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Trucks under PS 50' Boxcars in the early '50.

George Courtney
 

Which would be more common in the 1952-58 for trucks under PS 50' Boxcars, 50 ton or 100 ton?

Thanks if you can help,
George Courtney


Photographer Question

Gene Semon
 

Gentlemen,



Does anyone know or have any contact information for a photographer Don
McCartney?



Thanks,



Gene Semon


Re: [SPAM] La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Andy Cich
 

"My question is this: Does anyone out there have a photo of 1001 or 1002
that they could share with the Group?"


See page 44 of Kaminski's Pullman-Standard Freight Cars book for a builders
photo of LS&BC 1001.

The LS&BC car appears to be a carbon copy of the Rock Island 141000 Series
box cars. Sunshine offers this car in kit 37.1. So all you have to do is
come up with decals and you can model the LS&BC car.


Andy Cich


Re: La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

rwitt_2000
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Steve Vallee wrote:

Dear Group...

I found this tidbit on page 62 of the October, 1952 issue of
Railroad Magazine:


Q)...I saw a boxcar lettered La Salle & Bureau county Railroad in a
B&O freight. what information do you have on this railroad?---Harold
Buckley, 216 Leighton Ave, Silver Spring, Maryland.

A)...Chartered August 29, 1890, under the laws of Illinois, this road
was built in 1892 and opened in October, 1893. It is operated by the
Matthiessen & Hegeler Zinc Company as a switching property. This
railroad is operated for freight service only, extending from La Salle,
Illinois northwestward to Ladd, with a total trackage of 15 miles.
Connections are made with the Illinois Central at Midway; the Chicago,
Burlington & Quincy at Hegeler; the Chicago & North Western at La Salle
Junction, and with the Illinois Division of the New York Central at
Ladd.

The line is standard gage, with 80-, 90- and 100-lb. rail. Equipment
consists of three locomotives, (one propane-electric and two
diesel-electric road switcher units), and two 40-foot, 6-inch, 50-ton
boxcars, numbered 1001 and 1002. These freight cars are used in
interchange service. Connection is made with the Rock Island at La Salle
via the Illinois Central. The road had 19 employees and eight
stockholders. Offices and headquarters are in la Salle.


My question is this: Does anyone out there have a photo of 1001 or
1002 that they could share with the Group?
As Dennis stated one has to love Google ... Nothing for car # 1001 and
1002, but ...

There is this 1950 photo of a car #1100 built "NEW"on the Fallen Flag
site that looks like a PS-1.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-l/lsbc1100naa.jpg

A web site devoted to the LS&BC, states the roster had PS-1 box cars
built in 1947 in series 1100 - 1119.

http://www.trainweb.org/lsbc/rollingstock.html

And after the time frame of this list there are the 277 box cars (PS-1)
"stolen" from the PC ;-).

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: CHAD BOAS WP FLAT CAR

Clark Propst
 

I have a builders photo I can send you if you contact me off list.
Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:


With the new year find the Boas Wp Flat car on the top of my work bench. I had already milled out the
centersill for the top to add weight. I do not have a photo of this car and have the following questions.

1) Does the air hose mount through the end sill or come out below it?

2) Are the grab iron anchors on the ends above or below the hand grabs?

3) Is the retainer valve located on the end sill or to the rear of the step on the side?

Thanks in advance for any help. There are not many WP cars floating around in the South Pacific.

Bill Pardie


Re: Unidentified tank car

Clark Propst
 

Here we go again, to save everyone trouble OFF LIST PLEASE!!

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Shoot it to me Clark.
Fenton

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:17 PM, <cepropst@...> wrote:

**




I took a photo of the model this morning. I'm not going to screw around
waiting for the photo to be approved in the photo files. (this is the only
group I belong to that doesn't allow attachments)
If anyone would like to take an educated guess I'll email the jpeg. Please
contact me off list.
Clark Propst




--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


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Re: Unidentified tank car

O Fenton Wells
 

Shoot it to me Clark.
Fenton

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:17 PM, <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

**




I took a photo of the model this morning. I'm not going to screw around
waiting for the photo to be approved in the photo files. (this is the only
group I belong to that doesn't allow attachments)
If anyone would like to take an educated guess I'll email the jpeg. Please
contact me off list.
Clark Propst




--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@gmail.com


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Re: Unidentified tank car

Clark Propst
 

I took a photo of the model this morning. I'm not going to screw around waiting for the photo to be approved in the photo files. (this is the only group I belong to that doesn't allow attachments)
If anyone would like to take an educated guess I'll email the jpeg. Please contact me off list.
Clark Propst


CHAD BOAS WP FLAT CAR

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

With the new year find the Boas Wp Flat car on the top of my work bench. I had already milled out the
centersill for the top to add weight. I do not have a photo of this car and have the following questions.

1) Does the air hose mount through the end sill or come out below it?

2) Are the grab iron anchors on the ends above or below the hand grabs?

3) Is the retainer valve located on the end sill or to the rear of the step on the side?

Thanks in advance for any help. There are not many WP cars floating around in the South Pacific.

Bill Pardie


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

On 4 Jan 2012 at 12:16, PennsyNut wrote:

The stainless are sharper and last longer, but can
not be sharpened.
Last comment but the stainless kitchen knives "can"
be sharpened. I only ones I know that have a
problem are ceramic but then if returned to maker
they will sharpen them and send them back. In the
case of my SS knives I use a diamond steel and it
seems to work. Stones also work.
I was guessing the surgical knifes were like
modeling knives and just discarded from the handle
and a new blade installed, like exacto.


Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

PennsyNut <pennsynut@...>
 

On 4,01 2012 12:02 PM, Jon Miller wrote:

On 4 Jan 2012 at 11:55, PennsyNut wrote:
Carbon Steel can be resharpened. Stainless can not.
While I don't know much about surgical steel some very, very expensive
kitchen knives are made from stainless steel.
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
Jon
That's what I said. l have both stainless/expensive and carbon steel
knives in my kitchen. The stainless are sharper and last longer, but can
not be sharpened. Carbon steel can stain, must not be wet, but when
slightly dull, can be resharpened. And it's your choice. I chose to try
and use both - in my kitchen. As for model use, I do not have experience.
Morgan Bilbo Ferroequinologist SPF PRRTHS #1204


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

On 4 Jan 2012 at 11:55, PennsyNut wrote:

Carbon Steel can be resharpened. Stainless can not.
While I don't know much about surgical steel some
very, very expensive kitchen knives are made from
stainless steel.

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

PennsyNut <pennsynut@...>
 

On 4,01 2012 9:56 AM, lnbill wrote:

Great post alan. I just bookmarked Cincinnati Surgical as a supplier
for S-M. I notice there is a choice of stainless or carbon steel. Do
you have a preference?
Bill Welch
Bill and Others. FYI
Carbon Steel can be resharpened. Stainless can not. Stainless last
longer. Your choice. Both are equally good at their job. In my kitchen,
I have both kinds of knives. I use them for different purposes. Also,
Carbon Steel must be kept dry. It can tarnish when wet.
Morgan Bilbo Ferroequinologist SPF PRRTHS #1204


Re: Newbie

Randy Hammill
 

Actually, that link won't work anymore, unfortunately. You can go to the new site at:

http://westerfieldmodels.com

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ted Culotta <tculotta@...> wrote:


On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Ted Culotta wrote:


On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Kurt Johnson wrote:

Hi,
I've decided to ease into the prototypical end of model railroading
beginning with Tichy's 50 ton Single Sheathed USRA boxcar. Can anyone
offer any suggestions, as far as improvements or corrections? Any
imput at all would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hello Kurt,

I think that the first thing you need to do is determine which
prototype to model. I would recommend visiting Westerfield's web site.
It won't block access even though you are using a Tichy kit instead
of
Westerfield :-) That shows what most of the prototypes looked like.
Once you make your decision, you need to determine when the model of
the car existed. The details changed over time on many cars and if you
are modeling a car as it existed later in life, the Tichy car may not
get you where you need to be without a great deal of work.
The link would have helped:

http://www.westerfield.biz/

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


La Salle & Bureau County Railroad

Steve Vallee
 

Dear Group...

   I found this tidbit on page 62 of the October, 1952 issue of Railroad Magazine:


 Q)...I saw a boxcar lettered La Salle & Bureau county Railroad in a B&O freight. what information do you have on this railroad?---Harold Buckley, 216 Leighton Ave, Silver Spring, Maryland.

 A)...Chartered August 29, 1890, under the laws of Illinois, this road was built in 1892 and opened in October, 1893. It is operated by the Matthiessen & Hegeler Zinc Company as a switching property. This railroad is operated for freight service only, extending from La Salle, Illinois northwestward to Ladd, with a total trackage of 15 miles. Connections are made with the Illinois Central at Midway; the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy at Hegeler; the Chicago & North Western at La Salle Junction, and with the Illinois Division of the New York Central at Ladd.

  The line is standard gage, with 80-, 90- and 100-lb. rail. Equipment consists of three locomotives, (one propane-electric and two diesel-electric road switcher units), and two 40-foot, 6-inch, 50-ton boxcars, numbered 1001 and 1002. These freight cars are used in interchange service. Connection is made with the Rock Island at La Salle via the Illinois Central. The road had 19 employees and eight stockholders. Offices and headquarters are in la Salle.


  My question is this: Does anyone out there have a photo of 1001 or 1002 that they could share with the Group?

  Steve Vallee




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Re: Is it a TPW 10'IH PS-1? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Caveats: NONE

Thanks, George!

We can use some rebuilt cars.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
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kmelvin1663
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To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Is it a TPW 10'IH PS-1? (UNCLASSIFIED)




Elden and List,

The MEC car is a modified 1932 ARA with an 8 foot door put on by the Maine
Central in the early 1960s, renunbered into 24000 series. Abacus Models has
this variation in their list of future kits, see link:

http://www.abacusmodelworks.com/abacus.3001.pdf
George Melvin

Readfield, Maine

PS....Happy New Year everyone!

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gatwood,
Elden SAW" <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Folks;

Could you take a look at this TP&W box car and tell me what you think
its ancestry is? It looks like a 10'IH early PS-1, blt Apr 1948, with
the rounded end ribs, the notched bolster tabs and all, and a short
Superior door, but I think you know better than I...

http://www.godfatherrails.com/photos/pv.asp?pid=967

There looks like a short series of cars in series 5000 to 5042 that
might be these, but I don't know. The capacity listed doesn't match.
The only other 10'IH cars on the TP&W were a steel sheathed car in
series 1350 - 1352, or some added c.1964 in series 1355-1371. Given
what looks like an original "41" at the end of the original car number, I
don't think it is either.

There's also another car I am curious about on the slide of the PC box car.
It looks like an MEC boxcar being loaded, and I am curious about it, too.
What is that door?

After doing a couple books with John, I am looking forward to
remaining freight car slides from his collection coming to light.

Any thoughts? Thanks,

Elden Gatwood



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Caveats: NONE




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

Bill Welch
 

Great post alan. I just bookmarked Cincinnati Surgical as a supplier for S-M. I notice there is a choice of stainless or carbon steel. Do you have a preference?

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...> wrote:

I switched to Swann-Morton about 10 years ago and have never looked back. (I previously used Exacto handles and blades - I still have one of the chunky handles to take razor saws). I was giving a modelling demonstration at a show, but had turned up without my cutting mat, so had to buy a new one there. The new mat came with a disposable S-M plastic #3 handle and a #11 blade. Tried it and was very impressed by how much more controllable it was compared to my Exactos.

The majority of the time I use the S-M #10A blade (which I find sturdier than the #11) in the #3 handle, but I also have stocks of the #6 and #9, the latter being a useful chisel-type blade for removing surface detail. I do have a #4 handle and assorted blades (#26/18/25) but prefer using the #3 handle.

The 10A blade I buy by the box (of 100), some UK suppliers will allow a 'mix & match' approach to fill a box with 20 x 5 black sub-packs, so my last order was 25 each of #6 and #9 and 50 #10As. I always switch to a new blade for each new project and also when cutting decals (so I usually do a decal a bunch of cars in one go!)

Another useful set of blades are the etched 10 thou stainless steel saw blades from AirWaves - these clip into the S-M #3 handle.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM008 and http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM009

Regards,
________________________________________
Alan Monk ,
London, UK


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Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

talltim10
 

I was going to recommend these too, but I lost mine a while ago and couldn't remember the name. Thanks Alan

Tim David

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...> wrote:

Another useful set of blades are the etched 10 thou stainless steel saw blades from AirWaves - these clip into the S-M #3 handle.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM008 and http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM009

Regards,
________________________________________
Alan Monk ,
London, UK


Re: Scalpel Blades/Handles Suppliers and Best Choices

Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...>
 

I switched to Swann-Morton about 10 years ago and have never looked back. (I previously used Exacto handles and blades - I still have one of the chunky handles to take razor saws). I was giving a modelling demonstration at a show, but had turned up without my cutting mat, so had to buy a new one there. The new mat came with a disposable S-M plastic #3 handle and a #11 blade. Tried it and was very impressed by how much more controllable it was compared to my Exactos.

The majority of the time I use the S-M #10A blade (which I find sturdier than the #11) in the #3 handle, but I also have stocks of the #6 and #9, the latter being a useful chisel-type blade for removing surface detail. I do have a #4 handle and assorted blades (#26/18/25) but prefer using the #3 handle.

The 10A blade I buy by the box (of 100), some UK suppliers will allow a 'mix & match' approach to fill a box with 20 x 5 black sub-packs, so my last order was 25 each of #6 and #9 and 50 #10As. I always switch to a new blade for each new project and also when cutting decals (so I usually do a decal a bunch of cars in one go!)

Another useful set of blades are the etched 10 thou stainless steel saw blades from AirWaves - these clip into the S-M #3 handle.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM008 and http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AEM009

Regards,
________________________________________
Alan Monk ,
London, UK


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Re: Ordnance (was: NKP <> ACY; was: Re: New file uploaded to STMFCþ)

David Sieber
 

Gentlemen,
One small, but critical correction; "Ordinance" means: a local law or regulation; or a religious practice or ritual prescribed by the church - neither of which would be transported by rail.
However, "Ordnance" (two syllables, with no "i" in between) means: military equipment, especially weapons and ammunition; artillery. The most common usage of "ordnance" is for munitions. Still, the Army Ordnance Corps' mission is to support the development, production, acquisition, and sustainment of weapon systems, ammunition, missiles, electronics, and ground mobility material ... As a former Ordnance officer, I had various assignments in ammunition, tank/automotive maintenance, and supply support of weapons systems.
During the steam and transition eras (and now), ammunition was shipped in boxcars (or in gondolas, though I only saw that overseas); other classes of supplies were shipped in the appropriate car (box, tank, etc.) and on flatcars (see RP Cyc 20, AAR rules, and/or military transportability manuals) - especially armored vehicles, howitzers (and other artillery) that couldn't reasonably be driven over-the-road in convoys (particularly stateside!). Navy loads were similar, with some unique loads like a battleship gun barrel spanning two iconic PRR F22 (or Milw equivalent) flats plus an idler; the Army Air Corps/Air Force gave us "bomber boxes" and other interesting cars and cargos.
So please, no freight car loads of municipal ordinances - rail transport of recycle paper and bulk trash came much later than the era of this List. However, yes to ammunition being shipped from a Ordnance Plant to a military base, ammunition depot, etc. (explosive cargos add interesting operational considerations); and to flatcars with military cargo (wheeled or tracked vehicles, such as combat, support, or construction equipment) going out to Army/Marine/etc. units from the Detroit Army Tank Plant in Warren MI (or other manufacturers) - or returning for rebuild(!) - and/or being shipped from one base to another for field training exercises, reallocation transfers, etc., or for overseas deployment. Much more interesting loads.
Sorry, a common error that just struck a chord!
Dave Sieber, (former) CPT OD USA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Allen Reuter wrote: The NKP/GTW/B&O/Wabash all served the Kingsbury Ordinance Plant in La Porte county, Indiana (near US 6 & US 35)

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Harding wrote: There was an ordinance plant at west of Burlington IA, but this was not served by the M&StL And one in Des Moines, again not on the M&StL.

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