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Re: Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

radiodial868
 

We already have the term "Extreme Modeling", so maybe we need another term, like "Rabbit-hole Modeling", as in "it should be easy to take this plastic kit/car and tweak it a bit to make a nice prototype model of it", and then down the rabbit-hole we go, emerging on the other side all sorts of rework accomplished after reviewing prototype photos and data and then starting actual work on the model. "Well, I've corrected this detail, might as well fix this one here why I'm at it. Oops, this doesn't look right per the prototype, I better change this too".  And down the rabbit-hole....

Once painted it will be a car few others will have. Prime example, nice.  
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Larry and List Mermbers,
 
I had this same problem, here is what I found, my desktop computer has an older copy of the Firefox browser, and I saw everything EXCEPT the image!
 
Using my laptop (which has a more recent version of Firefox) works just fine, I see everything including the image.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Dear Mr Chaparro
I do not see how you get the Archives Canada pictures. I get a screen showing the photo's catalog data
but not the actual picture. This has been true of all the ones I have tried to open. Also,is GT 79799 a steel general service gon?
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Bob,

And the CN cars did get down into the US. In James H. Harrison's SACRAMENTO NORTHERN GALLERY there is a photo of one taken about 1956 on the SN (pulled by a GE steeple cab!) at Lake Temescal near Oakland, California. The car in the photo wears the later gray paint scheme. Since the train is eastbound, I presume the car is empty and was going home via the WP and GN. It most certainly was unloaded on the partially-WP owned Oakland Terminal, since nearly all the SN's eastbound traffic out of Oakland came off the OT (the SN only served team tracks west of Laffayette and had no major customers of their own). Why it would have appeared in the Bay Area is a head scratcher. My best guess is it arrived with some specialty Canadian meat or fish product.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:08 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3514331

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1939.

I understand PFE and Fruit Growers also had a few refrigerator cars of the eight hatch/overhead bunker design.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

Clark Propst
 

I always kidded Stan that he should change his name to Ralph Rydarowicz  ;  ))

Clark Propst


Re: Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

Richard Townsend
 

Yeah after posting I saw that there wasn’t a River line across the top of the tank. My eyes had tricked me on my first quick look. Thanks.


On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Richard,

3 radial course. There is only one longitudinal course, the bottom one. This is typical radial course tank car construction. For example, the same is true of the 1917 GATC 5-radial course tank car (as modeled in HO by Tangent).

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)
 
How do we describe this tank car? A three-course, three-course car? (three-course radial, three-course longitudinal)

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2020 10:06 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)
A photo from the National Archives of Canada:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Car built 1930.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Bill Parks
 
Edited

Bob - 

FGE had about 200 overhead bunker cars (reporting marks FOBX), and WFE had another 50 (WOBX).  They were 50 footers (actually about 53), and from the few photos I've seen, it looks like they had ten hatches.

--
Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida


Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Ray Breyer
 

I haven''t found original plans for the Indestructible ends, but similar ends are in the 1913 CBD (no diagonal braces). Between those plans and the wealth of closeup photos of the ends in the DL&W company photo collection my plan is to scratch several of the Lackawanna cars. Once I perfect the technique I'll be sure to write a piece for Eric Hansmann's blog!

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 12:44:05 PM CDT, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:


Group,

I was looking at Ray Breyer's discussion of the Accurail 1800 series boxcar and kitbash posiblities for the D&H 36' DS boxcar.  I would like to find more information on the "indestructible end" and the inverse Hutchins end.  I know that Funaro has models with the inverse Hutchins ends so they may be a source if they sell the ends separately.  Are there any other possible sources for this end?

Are there any drawings or articles which I can reference to bash the "indestructible ends"? 

Thanks,

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

John Riddell
 

The photo shows the first CN overhead ice bunker reefer as built in October 1939. The first 200 were delivered painted mineral brown.  Beginning in August 1943 the following 2,985 were delivered painted medium grey with the maple leaf herald.


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

John Riddell
 

1939 to late 1940s.


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

What a neat refer that No. Pac. #94631 is! That would be a GREAT prototype for Frank Hodina

To do masters for as nicely as he did those for the Santa Fe Rr-11 for Sunshine. That is easily on

of the best resin car kits to assemble I’ve ever experienced and offers superb results. Like your

model of the prototype as well and see ahy you chose it.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: OIL CAR

Ed Mims
 

The ACL RR operated its own diesel engine lube oil re-refining facility in Jacksonville,FL for many years. Company owned tank cars were used at shop locations which changed oil to store the used oil and to transport it to the re-refining facility. After the used oil was cleaned new additives were added under lavatory control and the re-refined product shipped to a shop location were it was again used in locomotive engines. This was approved by EMD as a suitable substitute for new oil, but only as make-up oil and not a full crankcase refill. At the time ACL was 100% EMD road power and a handful of ALCO and Baldwin yard engines (these were later converted to use EMD engines).

Here is a link to an interesting paper on used oil reclamation:

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2011/ph240/maher2/

Ed Mims
Jacksonville, FL

Ed Mims


Re: Digital Caliper Recommendation

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

 

IIRC that’s the same Japanese firm that was making Vernier calipers for PFM that read

out in HO scale measurements. There was a fellow in Grantham, NH who kept them in

the marketplace after PFM stopped selling them but he has been gone for some years  

now. I have two from Frankfort Arsenal and one from another firearms supplier that

were bought some fifteen years ago and all read out in either metric or English at the

push of a button. Since HO scale is metric it should be obvious which scale is used most

in this hobby, Two are in my tool box and the third is in my reloading bench. None of

these cost more than $15 and all have proved satisfactory, nor are the math convefrsions

that difficult.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

lrkdbn
 

Dear Mr Chaparro
I do not see how you get the Archives Canada pictures. I get a screen showing the photo's catalog data
but not the actual picture. This has been true of all the ones I have tried to open. Also,is GT 79799 a steel general service gon?
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Scott
 

How long did the brown paint scheme last?

Scott McDonald 


Re: In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

Bill Welch
 

Stan was one one lovable sweet guy I enjoyed talking to about many to[topics, especially politics.

Bill Welch


Re: Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

Bruce Smith
 

Richard,

3 radial course. There is only one longitudinal course, the bottom one. This is typical radial course tank car construction. For example, the same is true of the 1917 GATC 5-radial course tank car (as modeled in HO by Tangent).

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)
 
How do we describe this tank car? A three-course, three-course car? (three-course radial, three-course longitudinal)

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2020 10:06 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)
A photo from the National Archives of Canada:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Car built 1930.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Pacific Fruit Express Reefers 47269 and 47312 Upgrade

Tony Thompson
 

     Lester did a great job with these upgrades. I endorse every one! including the added lettering. As Richard Hendrickson used to say, "these models aren't ready-to-RUN, they are ready-to FINISH." Nicely done, Lester.

Tony Thompson




Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Eric Hansmann
 

A few railroads used ends similar to the indestructible design to upgrade older cars. They turn up on wood sheathed B&O, DL&W, and Erie boxcars.

 

It was determined awhile back by a couple B&O modelers that the ends used on B&O cars were home built and had differences to the ends used on D&H, DL&W, and Erie cars. IIRC, one major difference is the angled pieces point a different way on the B&O cars.

 

This end view of an Erie boxcar shows the design, but the components don’t seem a heavy as what was used on B&O cars.

http://hansmanns.org/images/canton_industry_2.JPG

 

Compare the Erie car end with the B&O car in the attachment.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

 

Group,

I was looking at Ray Breyer's discussion of the Accurail 1800 series boxcar and kitbash posiblities for the D&H 36' DS boxcar.  I would like to find more information on the "indestructible end" and the inverse Hutchins end.  I know that Funaro has models with the inverse Hutchins ends so they may be a source if they sell the ends separately.  Are there any other possible sources for this end?

Are there any drawings or articles which I can reference to bash the "indestructible ends"? 

Thanks,

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

gtws00
 

So far so good. I'm liking it.
Should good good in paint
George Toman


Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Chuck Cover
 

RE: November and December 1987 RMC

Thanks Don,

I checked and do not have those issues so I will work on finding them.

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM

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