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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Todd Horton
 

Excuse me, I meant upper left corner. Todd Horton




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From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 4:36:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

 
The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930
fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com

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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Todd Horton
 

What is that "flume" looking thing in the upper right hand corner? Todd Horton




________________________________
From: Brian Ehni <behni@att.net>
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 5:33:58 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

 
The panorama was made by reducing the original posts; you can find those
here:
http://www.shorpy.com/search/node/Duluth+1905

But the road number of that GN car is still illegible:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6924?size=_original

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: Clark Cooper <csc@mchsi.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:53 -0500
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch
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Re: Foobies

George Courtney
 

I like to think of model railroading as a tree. We all grow out of the same roots but we tend to branch off. One branch may be close to ground and provide for a swing, another branch might tower toward the sun and another shade the house. One branch is not better in value than another, but if you choose to be a swing branch then it's better to be close to the ground.

George Courtney


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

earlyrail
 

Posted by: "gary laakso" vasa0vasa@earthlink.net ky123le
Thu May 12, 2011 3:26 pm (PDT)


The 1917 Great Northern Freight Car diagram books shows the car to be a 44 ft stock car, numbers 5500 to 55651 built by H&B in 1898 but the diagram notes that the car was "changed to a stock car at St. Cloud 1906".
This has been discussed on the Earlyrail group.

According to the 1905 ORER
Box & Stock, series 77000-77998 and 79000-79498 both even numbers only
so number 77448 would be correct.
EM Ry is Eastern Minnesota Railway
IL 44-0, IW 8-4 1/4, IH 8-1 1/2
6994 cu ft, 60000 cpy 730 cars in both series.

Howard Garner
modeling 1905 in southern Minnesota


Re: Foobies

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

What is more frustrating (to me!) is when cars are produced that have a fundamental flaw that renders them inaccurate for anything (eg the infamous Tichy tank car).
The infamous Tichy tank car....... Well, I love this model for what it is; I love it because it simply looks great; I love it for what it aspires to be; and I love it especially because something so small and harmless continues to cause so much consternation.... just by existing!

Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Mike Fleming
 

The car number is 77445 or 77448


Mike Fleming
Superintendent, Bluff City Div. SER, NMRA
President Emeritus, Memphis Society of Model Railroaders
Vice President, Memphis Railroad and Trolley Museum Model Railroad Club, a 100% NMRA Member Club

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Brian Ehni <behni@att.net>
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:33:58 -0500

The panorama was made by reducing the original posts; you can find those
here:
http://www.shorpy.com/search/node/Duluth+1905

But the road number of that GN car is still illegible:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6924?size=_original

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: Clark Cooper <csc@mchsi.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:53 -0500
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch
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Re: Foobies

Ed Walters
 

Clark - and isn't that the point of it all? To me the reason to model as accurately as I can is to please myself. I don't care if anyone else likes the result... and similarly I don't expect anyone to care if I approve of their work or not.

Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, cepropst@... wrote:


A lot depends on what we've using our cars for.

I'm not 'contest quality' modeler, 'layout quality' at best. My cars are made to operate on my layout. If I had several members of this group in my ops team I would take their criticism because my models represent the best I could do at the time. Sure, I'd upgrade if information surfaced. But, I don't have any of you guys regularly at my house. The guys that show up don't know and or don't care that much about accuracy. I still feel the need to do the best I can, others are happy with 'close'.
Clark Propst


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

gary laakso
 

The 1917 Great Northern Freight Car diagram books shows the car to be a 44 ft stock car, numbers 5500 to 55651 built by H&B in 1898 but the diagram notes that the car was "changed to a stock car at St. Cloud 1906".

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@earthlink.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Clark Cooper
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 5/12/2011 5:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama



Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch



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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Paul Lyons
 

Bob Witt said

A very nice find.


Folks, this is NOT a new find! We have been all over this panorama in the past!
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: rwitt_2000 <rwitt_2000@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 2:48 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama




Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481
Bill,

A very nice find.

I see at least two reefers lettered "Fruit Growers Express" when the
name was used by Armour.

Bob Witt







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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Richard Townsend
 

For some reason I have it in my mind that the unusual GN car with roof hatches is a barrel car. I have nothing authoritative on the matter, however.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

rwitt_2000
 

Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481
Bill,

A very nice find.

I see at least two reefers lettered "Fruit Growers Express" when the
name was used by Armour.

Bob Witt


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

The panorama was made by reducing the original posts; you can find those
here:
http://www.shorpy.com/search/node/Duluth+1905

But the road number of that GN car is still illegible:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6924?size=_original


Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: Clark Cooper <csc@mchsi.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:53 -0500
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama






Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch








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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Mike Fleming
 

Clark,
Try this link.
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6924?size=_original


Mike Fleming
Superintendent, Bluff City Div. SER, NMRA
President Emeritus, Memphis Society of Model Railroaders
Vice President, Memphis Railroad and Trolley Museum Model Railroad Club, a 100% NMRA Member Club

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Clark Cooper <csc@mchsi.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:53 -0500


Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch


Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

There's another next to Thompson produce; all you can see are the roof
hatches.

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: Clark Cooper <csc@mchsi.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:53 -0500
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Beautiful 1905 Panaorama






Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that
picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted
the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at
floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch








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Re: Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Clark Cooper
 

Thanks Bill.

There's an interesting GN car (can't make out a number) in that picture, halfway left of center, spotted next to the Zenith Paper Co.:

Eight large roof hatches, a band of exterior side sheathing omitted the length of the car, four small access openings along the sides at floor level, and possibly a door on the end.

Anybody know what that car was used for?

-Clark Cooper

On May 12, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch


Beautiful 1905 Panaorama

Bill Welch
 

The following link will take you to an incredible panorama featuring
many early freight cars: www.shorpy.com/node/9481

Enjoy!
Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930
fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com


Re: Accurail 41' gon

Ed Hawkins
 

On May 12, 2011, at 8:08 AM, al_brown03 wrote:

Has anyone a photo of Frisco series 55000-55199? The ORER dimensions
are almost exactly the same as the ACL cars'.
Al,
The sides of the Frisco 55000-55199, built by Mount Vernon Div. of
Pressed Steel Car Co. 1951, had 11 side posts. A photo appears on p151
of the 1953 CBC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: NYC or New Haven 90 ton flat car

Bryan Busséy
 

Bill,

I can't speak to the New York Central cars, but the New Haven's
transformer cars were a shorter than 40 feet in length.

bb

On 5/12/2011 11:54 AM, Bill Lane wrote:

All,

I am looking for photos preferably showing the data etc for this NYC
or New
Haven 90 ton depressed center transformer flat car as show here.
http://www.btsrr.com/bts9209.htm A clear dead side shot would be awesome

Any additional info you may have (roster number range, built dates etc)
would be appreciated as well. I am leaning towards making it New York
Central as the scheme mostly because New Haven decals in S Scale are
probably non-existent. But I could possibly do New Haven from an alphabet
set if needed. If there is a passable HO decal set I would not be that
picky
about it as well. I would just like to get the car done and on the track -
so to speak.

Please reply directly to bill@lanestrains.com
<mailto:bill%40lanestrains.com> <mailto:bill@lanestrians.com
<mailto:bill%40lanestrians.com>>
with what you have.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988

See my finished models at:
<http://www.lanestrains.com/>; http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

Custom Train Parts Design
<http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm>;
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
<http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls>;
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
<http://www.prrths.com/>; http://www.prrths.com
<http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf>;
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Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! <http://www.prslhs.com/>; http://www.prslhs.com
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Re: Foobies

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Jerry Michels wrote:
I believe there was a drawing in Mainline Modeler by Bob Hundman done expressly to show that there was such a car.
Since the drawings for the USRA tank car design (not ever built) were in the Cyc in 1919, Hundman doing a drawing confirmed NOTHING.
What should have happened in the aftermath of the Tichy (then Gould) kit release was articles showing how to correct the minor differences in the model. Hundman could have taken the lead in getting such articles into print. But unfortunately Gould (and Hundman) took the position that it was a widely built car, with "many prototypes," as the kit directions and other materials stated.
My own view is that, in addition to being a superb kit to build, it is a fairly close stand-in for early 1920s AC&F cars, and the underframe in particular (available as a separate kit) can be used for AC&F underframes during succeeding years. No, it's not exact, and no, it was never a physical USRA car, but that doesn't mean it's a total loss.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


NYC or New Haven 90 ton flat car

Bill Lane
 

All,


I am looking for photos preferably showing the data etc for this NYC or New
Haven 90 ton depressed center transformer flat car as show here.
http://www.btsrr.com/bts9209.htm A clear dead side shot would be awesome

Any additional info you may have (roster number range, built dates etc)
would be appreciated as well. I am leaning towards making it New York
Central as the scheme mostly because New Haven decals in S Scale are
probably non-existent. But I could possibly do New Haven from an alphabet
set if needed. If there is a passable HO decal set I would not be that picky
about it as well. I would just like to get the car done and on the track -
so to speak.

Please reply directly to bill@lanestrains.com <mailto:bill@lanestrians.com>
with what you have.







Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988

See my finished models at:
<http://www.lanestrains.com/>; http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

Custom Train Parts Design
<http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm>;
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
<http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls>;
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
<http://www.prrths.com/>; http://www.prrths.com
<http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf>;
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! <http://www.prslhs.com/>; http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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