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Re: Best Model Trucks for B&O M-55 Boxcars

Dave Parker
 

Bruce:

They are planked, have Barber Lateral Motion, and the end of the truck bolster is a dead ringer for the Tahoe x09.  Sideframe is a little different, but it looks like a decent match to my eye.



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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

Re: SHPX ORER help needed

Aley, Jeff A
 

Jim,

 

               This is exactly what I needed.  Thanks for taking the trouble to scan it for me!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Brewer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SHPX ORER help needed

 

Jeff,

I hope this helps; difficult to get the book flat enough on the scanner.

Jim Brewer

Best Model Trucks for B&O M-55 Boxcars

Bruce Griffin
 

Friends,

Any thoughts on the best HO scale trucks to match the ones in the attached photos? Thank you.

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 
Re: My latest Covid build

A&Y Dave in MD
 

I agree, the weathering is great--doesn't takeaway from the detail but makes it look a lot less like a model.

Dave

Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 6:27:55 PM, you wrote:


 Southern covered hopper by F&C .  Light weathering as the car was 1951 and the era is about that time



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David Bott

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David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34
Re: Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks for the update, Dick. I'm relieved that the only issues have to do with the brake system, which is easy to fix.

Nelson Moyer

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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:29 PM
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Cc: Steve Hile <shile@mindspring.com>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers


Well, I received my samples of these reefers and was quite relieved to see that they used my new artwork on all the models. Several people, including myself, were making judgements about the models based on the photos in the InterMountain advertising flyer, without noticing that the photos were NOT of car numbers in this latest run.

So, the lettering is perfect (yeah, I did the artwork). The colors are just fine. The lettering can be matched with the Microscale 2-sheet set 87-501, for those wishing to change the car numbers or reweigh dates or repack dates or anything else. The -21s have fan control plates. The all orange-sided 1953-era car uses Terry’s side with the top facia board as part of the side. The assembly is very clean. Any thoughts of stripping these cars is lunacy, in my opinion.

Now the bad news, which you already know. The brake system has several issues and mistakes. Steve Hile is working on a presentation to show how to fix most things, and I am assisting him. That should be ready in a few days. I am also working on a SmugMug gallery with prototype data, and I’ll announce that soon, when I feel more confident of what I say and have more images.

So overall, these are fine and important cars to add to a steam era freight car roster.


Stay Safe & Healthy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA
Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers

Dick Harley
 

Well, I received my samples of these reefers and was quite relieved to see that they used my new artwork on all the models. Several people, including myself, were making judgements about the models based on the photos in the InterMountain advertising flyer, without noticing that the photos were NOT of car numbers in this latest run.

So, the lettering is perfect (yeah, I did the artwork). The colors are just fine. The lettering can be matched with the Microscale 2-sheet set 87-501, for those wishing to change the car numbers or reweigh dates or repack dates or anything else. The -21s have fan control plates. The all orange-sided 1953-era car uses Terry’s side with the top facia board as part of the side. The assembly is very clean. Any thoughts of stripping these cars is lunacy, in my opinion.

Now the bad news, which you already know. The brake system has several issues and mistakes. Steve Hile is working on a presentation to show how to fix most things, and I am assisting him. That should be ready in a few days. I am also working on a SmugMug gallery with prototype data, and I’ll announce that soon, when I feel more confident of what I say and have more images.

So overall, these are fine and important cars to add to a steam era freight car roster.


Stay Safe & Healthy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA
Re: My latest Covid build

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Jim, appreciate that.


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:
Fenton,

I, too, am impressed with the build of this car. Very sharp looking.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 7:11:33 PM EDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:


I agree with Todd, Fenton, that is a very nice looking car.  I have to ask, though, there have been some kvetching about the size of the rivet recently.  Is there any thought that the rivets may be a bit large?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My latest Covid build

 

Fenton -

That's a right nice looking car!  Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise.  The lettering says they were used for cement.  Were they used for other commodities?

Todd Sullivan



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: ID needed

erieblt2
 

Some produce didn’t need icing-just air flow. Potatoes, and I believe onions among the produce were so shipped. Were some (uninsulated) cars used for the brief(heavy) potato runs(seed potatoes in the spring, product in the fall)? Those cars could be used for other purposes the rest of the year. ACL ‘Watermellon’ (ventilated)cars had barred doors, and regular doors for other freight. The insulation, bunkers, etc. would use up a lot of space. Does anyone know if they had ‘ventilated’ box cars? Respectfully, Bill S.


On May 20, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


So the car was basically a SS car with an extra layer of sheathing INSIDE sandwiching the insulation? That ought to really cut down the capacity.

An outside braced reefer was probably a limited design car I assume?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 04:54:50 PM CDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:50 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed
 
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1

Re: My latest Covid build

James E Kubanick
 

Fenton,

I, too, am impressed with the build of this car. Very sharp looking.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 7:11:33 PM EDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


I agree with Todd, Fenton, that is a very nice looking car.  I have to ask, though, there have been some kvetching about the size of the rivet recently.  Is there any thought that the rivets may be a bit large?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My latest Covid build

 

Fenton -

That's a right nice looking car!  Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise.  The lettering says they were used for cement.  Were they used for other commodities?

Todd Sullivan

Re: SHPX ORER help needed

James Brewer
 

Jeff,

I hope this helps; difficult to get the book flat enough on the scanner.

Jim Brewer
Re: My latest Covid build

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I agree with Todd, Fenton, that is a very nice looking car.  I have to ask, though, there have been some kvetching about the size of the rivet recently.  Is there any thought that the rivets may be a bit large?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My latest Covid build

 

Fenton -

That's a right nice looking car!  Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise.  The lettering says they were used for cement.  Were they used for other commodities?

Todd Sullivan

Re: Intermountain wheelsets for sale.

Brian Carlson
 

Wheels have tentatively sold pending payment.

Brian J. Carlson

On May 20, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have excess intermountain HO wheelsets

2 packs of 33” high detail wheels. Code 110 tread. $12 each

100 count HO 33” bulk count code 110 wheels. $60. (Dealer told me these were code 88. They are not. Box was opened and I saw they were code 110)

Shipping USPS priority mail. Buy all three. Free shipping.

Contact me OFF LIST at prrk41361 at yahoo dot com if interested.

Brian J. Carlson


Re: My latest Covid build

Lester Breuer
 

Excellent build Fenton.
Lester Breuer
Re: My latest Covid build

Todd Sullivan
 

Fenton -

That's a right nice looking car!  Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise.  The lettering says they were used for cement.  Were they used for other commodities?

Todd Sullivan
My latest Covid build

O Fenton Wells
 

Southern covered hopper by F&C .  Light weathering as the car was 1951 and the era is about that time
Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

John Barry
 

The line must be clearer in my Oct 44 edition.  As Ben stated, the base kit is off, but as a stand in, it has a basis in reality in that it is at least the same type and configuration of car, albeit with more modern roof and ends.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 12:52:55 PM EDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:


Schuyler,

I also found it hard to read that line in my ORER.  Guess I need new glasses, LOL!  I will do that as soon as we get to the point with the corona virus where I feel comfortable being close to an optician.  Hope it's in the next couple of years! 

Todd Sullivan

Re: ID needed

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

So the car was basically a SS car with an extra layer of sheathing INSIDE sandwiching the insulation? That ought to really cut down the capacity.

An outside braced reefer was probably a limited design car I assume?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 04:54:50 PM CDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed
 
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1

Re: ID needed

Bruce Smith
 

Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed
 
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1

ID needed

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1
Re: TNM hopper car suitable model

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Nathan,

Roundhouse made a similar model but it had a variety of problems such as the enter outlet bay pointed in the wrong direction relative to the B end and minimal detailing.  The Atlas model is much better, and probably close to the T-NM prototype.  I have neither model, so I can't measure and compare them to the diagram.  Perhaps someone else can do that.

Todd Sullivan
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