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Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

D. Scott Chatfield
 

There was an annual publication titled "Official Railway Clearances Guide" from the same folks that printed the ORG and the ORER.  its purpose was to show the vertical and horizontal clearances of each stretch of line in North America.  Every significant agency had a copy and I'm sure that every shipper who originated high & wide loads also had one.

Scott Chatfield

Re: SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

Douglas Harding
 

Yes that is an Swift reefer, wearing a pre 1934 paint scheme. Similar to those seen in this photo http://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2016/03/swift-company.html

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:06 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

 

Hi List Members,

 

Not the best image in the world, certainly lacking in focus, but this looks to be a SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

Re: SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

Richard Townsend
 

Note there are only two hinges on each side of the door.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 1:06 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

Hi List Members,
 
Not the best image in the world, certainly lacking in focus, but this looks to be a SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

mel perry
 

hi:
this link leads to the entire collection 
could you be a little more specific?
thanks
mel perry

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 1:06 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Not the best image in the world, certainly lacking in focus, but this looks to be a SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

Brian Termunde
 

Fritz,
Thanks for sharing!

Take care,

Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT

SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Not the best image in the world, certainly lacking in focus, but this looks to be a SWITFT reefer in billboard lettering...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: ERIE 7211 & Friend

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Andy and List Members,
 
Thanks Andy for pointing us to this great shot.
 
I did a bit of sleuthing... the two cars appear to be of identical construction, and according to my Dec 1930 ORER this means they are part of series ERIE 7208-7212, with a total of 5 cars. Between the two leftmost gentlemen obscuring the number one can see the digit "9". I think we can reasonably conclude the car nearest the camera is ERIE 7209.
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:49 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE 7211 & Friend

Gents,

The Barriger Library posted this image of two ERIE FD cars with large loads:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49066491078/ 

ERIE 7211 is the car in the distance, car in foreground has its number obscured.

Andy
Wisconsin

Re: NP Wood Reefer

brianleppert@att.net
 

No, Dennis, they are different underframes.  Compare the vertical height of the ends of the "needle beams".  On 94631 they're only a little taller than the body bolster ends.  On 92238, they're much taller.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

Re: Wedge Plow Blades

Nelson Moyer
 

Not even close.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Wedge Plow Blades

 

Hi Nelson,

 

    You mean you're not happy with the AHM version of a gondola mounted wedge plow?  lol

I thought they might have copied the CB&Q one for it.

 

My best, Don Valentine -  in a territory that only saw Russell or CPR plows.

Re: Looking for car colors and road numbers (Tichy Flatcars)

Tony Thompson
 

RJ Dial wrote:

Step 23 of the Owl Mountain SP F-50 flatcar instructions says "Paint Specs called for SP Flatcars to have decks painted flatcar red".   The instructions references some book by a guy named Anthony W. Thompson called "Southern Pacific Freight Cars Vol 3" for photos.    

       I have no idea where Jason Hill got this idea. There is no such "paint spec" in my book, nor does any photo I have ever seen of an SP flat car suggest a painted deck. I suspect Jason's citation of my book is for overall information, not that specific paint detail. At least I hope so.

Tony Thompson



Re: Wedge Plow Blades

Donald B. Valentine
 

Hi Nelson,

    You mean you're not happy with the AHM version of a gondola mounted wedge plow?  lol
I thought they might have copied the CB&Q one for it.

My best, Don Valentine -  in a territory that only saw Russell or CPR plows.

Re: PFE

Paul Doggett
 

Thank you Ken 

Paul 


On 19 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:

Paul

I know you are located in the UK so may not have been able to pick up a copy of the SPH&TS Southern Pacific Freight Car Painting and Lettering Guide by Tony and Dick Harley. About 40% of that volume is devoted to PFE paint schemes. So you might try Dick Harley's website https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFEModels/PFE-Modeling-Clinics.

I just noticed Dick's presentation at the 2019 SPH&TS presentation at Ogden this past spring which I was unable to attend is now included. 

best

Re: PFE

Ken Adams
 

Paul

I know you are located in the UK so may not have been able to pick up a copy of the SPH&TS Southern Pacific Freight Car Painting and Lettering Guide by Tony and Dick Harley. About 40% of that volume is devoted to PFE paint schemes. So you might try Dick Harley's website https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFEModels/PFE-Modeling-Clinics.

I just noticed Dick's presentation at the 2019 SPH&TS presentation at Ogden this past spring which I was unable to attend is now included. 

best

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Interesting load on a SAL flat

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Charlie;

It may have indeed been photographed for one of those reasons. In most of my research into period photos of flats and gons, many are photos taken for damage claim purposes, especially with "high and wides".

Elden Gatwood

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
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All-

I wonder how far that excess height load got before taking out a wagon bridge or wires crossing the track??

Charlie Vlk



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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:56 AM
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Here's an earlier version of a water tube boiler on a flat car, from Saginaw, Michigan in 1895.

The Flint & Pere Marquette was one of the predecessors to the Pere Marquette, which owned the second flat car in the photo at the top of this thread.

- Fritz Milhaupt

Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

I wonder how far that excess height load got before taking out a wagon bridge or wires crossing the track??

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Interesting load on a SAL flat

 

Here's an earlier version of a water tube boiler on a flat car, from Saginaw, Michigan in 1895.

The Flint & Pere Marquette was one of the predecessors to the Pere Marquette, which owned the second flat car in the photo at the top of this thread.

- Fritz Milhaupt

ERIE 7211 & Friend

Andy Laurent
 

Gents,

The Barriger Library posted this image of two ERIE FD cars with large loads:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49066491078/ 

ERIE 7211 is the car in the distance, car in foreground has its number obscured.

Andy
Wisconsin

Re: How's Tichy doing currently, decal thickness and all?

Tim O'Connor
 


Although I have not compared them with Dick's new Microscale sets (which are more complete
and certainly easier to use) to Champ's old PFE super-set, I used the Champ set to replace
most of the lettering that came with a Sunshine kit as I found it was extremely accurate.


On 11/14/2019 9:16 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Dick Harley wrote:

Tichy PFE decals have lettering that is the wrong size and shape - some too big, some too small.  The numbers are the wrong size, and their shape is nowhere near what PFE (and SP and UP) used.  The UP medallions are the wrong shape and style.

Compare lettering to the SPH&TS painting & lettering book, or new Microscale sets 87-501 or 60-501.  Compare medallions to the book or Microscale 87-414 or MC-4021.
Tichy's PFE artwork is just not accurate - or even close. 

     Dick is exactly right. I haven't bought any Tichy PFE decals, because I rely on the "gold standard," the new Microscale sets with Dick's superb artwork, taken from PFE drawings. But I recently looked at a friend's PFE set from TIchy, and as Dick says, not even close. I have no idea what, if anything, these decals are based on, but obviously not the prototype. Caveat emptor.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Looking for car colors and road numbers (Tichy Flatcars)

Jim Betz
 

Hi,
  I don't remember ever seeing any flat car deck (from any RR) that
wasn't "weathered wood" (grey+brown tones) in color ... both in
real life and in photos.
  Although it is certainly possible that some RRs painted the decks
when new/delivered ... I would be surprised to learn that they ever
re-painted and would expect the deck to loose all traces of paint
very quickly.  But what do I know?
  My process for 'coloring' flat car decks involves a base coat of
grey that is then dry brushed with a fine brush and a variety of
different color streaks applied in random - the majority of those
streaks are different shades of grey with a very few any shade
of brown.  These 'colors' are often thinned out to a wash for
this one, then thicker for the next, etc.
  The final step, as is my usual practice for all weathering,
is to airbrush a Very light 'dusting coat' of some weathering color
or other (grey/charcoal/tuscan/what ever).  This last step "blends"
the overall car colors and makes it hard to see the brush strokes or
washes as separate colors.
                                                                                                 - Jim

Re: Wedge Plow Blades

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks, but the blade would take a lot of surgery, and after that, the compound curves still wouldn’t look quite right.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of StephenK
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:12 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Wedge Plow Blades

 

You may want to take a look at the old Rivarossi snow plow/gondola.   They are available on ebay (  https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-Rivarossi-Erie-077-Snow-Plow-Kadees-Sprung-trucks/333403583761?hash=item4da066f511:g:J8AAAOSwa-hd0sOU  )   and often for not much money.

Steve Kay

Re: Wedge Plow Blades

StephenK
 

You may want to take a look at the old Rivarossi snow plow/gondola.   They are available on ebay (  https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-Rivarossi-Erie-077-Snow-Plow-Kadees-Sprung-trucks/333403583761?hash=item4da066f511:g:J8AAAOSwa-hd0sOU  )   and often for not much money.

Steve Kay