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Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
Really Don?
Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉 https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org
There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long. Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat"
- "a hole into the water into which you pour money")
So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.
Regards,
Bruce
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.
Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
Donald B. Valentine
What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there is also a WW II flat top in NYC. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Erie RR track scale abbreviations
Jack Mullen
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09 PM, lrkdbn wrote:
What would be some Erie track scale abbreviations ca.1930?One of the great resources in the group's files is a spreadsheet of many reweigh scale codes. You can find it titled "Station & reweigh symbols.xls" , or this link should the you there: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/files/Station%20&%20Reweigh%20Symbols.xls Jack Mullen
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Re: Rapido HO cars for sale
Nelson Moyer
Rapido announced a third run of their meat reefers, and they're taking orders for four packs with new paint schemes. The red Swift scheme is in this run.
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 5:07 PM To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Rapido HO cars for sale Hello, All this meat train talk had me check stock and can offer two Rapido 37' meet reefers. There is one Dugdale and one Wimp packing. Also from Rapido is the NP 40' double sheathed boxcar, with radial roof. Four car numbers to choose from. Pre War version. Contact me offf list for any of these cars. Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
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Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car
Donald B. Valentine
Hello Brian, Good to see that you are back with us! My best, Don Valentine
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Rapido HO cars for sale
Ted Schnepf
Hello,
All this meat train talk had me check stock and can offer two Rapido 37' meet reefers. There is one Dugdale and one Wimp packing. Also from Rapido is the NP 40' double sheathed boxcar, with radial roof. Four car numbers to choose from. Pre War version. Contact me offf list for any of these cars. Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068
I believe it was 1947
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:53 PM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068
gtws00
That car really turned out nice.
George Toman
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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068
Donald B. Valentine
NIce touch with the replaced plamnk, Fenton. I've done that for years with box car and reefer sheathing. No reason not to apply the same technique here. Your comment about white lettering raises a question, however. When di the UP change from white to tellow freight car lettering? That's something I need to pay more attention to with a cut-off date of 31 Dec. 1948, a eriod of many such chanes. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Erie RR track scale abbreviations
David
Here's a 1917-built car reweighed at "BFO":
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-09-19/X4529.jpg David Thompson
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Re: Poorly Secured Load?
Donald B. Valentine
I'll go a bit further than Ron's suggestion that there is a "Do ot Hump" placard, or will be before it leaves town, on this load. Given the width of the tank, as evidenced by the inward taper of the tie down bamds, one wonders if this car wold be moved in regualr service or as a "High Wide" move. The blocking looks substantial which might mean that the bands are perfectly adequate if their strength were known. Bob suggests the need for a third one. Where? In the middle? The ability of another band in the middle would be badly compromised if ether of the end bands failed. I'd prefer to see a double band on each end if there were any doubt at all, which there is with me, about the two present but that may come from my 35 years of insuring railroads. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Erie RR track scale abbreviations
lrkdbn
Dear group.
I am currently finishing a Westerfield Erie Dominion Fowler box car. What would be some Erie track scale abbreviations ca.1930? Thanks for any help you can give Stay Safe!!! LR King <lrkdbn@...>
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Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car
Benjamin Hom
Tony Thompson wrote: "There certainly is a prototype for a lot of odd things, but hardly 'anything.' And I will repeat my own personal mantra, that it's wise to model the typical and the commonplace, and restrain your modeler's joy in modeling the weird, the rare, and the one-off. That is, of course, if you are seeking to model reality." "Modeling all of the exceptions does not make an exceptional layout." - John Nehrich Ben Hom
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Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car
Tony Thompson
Hudson Leighton wrote: A 1920 Northern Pacific Railway AFE 5005-20 which calls for using LV (Lehigh Valley?) car as parts source for NP water car. Actually, I think you need to rephrase that. There certainly is a prototype for a lot of odd things, but hardly "anything." And I will repeat my own personal mantra, that it's wise to model the typical and the commonplace, and restrain your modeler's joy in modeling the weird, the rare, and the one-off. That is, of course, if you are seeking to model reality. Tony Thompson
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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068
Lester Breuer
Excellent build Fenton. Thanks for sharing.
Lester Breuer
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Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car
Richard Townsend
Somewhere in my files I have AFEs from the C&S for converting or repairing (and keeping) wrecked cars from the PRR and Erie. Railroads were pretty skilled at squeezing out whatever value they were able to find in salvage. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 12:29 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] AFE building NP car from LV Car A 1920 Northern Pacific Railway AFE 5005-20 which calls for using LV (Lehigh Valley?) car as parts source for NP water car.
There is a prototype for anything. -Hudson
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Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car
Hey, they paid the Valley for it so might as well get some use out of it.
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On Apr 10, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:
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Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Tim, Great photo, even if it is beyond our era. You can even see Hooker's 25T GE in the big photo (the on one of the tracks near the tank farm to the right of the photo). This locomotive shows in one of the other photos from the Tacoma PL Collection. And a Liberty Ship as a bonus. This is likely either the SS Woodbridge Ferris, or the SS Mahlon Pitney, both of which were cut up at Tacoma in 2010 after sitting derelict in Commencement Bay for years. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:27 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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AFE building NP car from LV Car
Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
A 1920 Northern Pacific Railway AFE 5005-20 which calls for using LV (Lehigh Valley?) car as parts source for NP water car.
There is a prototype for anything. -Hudson
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Re: Poorly Secured Load?
My WAG is those loads are so heavy, they stay on cars by shear weight alone. Only reason for the bands is to who knows what. ~}
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