,



Neither do I, especially with Poly Scale white, even on gray plastic. A
several light coats seems to be better than a couple of heavy coats. The
toughest application is ModelFlex in any color.



Nelson Moyer

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Armand Premo
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint





I guess I have been spoiled having used Accupaint.I use a primer,I have used
all brands including Acrylics.I have an airbrush.I do not seem to get the
same coverage that I get with darker shades.Armand Premo
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From: Pierre
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint

Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "appremo"
<armprem2@...> wrote:

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most
brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


Re: Yellow Paint

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Accupaint yellow simply does not cover well, even over the gray Accupaint
primer to be used on brass. The yellow nose on ERIE F-units is particularly
aggravating.



SGL



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Bruce F. Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint





Armand,

Not just any priner - the base coat under yellow must be grey or silver to
get any kind of decent coverage and even there, you'll need multiple coats.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint

I guess I have been spoiled having used Accupaint.I use a primer,I have used
all brands including Acrylics.I have an airbrush.I do not seem to get the
same coverage that I get with darker shades.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Pierre
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint

Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "appremo"
<armprem2@...> wrote:

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most
brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


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Re: Yellow Paint

Bill Vaughn
 

I put down a white coat of paint first.

Bill Vaughn


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Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Yellow Paint


 
Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


Re: Yellow Paint

Bruce Smith
 

Armand,

Not just any priner - the base coat under yellow must be grey or silver to get any kind of decent coverage and even there, you'll need multiple coats.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Armand Premo [armprem2@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:19 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint

I guess I have been spoiled having used Accupaint.I use a primer,I have used all brands including Acrylics.I have an airbrush.I do not seem to get the same coverage that I get with darker shades.Armand Premo
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From: Pierre
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint



Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:
>
> Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo
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Re: StL RPM

Jason Greene
 

Who built this car?
http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/image/145089875

I really like what you have done here.

Jason Greene


Re: Yellow Paint

Armand Premo
 

I guess I have been spoiled having used Accupaint.I use a primer,I have used all brands including Acrylics.I have an airbrush.I do not seem to get the same coverage that I get with darker shades.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Pierre
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Yellow Paint



Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:
>
> Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo
>


Re: Yellow Paint

Jim Williams <wwww5960@...>
 

Armand....I assume your airbrushing........I've used both Floquil and Scalecoat......with primer (Floquil) and without primer(Scalecoat) ....Key is a light but solid 1st coat, let dry and then a second coat will properly cover.......When I tried to do it with one coat I would get runs.......Jim W.


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--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo



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Re: Yellow Paint

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Armand,
Are you using a primer/base coat?
Something in a light gray?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


Yellow Paint

Armand Premo
 

Need help getting good coverage with yellow paint.I have tried most brands,but am rarely satisfied with the results.Any suggestions?Armand Premo


Re: Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars - Thanks for the Help!

Richard Dermody <ddermody@...>
 

Bill,

The correct part number is 90383. See http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=90383

Dick

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, William E. Botkin wrote:

Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry about trucks for the F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars. With all the suggestions, I stumbled on another option that seems to a good match from Athearn Parts. They have trucks available as parts for their Roundhouse 40' Wood Pfaudler Milk Cars and from the photos, they look correct with the longer wheelbase and 36 inch wheels. The parts number is:
ATHP90386 TRK 70T RTR 36"MACH WHLS CHINA for $7.98 (2pk)

Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO

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Re: C&O 100-ton Gondola article on eBay

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi,

Replying to this a little late, but there is a story I'd like to pass on...

I remember reading Al's classic article back when it was published. It was a total inspiration, and encouraged me to make my first attempts at making castings of my own.

The car side castings I did back then were for the PRR class G23 "battleship" gon. I made a side master, cast up a pair of sides, and went on to complete the rest of the car. This was back in the very early 1990's, when prototype modeling in general had not yet reached the level we have today, and when prototype modeling in N scale was basically unheard of.

It was also at this time that I attended my first PRRT&HS convention. I brought my completed G23 model to the model contest. I didn't have a whole lot of self-confidence back then in my modeling skills, and I was kind of afraid to display the model, lest people look at it and laugh. But I entered it in the contest anyway.

As it turned out, nobody laughed. Instead, one older fellow was carefully examining my model, and I came over to talk with him and we spoke for a while. After a few sentences, this fellow explained "I've built a battleship gon myself, but I did the C&O version". It had not yet occured to me to look at his name tag, but when I did, yes, you guessed it, it said "Al Westerfield".

You could have knocked me over with a feather!

- Claus Schlund

--- In STMFC@..., "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

And of course, Al W’s article in the 12/89 issue of RMJ is viewable on-line at

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/7/471/december-1989-page-19

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Al and Patricia Westerfield
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:02 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] C&O 100-ton Gondola article on eBay



Al â€" You don’t need to spend big bucks on the article. I drew model railroad plans from the article, had the photos from the article and a how to build the car in the 12/89 issue of Railmodel Journal. It was the project that got me into the business. â€" Al Westerfield

From: al.kresse
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:53 PM
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] C&O 100-ton Gondola article on eBay

By any chance did anyone on this group get the winning bid on the 1922 Railway Review 4-page article about the C&O 91-ton capy 6-wheel trucked gondola cars? I thought I had somebody seriously bidding on it for me for scanning of drawins for use in a C&O History magazine article on those cars. Any leads to the purchaser would be appreciated.





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Re: StL RPM

Clark Propst
 

Thanks John, I'm off to NW Ontario tomorrow.
Clark propst

--- In STMFC@..., "John" <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Clark,

We missed you! Some photos are at http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2012_st_louis_rpm_meet&page=all but they're not organized yet.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@..., "Clark and Eileen" <cepropst@> wrote:

Anyone have any photos or comments on the recent RPM in Collinsville IL?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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New CHWHS Modeler

ron christensen
 

Volume 5 #2 CNWHS Modeler is now on the web site.
http://www.cnwhs.org/modeling.htm
Modeling stories and layout pictures are welcome (We are running low). Please send questions, comments, corrections, and additions to
cnwhs_modeler@....
Ron Christensen


Re: Car Accident !!!.....(Mike Calvert)

Jared Harper
 

Sounds like a typical scam to me.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA

--- In STMFC@..., Christopher Parker <conductorchris@...> wrote:

This could be fraud

On 8/2/2012 7:15 AM, MIKE CALVERT wrote:

Good Morning,

I hope my mail get to you in good health?,I made
a trip to Madrid Spain just for a short vacation tour but,it all ended
ugly, I had an accident of which I dislocated my right arm and my head
got bruised. The driver of the cab passed on due to internal bleeding
and the injuries he sustained on his head.

I have not been able
to reach any one due to the fact that I misplaced my mobile phone during
the incident.Thank goodness, I'm safe. presently in the hospital, due
to the injuries I sustained. I need your urgent assistance to enable me
get out of here. I will be very grateful if you will be able to assist
me financially I promise to refund your money as soon as i get back home

Regards,

Awaiting your response.
Mike.

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Re: Accurail model list

O Fenton Wells
 

By the way Mike, I got a nice email from Don this morning and explained to
him that I do not want to be a manufacturer...I just wanted to buy some
great parts, knowing his quality. He said that I spent too much time on
the computer and not enough modeling, which I am guilty of when it gets
this hot. I asked him to let me know if I can buy these and where but have
not heard back from him yet.
Fenton

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Mike Brock <@MB8444> wrote:

**


Tom Dill writes:

"If someone knows the maker of these parts I would hope they would pass
along that many of us would be very interested in purchasing some sets. I
had no idea these were even available. If someone has an extra set or two
they would be willing to sell I would gladly purchase them. What a great
kitbash!"

The parts are available from NERS...New England Rail Supply at:

riverman_vt@...

or Smail:

NERS, P.O. Box #1059, Leesburg, VA 20177

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner




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Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
@srrfan


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Trucks for F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars - Thanks for the Help!

webotkin
 

Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry about trucks for the F&C Twin Tank Milk Cars. With all the suggestions, I stumbled on another option that seems to a good match from Athearn Parts. They have trucks available as parts for their Roundhouse 40' Wood Pfaudler Milk Cars and from the photos, they look correct with the longer wheelbase and 36 inch wheels. The parts number is:
ATHP90386 TRK 70T RTR 36"MACH WHLS CHINA for $7.98 (2pk)

Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO


Re: StL RPM

golden1014
 

Hi Dave,

The YV models are by George Spriggs of Columbia, IL. Great guy and a great modeler.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@..., "sartherdj@..." <sartherdj@...> wrote:


John,

Thanks for posting this link to photos from the StL RPM 2012 Convention. I see many familiar, smiling faces in the photos that I know from attending the Naperville RPM conventions. Great collection of models and photos of the outstanding modeling efforts.

Can anyone identify the modeler of the Yosemite Lumber Company structure? (slide row 25, slide 2) Can anyone share the source of a magazine article about this structure, other structure photos or a measured drawing or plan of this outstanding modeling effort?

Thanks, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ


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Re: Accurail model list

Mikebrock
 

Tom Dill writes:

"If someone knows the maker of these parts I would hope they would pass along that many of us would be very interested in purchasing some sets. I had no idea these were even available. If someone has an extra set or two they would be willing to sell I would gladly purchase them. What a great kitbash!"

The parts are available from NERS...New England Rail Supply at:

riverman_vt@...

or Smail:

NERS, P.O. Box #1059, Leesburg, VA 20177

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner