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Re: 40ft Pratt truss single sheathed boxcar

Charles Morrill
 

I can make out the SP herald and the "T&" before the vertical rib.  I would take it as a T&NO car.



From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 1:26:44 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] 40ft Pratt truss single sheathed boxcar

Hi List Members,
 
The resolution on this image is lacking a bit, but my feeling is that the reporting mark on this 40ft Pratt truss single sheathed boxcar might be T&NO - does anyone have thoughts one way or the other?
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


40ft Pratt truss single sheathed boxcar

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
The resolution on this image is lacking a bit, but my feeling is that the reporting mark on this 40ft Pratt truss single sheathed boxcar might be T&NO - does anyone have thoughts one way or the other?
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Photos: Utah Poultry Producers Cooperative Association Reefers (1928)

Bob Chaparro
 


Re: Flat Black

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 9/1/2020 10:14 AM, Ken Adams wrote:
And Tamiya's Matte Black

 And there's a place on eBay that sells Tamiya's lacquer (flat black among others).  Appears to be real lacquer as I have added from my gallon of lacquer thinner and it didn't gel, just thins down.  Never have seen it in the US.  I have ordered and got half a dozen containers.  It's not cheap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tamiya-Lacquer-Paint-Gloss-82101-82180-LP-1-to-LP-80-10ml-multiple-choice/373084232133?hash=item56dd8d99c5:g:sG4AAOSw76hefAn5

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Flat Black

Ken Adams
 

And Tamiya's Matte Black is good if you do  not need to add decals. Just used some yesterday.
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach, FL has been postponed

Bill J.
 

Thank you, Jeff.  Please put me on the list.

Bill Jolitz


Re: History Blog: Axes From 14th C. Polish Battlefield

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Sep 1, 2020, at 06:00, Spiny Norman wrote:

Shipped in box cars? Or piled up in gons like the dead of Clichy? :)
Sure. Why not?


Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

I believe that those are the ends of cardboard boxes that make up the load being restrained.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

I see the strapping and furring strips. But what about the boards with the indents or holes in them?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Bob Chaparro
 

I see the strapping and furring strips. But what about the boards with the indents or holes in them?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Loading A Fire Truck

Kenneth Montero
 

Brasstrains.com has two copies of this car for sale - factory painted - Crown Custom Imports - for those who want to see a model.

Ken Montero

On 09/01/2020 9:21 AM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:



Brian Shumaker wrote:
"American La France firetruck Co., in Elmira NY? These cars were made, I believe, just for them."

Car (singular).  PRR 59861, Class X30.



Re: Photo: Reading 12343A

Thomas Evans
 

Those trucks look a lot like the ones from the Pressed Steel Car Co. back around 1900.
In any case, they appear to have bolt-on journal boxes & are of a vaguely arch-bar design, which seems quite out of date for 1941.

Tom E.


Re: Photo: Reading 12343A

Robert Allan
 

Looks like the photo was taken at Reading Shops, Reading PA. Lots of other neat cars surrounding it. The trucks on this car are interesting for the era, although as an online car, I suppose adequate.

Thanks for sharing these interesting photos.

Bob Allan
Omaha


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Dennis!

 

Elden gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 10:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 03:00 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

That is one curious car.  Are those tie-downs on the side sill?

No, they are door guides/rollers from Union Metal Products Co. also marketed under the National Box Car Door name. Note the rollers have grooves that giude a flange on the bottom of the door, but it looks like the N&W opted for something more substancial to hold the corners of the door when closed.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

James Brewer
 

From the NWHS archives for the Chicago-Cleveland Climax Radial Roof:



Jim Brewer

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:12 PM David via groups.io <jaydeet2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
> So, a completely??different question from looking at this picture:??
> whose version of radial roof would this be, based upon the visible
> stampings as we see them from the underside?

Climax radial, N&W's favorite in the late 1920s and early 1930s.

David Thompson




Re: Photo: Loading A Fire Truck

Benjamin Hom
 

Brian Shumaker wrote:
"American La France firetruck Co., in Elmira NY? These cars were made, I believe, just for them."

Car (singular).  PRR 59861, Class X30.


Re: History Blog: Axes From 14th C. Polish Battlefield

Craig Zeni
 

Shipped in box cars?  Or piled up in gons like the dead of Clichy?  :)

Craig Zeni
Olde Cary, NC


Re: Photo: Loading A Fire Truck

Brian Shumaker
 

American La France firetruck Co., in Elmira NY? These cars were made, I believe, just for them. This might be unloading somewhere as I see a Western Maryland Freight House in the background and WM didn't go to Elmira.


Re: Photo: Reading 12343A

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

F&C offers a model of these cars: http://fandckits.com/HOFreight/8196.html  Neat trucks, by the way.

Question: Does the service restriction actually mean it was assigned to service from some port to the Hershey factory?

Question: How many cars were in this service?

Question: What were the service dates? F&C suggests 1941-1960, but this sounds kind of fishy, and there is certainly more to this story.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:29 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Reading 12343A
Robert Wanner posted these photos on the Facebook Railroad Images Of Bygone Days site.

He commented, " 'To be used exclusively at Hershey, Pa.' So we have a wooden Cocoa bean boxcar 12343 A, the suffix meaning in special service. No doors so hatchbacks on roof and hopper discharge underneath. Dated 7/41, but not sure that's the Built date. Looks new in photo, but could be rebuilt in Reading Shops. Original covered hopper car? Wooden foot block on rail to prevent drifting for photo shoot. Looks like string of brand new (or rebuilt) coal hopper cars in background. Would make interesting model. Reading Company photos."

Interesting car. Anyone know its background?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


History Blog: Axes From 14th C. Polish Battlefield

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Noble Friends,

Today the History Blog feature discusses two 15th century axe heads found at the site of the 1410 Battle of Grunwald. This is said to have been one of the largest middle ages European battles, and marked the beginning of the end for the Teutonic Knights.

The two axe heads, in remarkable condition, were found by a metal detectorist working under the direction of archaeologists excavating the battlefield: http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/59460 .

For more on the Teutonic Knights, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order . They are still in business, by the way, though now a charitable organization.

The Battle of Grunwald is found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald .

Yours Aye,


Lord Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆



Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 03:00 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
That is one curious car.  Are those tie-downs on the side sill?
No, they are door guides/rollers from Union Metal Products Co. also marketed under the National Box Car Door name. Note the rollers have grooves that giude a flange on the bottom of the door, but it looks like the N&W opted for something more substancial to hold the corners of the door when closed.

Dennis Storzek

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