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Re: REMOVING FACTORY LETTERING
WILLIAM PARDIE
Thanks for the reply Mel. I don't really know how to determine the type of lettering. Bill Pardue Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: mel perry <clipper841@...> Date: 5/12/20 7:37 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] REMOVING FACTORY LETTERING what kind of lettering?, pad printed? dry transfers? decals? :-) mel perry On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:09 AM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:
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Re: Milk cars
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Don, Would you please send photos of the 803-804 cars? Does anyone make an HO model of them? Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 09:08:35 AM CDT, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
That is correct Don. You are refering specifically to GPEX #803 and #804 both of which were rebuilds of earlier wood sheathed milk tank cars. General American used a cover for the two 3,000 gal. tanks each on these two cars that was similar to, but different, from that used by the cars that Borden owned outright. The two GPEX cars were leased to H.P. Hood & Sons thus being seen in service only in New England or as far out of it as the large Hood plant in Eagle Bridge, NY. If someone needs a photo to show the difference between the two Hood cars and the Borden cars I could post photos of the two Hood cars with some guidance as I've had no luck in doing so since the change was made to groups.io. I have both builder's photos and in service photos of the two Hood cars and expect everyone knows what the Borden cars looked like. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: REMOVING FACTORY LETTERING
mel perry
what kind of lettering?, pad printed? dry transfers? decals? :-) mel perry
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:09 AM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:
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Photo: DL&W Gondola 60327
Photo: DL&W Gondola 60327 This is a photo from the Erie Lackawanna E-Mail List Photo Archive: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-05-05-20/C2768.jpg I assume this is a gondola and not a flat car fitted with sides. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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REMOVING FACTORY LETTERING
WILLIAM PARDIE
We have had quite a few posts recently on removing factory lettering from plastic cars. Does anyone have a recommendation for removing lettering from brass cars while preserving the factory paint? Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> Date: 5/12/20 6:41 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers Hi Fred: I would love to see photos id your revamped cars. Bill Parsie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...> Date: 5/12/20 4:54 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers I am now glad I exhibited amazing sloth about ordering these in advance . . .
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred Jansz
Guys,
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Re: 1910 view of a NYC&HR composite gon...
lrkdbn
This was actually a very common car on the NYC Lines-they had some 16000 of them. Some later rebuilt to outside stake cars,last ones in service about 1925.
Larry King
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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Bill Welch
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 09:24 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
I think the key word there Tim is "knowingly." I had no idea you thought so little of me that you think I would do that. Bill Welch
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
WILLIAM PARDIE
Hi Fred: I would love to see photos id your revamped cars. Bill Parsie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...> Date: 5/12/20 4:54 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers I am now glad I exhibited amazing sloth about ordering these in advance . . .
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred Jansz
Guys,
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Nelson Moyer
Very astute! I ordered six now in my hold box at the dealer awaiting imminent arrival of some GP-7s. Intermountain ignores complaints about errors and foobies, so nothing changes. My last three orders of PFE reefers all had different colors of mineral red roofs and ends. At least I know what I’m faced with ahead of time on this order – a paint strip and complete rebuild. That’s my last Intermountain preorder, more pigs in pokes for me.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:54 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
I am now glad I exhibited amazing sloth about ordering these in advance . . .
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Fred Jansz
Guys,
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Goes goes to reinforce that RTR means ready to repair.
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I think I ordered 2 of the reefers myself. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Brian J. Carlson
On May 12, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Schuyler Larrabee
I am now glad I exhibited amazing sloth about ordering these in advance . . .
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred Jansz
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:25 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Guys,
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Re: ID Help With Container Car
For a short while it was also used for locomotive and automotive headlights designed to burn acetylene.
It was used until electric light bulbs and their elements improved enough to survive rough use from the vibrations and shocks encountered. Ed Bommer
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Re: ID Help With Container Car
I remember those toy cannons! I think vinegar or some other liquid was added to set off the reaction.
On 5/12/2020 10:24 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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10' High by 8' Wide Superior Doors
Rick Jesionowski
Is there any source of 8' wide Superior Doors for a 10' IH Boxcar?
If not looks like scratcbulding time. Rick Jesionowski
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Fred Jansz
Guys,
I own six R18,19 & 21 cars of their previous 'Wegmann' runs. ALL of them had severe underframe and brake system problems, wrong heralds and or dates, etc. So during all those years nothing -except the price- has changed so it seems...;-(( Dismantled the underframes and brake systems, mounted new improved parts. Took the decals and paint off (they were kind of mud-ish orange) and repainted/redecaled. Still have to refurbish 4 of them..., just like the prototypes. cheers, Fred Jansz
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Re: ID Help With Container Car
Schuyler Larrabee
I have a small (16”long) model cannon that my dad used to fire every once in a while, which used Calcium Carbide as the explosive force. I don’t know how to use it (which may be just as well , . . 😊 ) but I do remember that it made one hell of a loud bang when it fired. I don’t remember what the shot was, but I do remember it went a good long way. I’ve often thought I should let it go but then I worry that somebody would fool around with it and get hurt.
I think that CC can also be used in headlamps used in mines, but not sure about that.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:19 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ID Help With Container Car
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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Dennis Storzek
I hate picking apart someone else's work, but in the interest of not furthering misinformation:
Page nine has a cut-away view of a KC brake having an integral cut-out cock; this may well be an illustration from the patent for the original H equipment, since K equipment doesn't have this cut-out. Page ten snows a pictorial view of K brake equipment with the release valve properly shown at the center of the top of the reservoir (the side toward the floor. Page twelve shows the author's model with the release rod terminating at the triple valve rather than at the aforementioned release valve. None of the material on AB brakes shows the release valve or its rod at all, On AB equipment the release valve is on the control valve. Page 21 gives the pipe sizes as the Outside Diameter, while the dimensions cited are actually the trade size of the pipe, the OD (what we model) is larger. The model observation car has a UC-12 control valve, which hadn't yet been developed when that car was built, and those cars had a short life. He presents a PC brake diagram, but not PM or LN or UC-12, all much more common systems. I can't comment on the vacuum brakes. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Milk cars
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
That is correct Don. You are refering specifically to GPEX #803 and #804 both of which were rebuilds of earlier wood sheathed milk tank cars. General American used a cover for the two 3,000 gal. tanks each on these two cars that was similar to, but different, from that used by the cars that Borden owned outright. The two GPEX cars were leased to H.P. Hood & Sons thus being seen in service only in New England or as far out of it as the large Hood plant in Eagle Bridge, NY. If someone needs a photo to show the difference between the two Hood cars and the Borden cars I could post photos of the two Hood cars with some guidance as I've had no luck in doing so since the change was made to groups.io. I have both builder's photos and in service photos of the two Hood cars and expect everyone knows what the Borden cars looked like. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: ID Help With Container Car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Garth,
Back in the 1990s and early 2000s I used to regularly get to check out the
railroad cars being handled at the former SP yard in South San Francisco. A car
much like this one, perhaps even the SAME one, would show up every once in a
while. I checked it out at the time, and my memory is that these containers
contain calcium carbide.
I think one of the containers, closest to your camera, might be stenciled
PACIFIC CARBIDE.
As I recall, the containers had a footprint of around 4ft square. As you
can see in your image, there is a set of angle bars over the top of the
containers to hold them securely in place during transit. Calcium carbide is
used in the industrial world to make acetylene gas. There was a industrial gas
business not far from the yard I mentioned, I think the business was called
County Welding, they may have been the recipient of this material and may have
used it to make acetylene on site.
As a final item, link to a discussion regarding calcium carbide freight
cars...
Hope this helps!
Claus Schlund
From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID Help With Container Car Friends,
The attached photo of a container car is well beyond our era of interest. I
was hoping to learn more about the car itself to see if it would barely scrape
into our last year or so.
The car in question is CCKX 281. The only reference I can find to this
reporting mark is California
Contemporary, Inc., which doesn't seem right. I shot this in the SP/UP
Roseville yard near the RIP track around 1987. I suspect the car is loaded with
toxic waste of some sort.
Any help with the car's origin and who it belonged to would be
appreciated.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Dave, there is absolutely no shortage of excellent information about air brakes. I'm pretty sure we've all been discussing them by email for the past 25 years. Here are a couple of items for you. -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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