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Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

Bill McClure
 

Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

Bill


Re: Distinctive Flat Car Toothpicks Timber Load

Tim O'Connor
 


the car number looks like NP 697xx which would make it a 41 foot flat car



On 5/18/2020 1:23 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

More Toothpicks

A 1919 postcard photo from the Washington State Historical Society:

http://www.washingtonhistory.org/imu/api/file/5805

Description:

Lithograph colored promotional post card showing three large timbers on two flat cars, 1919. Labeled, "Washington Tooth Picks."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: C&O MW Photos

Bill McClure
 

I, too, spent a fair amount of time photographing C&O MOW equipment for the same reasons Garth mentioned. I must confess I trespassed many, many times, including over and under certain cars to fuel my modeling interests.

Here is a link to a gallery on my website with C&O MOW cars based on steam era boxcars:


Feel free to download any for personal uses, but please respect the copyright and do not use for commercial purposes without permission.

Bill


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

O Fenton Wells
 

Jim I also received a decal order from him last week 
Fenton 


On May 18, 2020, at 10:57 PM, James Lackner <gp40p2@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

James Lackner
 

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner


Re: C&O MW Photos

mofwcaboose <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

All too familiar a situation, in spite of more people thinking that anything having to do with railroads is worth a fortune.

I have two brothers; the younger  knows to a penny what an old snare drum is worth, but is totally unable to conceive  of the value of anything having to do with a railroad. The older has a somewhat better idea, but still would not know what to do in the event of my demise.

The situation is somewhat exacerbated because my negative collection is mostly MofW and cabooses, which few railfans and historians care about.

You should ask your sweetheart: "If these negatives were five-dollar bills, would you throw  them away?"

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL


-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos

Bob,

I've considered that. My C&O/CSX negatives number over 500, plus around 200 for the Buckingham Branch Railroad (which I'm sure they would want), and more for lines associated with the C&O: Nelson & Albemarle, Shenandoah Valley, Rock Ten Paper, Shepherd Grain . . . Ouch! Someday they're going to get a CD, which should have the ID info attached to each image. First I owe their President an article on the Nelson & Albemarle which I wrote before I had health issues, but have never gotten back to finishing the photos.

My push right now is to get all my negatives scanned up and Photoshopped. I've nearly finished most of my binders including all the Virginia stuff since I moved to Charlottesville. The two big ones binders from California going back to the 1960s are maybe half done, but that still leaves maybe 2,000 images to work up.

Before I die, I hope to send all my stuff to various museums, since my sweetheart says when I go, it all goes too . . . right into the trash.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


Re: refrigerator car ice hatches

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi Garth,

     The hatches were, for the most part, always in the same position on the reefers, right where the 
lateral roof walks were on a box car. So why does it make any difference which direction the ice hatches 
opened toward. The only icing machine I've ever seen was that f the Boston & Maine at the Mechanicville,
NY yard while it was still there 50 years ago. As I recall without trying to find my photos this machine had
its own set of rails straddling a single rack for the reefers. The machine would roll into position above the 
first car, four chutes were brought down into the mouths of the open ice bunkers and they were filled with
the required amount of ice. The chutes were then lifted clear of the top of the car before the machine moved 
along to the next car. Thus it didn't matter which way the hatch opened. Frankly I often wondered why the
didn't all open toward the center of the roof except that a car so equipped probably would not get enough
ventilation when needed, that way. Now,  if you are refering to Santa Fe cars with the Bohn Ventilation 
system that may be a horse of another color that I know noting about.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

mark_landgraf
 

Joe 

As it turns out, L&N, and several others, seemed to like 20 panel fishbelly  gons. The early batches, one for L&N 25000-25299, and another for NC&StL 41000-41025 that were re# L&N 26200-26224, and were built by Pressed Steel Car in 1948 and 1949 respectively. They also made the same cars for Sou, CNW, WM, and SAL, also in 1948 and 1949. 

The newer L&N gons appear to all have been made by Greenville Steel Car in 1956, 1958 and 1965. 
Order 675  LN 26000
Order 718  LN 38900
Order 863. LN 25900

So which batch are you looking for?
Mark


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:40 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Thanks all!   The three that I have received will get him to decalling his car.  Thanks a bunch for your help
Joe Binish 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:52 PM mark_landgraf via groups.io <mark_landgraf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Joe

Can you identify cars manufacturer, when it was built, or other rrs that had the same car. Road numbers would be helpful too.  Fishbelly frame and or sides? What is the side panel count?

I have a lot photos but the first sort is by manufacturer. 

Mark Landgraf


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Hi all, 
Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet


Thx,
Joe Binish
New Hope MN


Re: Distinctive Flat Car Toothpicks Timber Load

Jim Sabol
 

Those were typically four foot square or odd sizes like 38” square.  In the racially insensitive nomenclature of the time, they were called “Jap Squares,” for re-sawing by the Japanese using their own system of construction measurements and techniques.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

Joseph
 

Thanks all!   The three that I have received will get him to decalling his car.  Thanks a bunch for your help
Joe Binish 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:52 PM mark_landgraf via groups.io <mark_landgraf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Joe

Can you identify cars manufacturer, when it was built, or other rrs that had the same car. Road numbers would be helpful too.  Fishbelly frame and or sides? What is the side panel count?

I have a lot photos but the first sort is by manufacturer. 

Mark Landgraf


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Hi all, 
Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet


Thx,
Joe Binish
New Hope MN


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

Steven D Johnson
 

Joe,

 

Attached are two Greenville Steel Car Co. builder images of L&N 26000, part of L&N series 26000-26199, built in 1956.

 

Steve Johnson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

 

Hi all, 

Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet

 

 

Thx,

Joe Binish

New Hope MN


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

Joseph
 

Mark, 
This guy is not like us- he doesn’t know that stuff....he has the 65 ft kit and wants to get close
Thx
Joe Binish

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:52 PM mark_landgraf via groups.io <mark_landgraf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Joe

Can you identify cars manufacturer, when it was built, or other rrs that had the same car. Road numbers would be helpful too.  Fishbelly frame and or sides? What is the side panel count?

I have a lot photos but the first sort is by manufacturer. 

Mark Landgraf


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Hi all, 
Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet


Thx,
Joe Binish
New Hope MN


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

Douglas Harding
 

Joe here is one from 1966. Not the 50s, but it appears the car dates from that era or earlier.

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

 

Hi all, 

Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet

 

 

Thx,

Joe Binish

New Hope MN


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

Bill Welch
 

Bob's Photo has a Col. Chet McCoid photo of L&N #25158 in service. I had a modeling article in the L&N's Historical Society magazine 2-3 years ago that is probably still available from them. Speedwitch has Resin ends and decals for modeling w/Athearn model.

Bill Welch


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

mark_landgraf
 

Joe

Can you identify cars manufacturer, when it was built, or other rrs that had the same car. Road numbers would be helpful too.  Fishbelly frame and or sides? What is the side panel count?

I have a lot photos but the first sort is by manufacturer. 

Mark Landgraf


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Hi all, 
Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet


Thx,
Joe Binish
New Hope MN


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

Clark Propst
 

Can you elaborate on the weathering of the SP&S car? Really nice.
CW Propst


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

James Brewer
 

Bob,

Great work...love the weathering.

Jim Brewer


Re: refrigerator car ice hatches

Bob Chaparro
 

Santa Fe only rebuilt part of the fleet to revise the hatch cover openings and that was done, as I recall, only when the cars were generally rebuilt or upgraded. I do not believe there was any program dedicated to just reconfiguring the hatch covers.
I have photos of cars with their original hatch cover configurations and the large circular herald paint scheme that was initiated in 1959. And these include photos of such cars retired and recycled as sheds in the 1970s, twenty years after the advent of mechanical icing machines.
Attached are photos of cars with their original hatch cover configurations being iced at San Bernardino, Bakersfield and Fresno in the mid-1950s. 
Bob Chaparro
Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

O Fenton Wells
 

Excellent Bob, they look good a good twofer
Fenton

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:49 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Nice cars, Bob!

 

Love the weathering!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:03 PM
To: STMFC <main@realSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

 

A two-fer this time. C&BT upgrade projects #4 and #5, WP and SP&S boxcars -- 1944 AAR C&BT carbodies upgraded with contemporary detail parts. Both will be a long way from home on my midwestern-theme layout.

 

WP car details include a Yarmouth Morton runningboard, Kadee ladders/grabs/Ajax handbrake, and Kato ASF A-3 trucks. Decals are Champ. With the Champ set's incorrect build date (51 vs. 47), I elected to keep the car fresh and unweathered (although maybe I should have weathered out that bad build date!). Plus -- I really like that classy silver lettering and hated to dirty it up. 

 

The SP&S car has a Yarmouth Apex runningboard, Tichy 8/8 ladders, Kadee grabs and Ajax brakewheel, and Kato A-3's. Decals are Microscale. Wish I could have done the car in those big SP&S letters, but by the time they came in, steam was pretty much gone on my roads. Weathering is Greg Martin's Post-It technique with some Prismacolor pencil highlighting. 

 

One more to go....

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman



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Re: Distinctive Flat Car Toothpicks Timber Load

Brian Termunde
 


Rob;
I 'think' it's a Northern Pacific car based on the car's lettering.

And Bob, Thank you for yet another gem!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
***************

 Robert Kirkham
10:26am   

Interesting – I’ve seen other loads with that kind of caption.  Kind of surprising that the surface of the timbers look like they were finished with an adze, rather than through a saw.  I cant read the reporting marks on the flat cars.

 

Rob

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