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Re: Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

Tony Thompson
 

     Gorgeous model, and a terrific video explanation of much of what went into it. Thanks, Jack.

Tony Thompson




Re: wire source

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Precision Scale has .016 brass wire.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] wire source

 

Clover House has .014" and .016" straightened (slightly tempered) brass wire.
Ed Bommer


Re: wire source

steve_wintner
 

Is .0145" close enough ? ;) Eileen's emporium has all sorts of stuff, e g.  0.37 mm brass wire. Yes, ordering internationally is probably not ideal, but ...

https://eileensemporium.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&product_id=5673&name=brass-straight-wire&Itemid=189&category_pathway=1131

Steve


Re: wire source

Nelson Moyer
 

Makes sense to me. I don’t do resistance soldering, but I have soldered phosphor bronze grab irons to brass brackets for several of the plywood side Sunshine kits, and I’ve soldered several of the YMW ladders, so phosphor bronze solders just fine to brass.

Nelson Moyer

On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


A brass model, for example. I have done soldering on a number of brass models.

Brass to brass solder.


On 1/30/2020 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
Tim, I’m curious about what freight car applications brass would be better than phosphore bronze wire. I’ve built 120+ resin kits with phosphor bronze wire using 0.008, 0.010, 0.0125, 0.015, and 0.020 in. wire sizes, and I prefer phosphor bronze to brass.

Nelson Moyer

On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


Also, contact Des Plaines Hobbies. They stock a huge variety of wire and
tubing in many materials. For certain applications, brass wire may be a better
material than phosphor bronze.

Tim O'Connor



On 1/30/2020 12:25 PM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Larry

Tichy trains have 0.015” phosphor bronze wire in stock.

Paul Doggett


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:19, Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire. No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith
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Re: Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

Jack Burgess
 

I was going to mention that video. Toward the end I talk about the model building for the crane to that point. I will be doing the next YouTube video this Saturday and will have more shots of the model and talk about some painting, etc. It will be released February 22nd.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of qmp211
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

 

Wunnerful, wunnerful, wunnerful!

To see the video details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOr0CRinzM

Great work Jack.

Randy Danniel


Re: Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

Jack Burgess
 

No, that panel did not slide back. I think that it was there (possibly) to get access to the steam boiler for repairs, etc. In photos, it looks like it slipped into a slot on the top and was secured with the bolts at the bottom.

 

As for swinging the boom, his seat was only 3’ for so from the open front of the crane. So he would have probably have enough of a view to know that the area to the left of the boom was clear of obstacles. He might also have a foreman on the ground giving him hand signals.

 

Jack

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Betz
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

 

Jack,
  Great work - as always.
  Did that panel that forms the left wall fold/slide back during operation?
If not - how did the operator see well enough to be able to swing the
boom to the left?  
                                                                                 - Jim


Re: Weathering Couplers

Jim Betz
 

Bob,
  I've used both Floquil and acrylics (usually "craft paints") in a variety
of colors (but always some shade of brown/tuscan/mineral red) and
apply them with a brush.  I do the 'details' such as door hardware,
brake wheels, etc. at the same time and I don't pay much attention
to 'coverage' ... just to whether or not I am getting any paint on the
body of the car.  I use a shade that is 'slightly different' from the
body color of the car to make the details so highlighted "pop" out
from the body/field color of the car ... when I say "pop" I am talking
about "just enough difference (subtle) that the detail part/coupler/
whatever separates itself from the body".  This adds a sort of
"depth" to the overall look of the car.
  I also add a fairly heavy coat of grime to the underside of the
car and lesser amount to the roof.  Dust/grime along the lower
part of the sides is something I do "sometimes but not always".
  Typically, I do the details before my final application of some
sort of VERY light "blending color" ... this can be grime, dust,
dull coat, weathered black, etc. and is very lightly applied so
that unless you look for it you don't notice it.
  I pay attention to each car "one at a time" in order to get them
to "look all the same when a yard is looked at from a distance -
but if you focus on the individual cars in a cut they aren't all the
same.  One of the keys to that is to mix up a unique batch of
weathering colors for each weathering session and even vary
them during the session (especially in how much is applied to
which cars/details).
  
  The end result is a car that looks right (to -my- eye).  Your
methods may be different - these are mine.
                                                                             - Jim


Re: wire source

Tim O'Connor
 

A brass model, for example. I have done soldering on a number of brass models.

Brass to brass solder.

On 1/30/2020 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
Tim, I’m curious about what freight car applications brass would be better than phosphore bronze wire. I’ve built 120+ resin kits with phosphor bronze wire using 0.008, 0.010, 0.0125, 0.015, and 0.020 in. wire sizes, and I prefer phosphor bronze to brass.

Nelson Moyer

On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


Also, contact Des Plaines Hobbies. They stock a huge variety of wire and
tubing in many materials. For certain applications, brass wire may be a better
material than phosphor bronze.

Tim O'Connor



On 1/30/2020 12:25 PM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Larry

Tichy trains have 0.015” phosphor bronze wire in stock.

Paul Doggett


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:19, Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire. No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith
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Re: Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

qmp211
 

Wunnerful, wunnerful, wunnerful!

To see the video details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOr0CRinzM

Great work Jack.

Randy Danniel


Re: wire source

Nelson Moyer
 

Tim, I’m curious about what freight car applications brass would be better than phosphore bronze wire. I’ve built 120+ resin kits with phosphor bronze wire using 0.008, 0.010, 0.0125, 0.015, and 0.020 in. wire sizes, and I prefer phosphor bronze to brass.

Nelson Moyer

On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


Also, contact Des Plaines Hobbies. They stock a huge variety of wire and
tubing in many materials. For certain applications, brass wire may be a better
material than phosphor bronze.

Tim O'Connor



On 1/30/2020 12:25 PM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Larry

Tichy trains have 0.015” phosphor bronze wire in stock.

Paul Doggett


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:19, Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire. No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith

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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*



Re: ACL low sided gondolas

Paul Doggett
 

Mel

I have googled it and get some information but I now have the Richard Hendrickson article which a great help.

Paul Doggett 


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:29, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


not sure what you are lookimg for but
if you google "acll gondola", you'll be
surprised
:-)
mel perty

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 6:25 AM Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿




Re: Weathering Couplers

Todd Sullivan
 

Bob,

For years I have been painting Kadee standard and semi-scale couplers with Polly-Scale paint, and they work fine as long as you exercise the knuckle 5-8 times after painting and before the paint has dried hard - usually about 5-10 minutes in most cases.  Since Polly-Scale isn't available now, I'll have to experiment with other brands to find a replacement, once my supply runs out.  Painting the couplers did not seem to affect the amount of force needed to couple them up.  I can still gently nose a loco up to a car and have the couplers connect ... unless the car is VERY free-rolling.

Todd Sullivan
Rowlett, TX


Re: wire source

Edward
 

Clover House has .014" and .016" straightened (slightly tempered) brass wire.
Ed Bommer


Re: wire source

Tim O'Connor
 

Also, contact Des Plaines Hobbies. They stock a huge variety of wire and
tubing in many materials. For certain applications, brass wire may be a better
material than phosphor bronze.

Tim O'Connor

On 1/30/2020 12:25 PM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Larry

Tichy trains have 0.015” phosphor bronze wire in stock.

Paul Doggett


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:19, Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire.  No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Yosemite Valley Railroad steam crane 08...

O Fenton Wells
 

Excellent modeling Jack, impressive
Fenton

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:02 PM Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:

As I recall, we decided some time ago that maintenance of way equipment could be shared on this chat list.

 

A number of years ago I began collecting information on this crane and drew detailed plans for it a couple of years ago. I finally started building the model about 6 months ago and finished it today. Attached are three photos of the final model. The frame and basic body were fabricated from .015” sheet brass while the roof, boom, interior details, and a half-dozen other parts were 3D printed. The project was frustrating at times but was a very challenging and enjoyable project.

 

Jack Burgess

 



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Re: ACL low sided gondolas

mel perry
 

not sure what you are lookimg for but
if you google "acll gondola", you'll be
surprised
:-)
mel perty

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 6:25 AM Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿




Re: wire source

Paul Doggett
 

Larry 

Tichy trains have 0.015” phosphor bronze wire in stock.

Paul Doggett 


On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:19, Larry Smith <wooddale@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire.  No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith


Re: ACL low sided gondolas

Paul Doggett
 

Thank you Stephen 

Regards Paul Doggett.



On 30 Jan 2020, at 17:04, James SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:



It is the Seaboard Coast Modeler, vol. 2. The article covers K-6 and K-7 by Richard Hendrickson. I have it stored on my computer if anyone needs it.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ACL low sided gondolas

 


Garth 

 

Thank you it’s the K7 hopefully someone can help with that.

 

Paul Doggett 



On 30 Jan 2020, at 16:07, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:



Paul,

 

I assume that you mean ACL classes K-6 and K-7? If so, see Richard Hendrickson's comprehensive article in the October 2007  (v.1, no.2) issue of SEABOARD-COAST LINE MODELER.

 

I can't find a link to this publication anymore. Maybe somebody else can help with a link, or knows where the issues are archived.

 

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:25 AM Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿



wire source

Larry Smith
 

Does anyone know of a source for Detail Associates .015 brass wire.  No one seems to have it and I need it for a freight car project I'm doing

Larry Smith


Re: Weathering Couplers

Aaron Heaney
 

Bob 

I used the Floquil Rail Brown paint pen. I think Testors makes it now. I just rub it on the coupler not fully coating it that way the black underneath is still partially visible. 

Aaron Heaney 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Date: 1/30/20 11:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Weathering Couplers

Weathering Couplers

I'm seeking suggestions on weathering couplers to get that textured, rusted look without hindering the operation of the coupler.

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA