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Re: Soo Line boxcar

gary laakso
 

A very distinctive boxcar and a very finer build, paint and weathering job.  The joys of working under a deadline!

Gary Laakso


On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:

Greetings,

I completed Soo Line 133542 last night, just in time for this weekend's Twin Cities Railroad Modeler's Retreat.  It is a Speedwitch K108 Soo Line Sawtooth Single Sheathed Box Car kit, painted with Tru-Color TCP-200 SOO Freight Car Red and weathered with Pan Pastels.  I hope to have one more car completed tomorrow morning.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
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Soo Line boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Greetings,

I completed Soo Line 133542 last night, just in time for this weekend's Twin Cities Railroad Modeler's Retreat.  It is a Speedwitch K108 Soo Line Sawtooth Single Sheathed Box Car kit, painted with Tru-Color TCP-200 SOO Freight Car Red and weathered with Pan Pastels.  I hope to have one more car completed tomorrow morning.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN


Re: Scratch building FGEX car sides.

Jim Hayes
 

Scott, sounds interesting. Can you share a copy of the handout or point me to where it can be found?

JimH

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:28 PM Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:

I have always used .040” styrene for scratchbuilding freight cars. You can get Evergreen directly from their website:

 

https://evergreenscalemodels.com/

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Scratch building FGEX car sides.

 

Some time ago Ted did a kitbash clinic and one of the cars was an FGEX reefer with unique steel sides and fishbelly floor.  I was going to take a swing at it as I am a reefer-aholic.  What is the common thickness styrene to use for the sides?  Unfortunately, my local Hobbytown closed so I either have to ebay it or do a pretty good drive to get some.  I would like to make one as a pattern then resin cast the two sides from there.  I have the Tichy ends, Intermountain car to harvest a roof and will order the Accurail 40ft fishbelly floor.  I got some FGEX decals from Ted at Chicago or Collinsville I am not sure which.  I did manage to get the last gallon container of real MEK my Lowes had.  I got some scribers from tamiya and UMM-USA and archer rivets since there are so many.  Should be pretty fun project.  I only have the two photos that are in Ted's presentation but the are nice side shots.

Thanks,
Scott McDonakd


Re: C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:41 AM, Benjamin Scanlon wrote:
I am looking at the indented - or is it inverse - end on these cars, and wondering if there is any kind of a diagram or drawing showing the pattern of pressings, without tackbboards, brake and ladder details?  
Ben,

Are these the cars with the Murphy corrugated ends?

Dennis Storzek


Re: Scratch building FGEX car sides.

Jack Burgess
 

I have always used .040” styrene for scratchbuilding freight cars. You can get Evergreen directly from their website:

 

https://evergreenscalemodels.com/

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Scratch building FGEX car sides.

 

Some time ago Ted did a kitbash clinic and one of the cars was an FGEX reefer with unique steel sides and fishbelly floor.  I was going to take a swing at it as I am a reefer-aholic.  What is the common thickness styrene to use for the sides?  Unfortunately, my local Hobbytown closed so I either have to ebay it or do a pretty good drive to get some.  I would like to make one as a pattern then resin cast the two sides from there.  I have the Tichy ends, Intermountain car to harvest a roof and will order the Accurail 40ft fishbelly floor.  I got some FGEX decals from Ted at Chicago or Collinsville I am not sure which.  I did manage to get the last gallon container of real MEK my Lowes had.  I got some scribers from tamiya and UMM-USA and archer rivets since there are so many.  Should be pretty fun project.  I only have the two photos that are in Ted's presentation but the are nice side shots.

Thanks,
Scott McDonakd


Scratch building FGEX car sides.

Scott
 

Some time ago Ted did a kitbash clinic and one of the cars was an FGEX reefer with unique steel sides and fishbelly floor.  I was going to take a swing at it as I am a reefer-aholic.  What is the common thickness styrene to use for the sides?  Unfortunately, my local Hobbytown closed so I either have to ebay it or do a pretty good drive to get some.  I would like to make one as a pattern then resin cast the two sides from there.  I have the Tichy ends, Intermountain car to harvest a roof and will order the Accurail 40ft fishbelly floor.  I got some FGEX decals from Ted at Chicago or Collinsville I am not sure which.  I did manage to get the last gallon container of real MEK my Lowes had.  I got some scribers from tamiya and UMM-USA and archer rivets since there are so many.  Should be pretty fun project.  I only have the two photos that are in Ted's presentation but the are nice side shots.

Thanks,
Scott McDonakd


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR G22 Gondola With Containers

Nelson Moyer
 

I recently ordered eight containers from English to model the G22 load. Containers are nice, but expensive.

Nelson

On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Bob;

 

It is a nice photo originally taken by PRR, in that it shows a “non-upgraded” G22 (not G22B), capable of transporting only 8 HB1, not the twelve carried in the G22B.  The trucks are 70-ton trucks, not 100-ton.  The Hopper Bottom (HB) containers are the first of their kind on the PRR, which went on to design or purchase many more for this service, chiefly cement at first.  This broadened in later years to include powdered lime, powdered dolomite, and other commodities which were needed unloaded in numerous locations within a facility, like a building site or steel mill.  You can clearly see the container blocking in this shot.

 

Thanks for sharing with the Group!

 

Elden

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:11 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR G22 Gondola With Containers

 

Photo: PRR Gondola With Containers

Blockedhttps://digital.hagley.org/PRR_19375

Caption: "G22 gondola car #352091, loaded with HB1 containers"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR G22 Gondola With Containers

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bob;

 

It is a nice photo originally taken by PRR, in that it shows a “non-upgraded” G22 (not G22B), capable of transporting only 8 HB1, not the twelve carried in the G22B.  The trucks are 70-ton trucks, not 100-ton.  The Hopper Bottom (HB) containers are the first of their kind on the PRR, which went on to design or purchase many more for this service, chiefly cement at first.  This broadened in later years to include powdered lime, powdered dolomite, and other commodities which were needed unloaded in numerous locations within a facility, like a building site or steel mill.  You can clearly see the container blocking in this shot.

 

Thanks for sharing with the Group!

 

Elden

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:11 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR G22 Gondola With Containers

 

Photo: PRR Gondola With Containers

Blockedhttps://digital.hagley.org/PRR_19375

Caption: "G22 gondola car #352091, loaded with HB1 containers"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR G22 Gondola With Containers

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Gondola With Containers

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_19375

Caption: "G22 gondola car #352091, loaded with HB1 containers"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service

Thomas Klosterman
 

In the 50's, there was dedicated covered hopper service for soda ash from the Pittsburg Plate Glass factory in Barberton, Ohio. The factory was started as Columbia Chemical and was the site of the first commercial use of the Solvay Process to make this product. The cars were stenciled "Return to Barberton, Ohio when empty." Do not recall if the apostrophe was in this stencil or not.


C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Hi

I am looking at the indented - or is it inverse - end on these cars, and wondering if there is any kind of a diagram or drawing showing the pattern of pressings, without tackbboards, brake and ladder details?  

It might help me in making a master for TT scale. 
--
Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


Re: Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

Tim O'Connor
 

SOME of the SP B-50-27 box cars had the earlier ends without the extra thin rib at the top.

I've enclosed two photos to show this - SP 100303 and 100441. Evidently the ends changed during
the construction period.

The B-50-27 had a 10-0 IH body with 6' door and 10 panel sides - For that you will need
the Intermountain 1937 AAR body (which has a blank space for the car end).

The WM 29000 cars had 7 foot doors. No plastic body.
The B&O M-56 had 8 foot doors. No plastic body.
The DL&W cars had the earlier ends.
The GN 11000 series had the earlier ends.

=================================

On 3/10/2020 11:15 PM, Randy Hammill wrote:
Those look like Improved Dreadnaught Ends for 10’0” IH cars. They have been described as having rolling pin shaped corrugations and a stiffening rib at the top.

B&O 285000-285999
D&M 3000-3099
DL&W 10000-10039, 52500-53259
GN 11375-11874, 18000-20499
M&StL 4000-5398
NMSX 5200-5201
SP 100000-109099
SP&S 13000-13499
SSW 33850-33949
T&NO 58500-62249
WM 29001-29300

 All the info you’d want in RPCyc 8.

 Randy
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


B&O M-56 (was Re: Help Identifying Boxcar Ends)

Tim O'Connor
 

Is there a plastic 10-0 IH AAR box car body out there with 10 panel sides and 8 foot doors?

That would be the body to use for the M-56.

==============================================

On 3/11/2020 12:04 AM, Randy Hammill wrote:
The B&O M-56 cars were built in May ‘52 with 10-panel sides, 8’ 3/5/5 Youngstown doors (counting corrugations). They had diagonal panel roofs and Duryea underframes, Champion-Peacock handbrakes and US Gypsum running boards.

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

I am aware of three Improved Dreadnaught Ends made by Intermountain for their 10'0" IH box cars. All three have pins on the backsides to place into IM's 10'0" box cars, including their '37 AAR car

IM tooled up their only one of the three ends with poling pockets for their NYC "Pacemaker" cars. This was a "thinless" end (3/4 IDE) Some SP cars used these ends.
IM did another "thinless" end, without poling pockets
IM made one end with a "thin" top ridge. (thin+3/4 IDE) This was the standard end for their 12-panel box car.

The pictures are in descending order


-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




I believe those are the Intermountain ends that were designed for the '12-panel' 40' boxcar.  The spotting feature are those holes across the middle rib, which were intended for use with the (after our era) crossover handrail.  Intermountain has produced a bajillion RTR versions of this car.  Then they discovered that the same ends were appropriate for the 10-panel 10'0" car that they conveniently already had all the other parts for.  One group of these cars not mentioned below is C&O 17000-17999, which I remember because I'd bought a set of these ends and was almost ready to kitbash one when the RTR version was announced.

Ron Merrick


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service

mopacfirst
 

Am I missing something?  I saw this post when it first appeared, and meant to print the photo but didn't.  Today the paper clip icon is still there, but the photo seems to be AWOL.

Ron Merrick


Re: Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

mopacfirst
 

I believe those are the Intermountain ends that were designed for the '12-panel' 40' boxcar.  The spotting feature are those holes across the middle rib, which were intended for use with the (after our era) crossover handrail.  Intermountain has produced a bajillion RTR versions of this car.  Then they discovered that the same ends were appropriate for the 10-panel 10'0" car that they conveniently already had all the other parts for.  One group of these cars not mentioned below is C&O 17000-17999, which I remember because I'd bought a set of these ends and was almost ready to kitbash one when the RTR version was announced.

Ron Merrick


Re: RPM updates

Eric Hansmann
 

The St Louis meet is a great RPM gathering, but there are a several on the calendar before the St Louis event. The Railroad Modelers Retreat in Minnesota has been growing. The Toronto RPM, RPM Valley Forge, Savannah RPM, Western Prototype Modelers Meet, Central Ohio RPM, Bridgetown (OR) RPM, New England/Northeast RPM, and the Maritime Prototype Modellers meet are all scheduled in the months before St Louis. Many of these may be closer to home for list members.

 

Check the calendar and the dates and make plans to attend.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/rpm-event-calendar/

 

 

I attended my first RPM event in 2001 and it changed my perspective on modeling. I’ve been a regular attendee ever since.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:48 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates

 


FYI - see Eric Hansmann's link below

It looks like the "Naperville - Lisle - Chicagoland" RPM meet may not happen this year
in October as it has for the past 26 years or so.

The St Louis RPM appears to still be "on". I guess if it has to be cancelled to stop the
spread of the virus, we'll hear about it. This is the official link

http://www.icgdecals.com/stlrpm/

Personally, I love the St Louis meet. A huge diversity of models and skills on display
and just a ton of people to share with. I had a blast there last summer.

Tim O'Connor

========================

On 3/11/2020 9:37 AM, Eric Hansmann wrote:

An RPM update has been posted to the Resin Car Works blog. The main message concerns RPM Chicagoland.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/rpm-updates-2/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Alcohol

Bob Chaparro
 

The 99% alcohol I mentioned is isopropyl alcohol. At that concentration it is used to clean electronic parts and circuit boards.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: RPM updates

Tim O'Connor
 


FYI - see Eric Hansmann's link below

It looks like the "Naperville - Lisle - Chicagoland" RPM meet may not happen this year
in October as it has for the past 26 years or so.

The St Louis RPM appears to still be "on". I guess if it has to be cancelled to stop the
spread of the virus, we'll hear about it. This is the official link

http://www.icgdecals.com/stlrpm/

Personally, I love the St Louis meet. A huge diversity of models and skills on display
and just a ton of people to share with. I had a blast there last summer.

Tim O'Connor

========================

On 3/11/2020 9:37 AM, Eric Hansmann wrote:

An RPM update has been posted to the Resin Car Works blog. The main message concerns RPM Chicagoland.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/rpm-updates-2/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Randy;

 

How are they different from the ends EJ&E had on their 10’IH cars?  Or the B&LE cars?

 

And why have NONE of these been done as plastic kits?

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Hammill
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:05 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

 

The B&O M-56 cars were built in May ‘52 with 10-panel sides, 8’ 3/5/5 Youngstown doors (counting corrugations). They had diagonal panel roofs and Duryea underframes, Champion-Peacock handbrakes and US Gypsum running boards. 

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
Blockedhttp://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
Blockedhttp://newbritainstation.com