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SEEKINGIF SUNSHINE INSTRUCTIONS
WILLIAM PARDIE
I recently purchased a Sunshine Santa Fe Ft-V flat car on Ebay. I was very happy to get the kit.This morning I was inspecting the kit (30.12)and found that the prototype data sheet was correct but the instructions were for a 40 FT flat car not Santa Fe. The ever gracious Jim Hayes sent me his file. This included the Prototype Data Sheet and the order sheet. The instructions were for the Santa Fe Ft- I andJ kit. Talked to Jim and now we are both looking for the Ft-V instructions Appreciate any help: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: Photo: WFEX 67395 With Forward Facing Rocky (Circa 1938)
Bill Welch
WFEX 67395 is built to what I call the 1926 FGE design. It is taller than their 1921 design—first built for Western Fruit in 1923—and was originally built with a double board roof but has been rebuilt with a Hutchins roof. The sill is an 8-inch steel channel. Models of this car were offered for both FGE and WFE by Sunshine.
Bill Welch
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Re: Brass tank car
Steve SANDIFER
I purchased one of the 2 dome insulated, I think for $60 on ebay. Richard H sent me the attached photo as the possible car. Note the ladder.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 6:16 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Brass tank car
Hello Craig,
to make all the confusion complete, I am sure you are speaking of this car:
I remember that discussion, too.
Regards
Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Montag, 17. August 2020 um 07:35 Uhr I recall a discussion of this car a while ago. It does have a prototype albeit not a common one. Arnt Gerritsen (draftsman and researcher for Overland Models) found it at the NIPSCO power plant in Michigan City Indiana. At the time it was used for storage and was not in interchange service. I don't believe any photos of a similar car have ever surfaced. Arnt said it had a private reporting mark for NIPSCO but no evidence of any previous mark (GATX, ACFX, etc). I painted one of these models for a friend years ago and lacking any other information we went though the equipment register listing for GATX and picked a number from an "empty" series. You could do the same and just hide it when the prototype police show up at the door.
Craig Wilson
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Re: What's on my workbench
Jim Hayes
I'm just like you Tom. I'll lose something, look all over for it, then several days later "there it is" right in front of me. Jim
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Photo: WFEX 67395 With Forward Facing Rocky (Circa 1938)
Photo: WFEX 67395 With Forward Facing Rocky (Circa 1938) A photo from the California Revealed website: https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112263 Especially for the Great Northern fans. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)
Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated) Photos from the California Revealed website: https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112193 https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112194 Probably taken before or after Prohibition (January 1920 to December 1933), I would think. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: What’s on my work bench
Paul Doggett
Tony
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Thank You the Archer rivets were a great boost saved hours with my hand riveting tool. Paul Doggett
On 17 Aug 2020, at 23:19, Tony Thompson <tony@signaturepress.com> wrote:
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Re: What’s on my work bench
Tony Thompson
Good-looking tender project, Paul, and as you stated, used behind a wide variety of small SP power, usually when in switching assignments.
Yet another example of a job that would be pretty daunting without Archer rivets. Tony Thompson tony@signaturepress.com
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Re: What's on my workbench
Tom Madden
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:14 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:
I lose lots of tools, usually when they're in plain sight. They're right where they should be on my workbench, I just don't see them. Tom Madden
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Re: What's on my workbench
Nelson, Impressive, you are much better organized and neater than I am. I'm 77 and muddling through Fenton
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:21 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: What's on my workbench
Paul Doggett
Nelson
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That’s a great set up you have, I do my modelling so I am handy from my wife who does have health problems. Even 24 stock cars is pretty good going. Oh age is not an excuse I still have fifty kits to build and at least 10 locos to paint plus I do like to run the layout now and again. Paul
On 17 Aug 2020, at 19:21, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: Brass tank car
Mont Switzer
Bruce,
As far as I know the NIPSCO (Northern Indiana Public Service Commission) car was used for on site storage only.
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Bruce Smith [smithbf@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 1:29 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Brass tank car
Jim,
Don't assume that the compartments are either filled at the same time or with dissimilar materials.
For example, the PRR used its TM8s (single dome tank car) to ferry used crankcase oil to its reclamation plant in East Altoona from engine houses around the system and recycled oil back to the engine houses. Tired of cleaning the cars before each trip with
recycled oil, they purchases 2nd hand 3 dome cars. The center compartment was used for dirty lube oil and the end compartments were used for clean oil. So, it all depended on which direction the car was moving as to which compartments were in use.
The GATC/NIPSCO car is an insulated car, so why two compartments? The following are pure
speculation, but...
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al
<snip> I find the fact that it is a two-dome that was owned by Nipsco a
bit hard to explain. I'm trying to explain to myself the reason for
any power plant to own a two-dome car. What would a power plant be needing that justifies a two-dome car (relatively small quantities of two different non-standard liquids)? It has me scratching my head to explain it. - Jim
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Re: What's on my workbench
Nelson Moyer
One small correction, Paul, I said 48 stock car sides, so that’s only 24 cars. Actually, my workbench is small like yours because it shares duty as my ham radio bench and computer station I get around that limitation by using lots of cutting mats, breadboards, or simply hanging file folders holding the instructions and prototype photos to move parts and partial builds on and off of the workbench. It’s very much a production line process. with only the active board on the bench at one time. Before I had to sacrifice space for my triple deck layout, I had a 6 ft. by 18 in. workbench, and that’s where I build the stock cars. After that, I cut down the bench and put it in a closet to save space for the layout. Don’t used age as an excuse. I started building the layout at age 70, and I’m 77 now. All of the other batch builds except the stock cars were done in the closet. I attached photos of the closet and some of the ‘parts holders’.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 12:00 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What's on my workbench
Nelson
I see your point one of my problems is I only have a small modelling area about 24x18 inches. Also I do like to build a car then build a different car as my layout out is pretty well complete so I really cannot divert to doing work on that, as for building 48 stock car I take my crash helmet off to you. At 72 I guess I am stuck in my ways having built in 4mm/ft and done a lot of scratch building in 0 scale 7mm/ft including 1890-1910 British goods wagons (not freight cars) for the industrial museum at Derby. I also scratch built locos, passenger coaches and wagons for the 0 gauge layout I had at the time.
Regards Paul
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Re: What's on my workbench
Mont Switzer
Thanks Jim, will try to figure out a routing if possible, otherwise I'm sure the hauled some VA furniture up our way.
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of James Brewer [jim.brewer.3611@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 10:26 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What's on my workbench Mont,
I've attached the N&W diagrams for these cars which spell out the "special equipment" for each. N&W loved to rebuild cars (mainly for accounting/tax purposes) so this group had a number of "plain" cars for general loading and use. As you can see, several groups of the B1a car had special equipment; note for the B1b the one group was equipped with Automobile Transmission racks. Jim Brewer Attachments:
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Re: What’s on my work bench
Bruce Griffin
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Re: Brass tank car
Jim,
Don't assume that the compartments are either filled at the same time or with dissimilar materials.
For example, the PRR used its TM8s (single dome tank car) to ferry used crankcase oil to its reclamation plant in East Altoona from engine houses around the system and recycled oil back to the engine houses. Tired of cleaning the cars before each trip with
recycled oil, they purchases 2nd hand 3 dome cars. The center compartment was used for dirty lube oil and the end compartments were used for clean oil. So, it all depended on which direction the car was moving as to which compartments were in use.
The GATC/NIPSCO car is an insulated car, so why two compartments? The
following are pure speculation, but...
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al
<snip> I find the fact that it is a two-dome
that was owned by Nipsco a
bit hard to explain. I'm trying to explain to myself the reason for
any power plant to own a two-dome car. What would a power plant be needing that justifies a two-dome car (relatively small quantities of two different non-standard liquids)? It has me scratching my head to explain it. - Jim
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Re: WM Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #3
Bob Chapman
1) Fenton asks: Where do you get your door hardware from?
The latch came as part of the DA door kit. I think DA also offered the latches separately.
2) A general comment -- in my case, upgrading these vintage kits from C&BT, IMWX, and Front Range has been a surprisingly fun offset to "Sunshine withdrawal" (not to leave out the kits from the newer cast resin suppliers that have also filled some of the breach).
The process for these older kits is a bit different. You need to do the research to see which roads fielded the kit's carbody type, and what type of hardware (doors, roof, runningboard, handbrake, trucks, etc.) were chosen. Then there's the search for photos, and the shopping to track down the needed parts and decals. Finally at that point, the modeling becomes somewhat similar to putting together a cast resin kit. If you have some of these older kits lying around, don't let them go to waste; it's been a fun trip here.
Regards,
Bob Chapman
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Re: What's on my workbench
i lost my HO scale ruler, I've had it since the early 1960's. Did any of you guys borrow it???? Fenton
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Brass tank car
WILLIAM PARDIE
Above is the Overland car as I finished it way back when. A SHIPX photo was one of the few I found at that time. The domes are a bit large. IO would probably repaint the car if I could find a correct prototype photo of this car. Bill P{Pardie
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Re: What's on my workbench
It just kinda evolved.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:53 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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