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Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

gtws00
 

Attached is PDS and order sheet and a scan that includes the instructions.
George Toman


Re: Boxcar Dimension Questions for a Decal Project

Matt Goodman
 

That advice and information helps a great deal. Thanks Dave.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio, US

On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab@...> wrote:

Matt:

At that time, T&G V-groove siding was either 3-1/4 or 2-5/8; the latter was actually 5-1/4 siding with a V-grove down the middle of the board.  My sense is that the 3-1/4 was far more common.

I usually check against a known length, like an 18" grab.  Or you can use the known/ approximate length of the car.  The difference between the two siding types is large enough (24% of the narrower spacing) that it is pretty easy to figure out what's on the car.

Hope this helps.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

James Brewer
 

Great looking car Bob.....great weathering too!

Jim Brewer


Re: Covered Hopper Help

Jeffrey White
 

Matt,

It could be a 7 and not a Y behind the IC.  That would put it in the 79000 series which were covered hoppers.  The IC bought covered hoppers in 1940 and 1941.  Built by G.A.T.C.  they list Spec No: G.A.T.C.-2853  and G.A.T.C. 1528.   However by 1954 79000 - 79029 were assigned to Pullman Standard cars built in 1953.  The G.A.T.C. cars were numbered 79500-79561 and 79562-79676 in 1954. The diagram sheets don't show those cars as being renumbered. The roof and hatches we can see on the car sure looks like the drawing.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. 

Jeff White

Alma, IL


On 8/21/2020 1:11 PM, Matt Smith wrote:
Trying to identify this covered hopper in the wreck. Lettering looks like IC and it's a wreck on the IC in Farmer City IL 1944. It looks like IC 9000 but there is also a Y next to the IC. Also looks to be a converted conventional 2 bay hopper. Thoughts?

You can download the high resolution photo in the drop down next to the print icon.
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll62/id/45330/rec/108
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Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

Nelson Moyer
 

Sorry, but I don’t have that one.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of nyc3001 .
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

 

This is kit 46.13.


Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

nyc3001 .
 

This is kit 46.13.


Re: Covered Hopper Help

Richard Townsend
 

I believe it is IC 79000. According to my 1/43 ORER, which is the closest to the date of the photo, the IC did not have any car numbered 9000. But it did have 14 all steel covered hoppers in the series 79000-79031. 31'11" length, 50-ton capacity.

I also checked for an ACY 9000 but no joy.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Smith <flyn96@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2020 11:11 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Covered Hopper Help

Trying to identify this covered hopper in the wreck. Lettering looks like IC and it's a wreck on the IC in Farmer City IL 1944. It looks like IC 9000 but there is also a Y next to the IC. Also looks to be a converted conventional 2 bay hopper. Thoughts?

You can download the high resolution photo in the drop down next to the print icon.
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll62/id/45330/rec/108
--

Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

gary laakso
 

What kit number is it?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of nyc3001 .
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 11:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

 

Hi guys,

I just got a Sunshine URTX 1948-1949 reefer kit, but it has no instructions or PDS. Does anyone have the documents for this kit?

Thanks,
Phil


Re: Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob,

We can begin to put a date on this photo by the Seaboard round-roof double-door boxcar. Series 1100-11999 (class AF-1) was delivered in 1940. Series 22000-22199 (class AF-2) were delivered in 1942. I'm not a Seaboard maven, and with a photo this small can't see the numbers to decide which class (I saved it to my desktop and blew it up with Photoshop; still not readable). Thus 1940 is our baseline.

I can't spot anything else that might be newer. The first Milwaukee Road rib-side cars were introduced in 1939 according to my resources. Maybe there is a clue in the GN goat herald, the M&STL single-sheathed boxcar with the slanted "Peoria Gateway" on its doors, or the ACL car with the very plain circular herald.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 1:04 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)

A fair quality photo from the Kansas City Public Library:

https://kchistory.org/islandora/object/kchistory%3A104507/datastream/OBJ/view

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Quite a variety of freight cars.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)

Bruce Smith
 

Interesting is right!  I missed that looking at the arrangement for unloading and loading, with the metal “spars” to the left and the ship’s hosts to the right. I wonder where these logs were headed?

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:46 PM, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:

interesting track arrangment
mel perry

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:08 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)
A photo from the Artstor website:
Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.
Taken at Wilmington, Delaware.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA




Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

nyc3001 .
 

Ah; my bad. 46.13 is the kit number.


Re: Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

Nelson Moyer
 

The kit number would help.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of nyc3001 .
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 1:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

 

Hi guys,

I just got a Sunshine URTX 1948-1949 reefer kit, but it has no instructions or PDS. Does anyone have the documents for this kit?

Thanks,
Phil


Covered Hopper Help

Matt Smith
 

Trying to identify this covered hopper in the wreck. Lettering looks like IC and it's a wreck on the IC in Farmer City IL 1944. It looks like IC 9000 but there is also a Y next to the IC. Also looks to be a converted conventional 2 bay hopper. Thoughts?

You can download the high resolution photo in the drop down next to the print icon.
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll62/id/45330/rec/108
--

Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Instructions and PDS-Sunshine URTX 1948-49 Reefer

nyc3001 .
 

Hi guys,

I just got a Sunshine URTX 1948-1949 reefer kit, but it has no instructions or PDS. Does anyone have the documents for this kit?

Thanks,
Phil


Re: Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)

Bill Keene
 

The West Bottoms was a very busy place. 

From the far distance coming forward there are the freight houses and yards of the following railroads:
CRI&P
MKT
MILW
ATSF
CB&Q
C&A — later GM&O
SLSF. 

Not viewable behind the large building in the left distance is a UP yard — State Line Yard. Also, just off the photo to the right is a KCT yard, a Wabash yard, and a KCS yard. 

The Kansas City Terminal Railway (KCT) also had trackage amongst these railroads in the photo. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Aug 21, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)
A fair quality photo from the Kansas City Public Library:
Click on the photo to enlarge it.
Quite a variety of freight cars.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)

mel perry
 

interesting track arrangment
mel perry

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:08 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)

A photo from the Artstor website:

https://library.artstor.org/#/asset/SS7729601_7729601_641419;prevRouteTS=1597971625034

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Taken at Wilmington, Delaware.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Robert kirkham
 

Really nice model!  Am very curious to hear what paint/ colour you used for the faded boxcar red?

Rob

On Aug 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Robert Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:

Wabash #8188 is a member of the 300-car DD boxcars series #8000-8299 of 1950. The carbodies featured 12-foot door openings, R-3-4 early improved dreadnaught ends, riveted panels, and a diagonal panel roof. Front Range’s circa-1990 kit #4090 nearly matches this prototype, exceptions being a 13-foot door opening and the later-style improved dreadnaught ends.  

The door opening was narrowed to 12 feet with styrene spacers, and the deep-fishbelly sidesill narrowed to more typical depth, bolster to bolster. Contemporary detail adds include Apex runningboard, Kadee 7/7 ladders and Miner brakewheel, and Tahoe Barber S-2 trucks. Decals are K4.

Thanks to Chet French for his technical help. Fun fact – according to Chet (and confirmed on the WAB lettering diagram), WAB added an extra 3” between the first and second numeral of a 4-digit car number; if five digits, the space moved between the second and third numerals.   

Regards,
Bob Chapman

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WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Bob Chapman
 

Wabash #8188 is a member of the 300-car DD boxcars series #8000-8299 of 1950. The carbodies featured 12-foot door openings, R-3-4 early improved dreadnaught ends, riveted panels, and a diagonal panel roof. Front Range’s circa-1990 kit #4090 nearly matches this prototype, exceptions being a 13-foot door opening and the later-style improved dreadnaught ends.  

The door opening was narrowed to 12 feet with styrene spacers, and the deep-fishbelly sidesill narrowed to more typical depth, bolster to bolster. Contemporary detail adds include Apex runningboard, Kadee 7/7 ladders and Miner brakewheel, and Tahoe Barber S-2 trucks. Decals are K4.

Thanks to Chet French for his technical help. Fun fact – according to Chet (and confirmed on the WAB lettering diagram), WAB added an extra 3” between the first and second numeral of a 4-digit car number; if five digits, the space moved between the second and third numerals.   

Regards,
Bob Chapman


Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 296954 With Export Log Load (Circa 1930s)

A photo from the Artstor website:

https://library.artstor.org/#/asset/SS7729601_7729601_641419;prevRouteTS=1597971625034

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Taken at Wilmington, Delaware.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Railroad Yards In West Bottoms (Undated)

A fair quality photo from the Kansas City Public Library:

https://kchistory.org/islandora/object/kchistory%3A104507/datastream/OBJ/view

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Quite a variety of freight cars.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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