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KIngan Employee Magazines was Kingan Reefers

Brian Carlson
 

A few folks asked that I post the link to the Kingan employee magazines I found online during my reefer rabbit hole. Here is the link. http://cdm16066.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/collection/p16066coll50/searchterm/kingan%20folks/field/all/mode/all/conn/and/order/title/ad/asc

 

I understand there is a Bull Shippers group, and this might interest them also so if anyone is on that group, share away.

 

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

 


Re: Greg Martin

Richard Townsend
 

I am proud to have called Greg my friend. He was such a good and generous man. Kitbashing is my favorite part of the hobby and I felt he was a kindred spirit. 

I'm very much a loner-type, and he often encouraged me to go to Cocoa Beach. As a result, in 2018 and again this year I went. He made a point of including me in various conversations and activities, and introducing me around. 

He lived about 50 miles from me and I used to run into him from time to time at our "local" hobby shop (about 90 miles from me and 40 from him) or at swap meets. A couple of years ago he came by my table at a swap meet where, among other things, I had several C&BT double door box cars for sale. He told me I should hang onto them as they would being coming in handy soon. I assumed he was talking about an upcoming S'n'T project. He got a great deal of joy out of keeping S'n'T projects secret, so I knew better than to ask him about it.

Late last year he and I shared some tables at a local swap meet and during that day I learned so much from him as we chatted at slow times about items on our tables or what we could pick up at others' tables. As he would tell me about a kitbashing opportunity I would circulate around the room to pick up the model he was talking about. I was able to find a couple of items for him, too.

He organized an RPM meet in Salem, Oregon, called "Rails by the River," for a couple of years, until his health issues got in the way. In January at Cocoa Beach he told me he was planning on reviving it next year.

I will miss him terribly. Cocoa Beach certainly won't be the same without him.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014@...>
To: realstmfc@groups.io <realstmfc@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, May 2, 2020 12:17 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Greg Martin

Hi Guys,

I case you never met him, I thought I'd share of my friend "TGreg", as I called him, at Cocoa Beach in January 2009.  That's Greg on the right and Chris "Ziggy" Zygmunt at left.

Godspeed, brother.



John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

Allen Cain
 

  Thanks Garth.

Trying to decide to sell them or keep them.

Tending toward keeping them and squinting when I look at them to convince myself that they are accurate, or just not worry about it.

My October 1955 ORER lists 49 cars in the 40200 to 40249 which are 50' 6" long with double staggered doors and an inside height of 10' 8" with no reference to end doors.  P2K did the Southern boxcars in this number series but that it all that I can come up with right now.

And for some reason Ike's boxcar book is in hiding tonight.  Once I flush it out maybe it will shed more light on this P2K kit.

Allen


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Doug Pillow
 

I could see much better the old Champ decals on pink backing paper . Some of the sets were excellent
Doug Pillow


Still have one resin kit for sale

Jared Harper
 

I have a Rutland Car Shops resin kit for a Rutland 36' Rutland stock car.  With some work it can be bashed into a Santa Fe stock car.  Steve Sandifer did it.  My kit is for sale for $25 plus  shipping.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606


Another Proto2000 question

mopacfirst
 

Sorry I can't look this up for myself, but I've moved most of my reference material and not myself.

There are more than one Proto2000 50' double door box with end doors available on line, in the yellow lettering Be Specific and in a transitional red with white lettering with the shield UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, and Automated Rail Way scheme.  I decaled one in the Be Specific scheme years ago, so my question is whether this scheme is legitimate and common.  This model, by the way, is marked NEW 9-56, which I know is not matching with the details of the car construction.

Second, related, question -- did these cars, which were probably early 40s construction, generally get roofwalk replacements?

ebay item number 333548211837
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-Proto-2000-30339-UP-Union-Pacific-50-Double-Door-Box-Car-161413/333548211837?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D98c106fc841e419b84ef626996fcff05%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D402251792501%26itm%3D333548211837%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

Ron Merrick


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Rod Miller
 

I've had the same experience. I believe it was because I used a permanent marker which must contain some solvents.

What luck have people had with non-permanent markers?


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 

Using a lightbox may be the way to see the decals better, if all else fails Tupperware and a Flashlight.

-Hudson


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

What about a highlighter instead? Like blue?

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On May 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

I tried that on a Microscale decal a few months ago and it did not work out well.  This was one of those sets with lots of dimensional data, which are extremely hard to see.  I used one of those large Sharpies and the fill of black color as viewed from the front was very splotchy, even when being colored over a couple of times.  That didn't help much in locating where to cut.  Worse, I thought that this made the decal very hard to release from the backing, almost impossible.  As in any controlled experiment, I tried some with and some without.  I could have been doing something wrong, but I'd rather not try this on any decal that might be hard to replace.

This technique was first mentioned in instructions from Oddballs.  I never tried it with an Oddballs decal, but those are old enough now that I've taken to painting the face of the decal with Microscale liquid decal film, which does a great job of preventing film breakup.

Ron Merrick


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

mopacfirst
 

I tried that on a Microscale decal a few months ago and it did not work out well.  This was one of those sets with lots of dimensional data, which are extremely hard to see.  I used one of those large Sharpies and the fill of black color as viewed from the front was very splotchy, even when being colored over a couple of times.  That didn't help much in locating where to cut.  Worse, I thought that this made the decal very hard to release from the backing, almost impossible.  As in any controlled experiment, I tried some with and some without.  I could have been doing something wrong, but I'd rather not try this on any decal that might be hard to replace.

This technique was first mentioned in instructions from Oddballs.  I never tried it with an Oddballs decal, but those are old enough now that I've taken to painting the face of the decal with Microscale liquid decal film, which does a great job of preventing film breakup.

Ron Merrick


You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Bob Chaparro
 

You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

A 1953 photo from the Akron-Summit County Public Library:

https://www.summitmemory.org/digital/collection/ABJarchives/id/2001/

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "Photograph of more than eighty employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. lined up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm had just completed for the Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ontario. The steel cylinder was one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measured 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter, and weighed 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out."

Additional Description: "They're Making 'Em Big at Biggs Boiler / to Kuebler. 146 Ft. Long Cylinder at Biggs Boiler / 1-19-53 / They're Making 'Em Big At Biggs Boiler / More than 80 employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. line up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm has just completed for Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ont. The steel cylinder is one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measures 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter and weighs 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out. / Beacon Journal Photograph"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Allen,

Our friend Fenton Wells wrote an article in the November 2012 RMC on kitbashing the Southern cars to 10' IH.

I do not see Southern represented in two RMJ articles on the Lifelike cars by Richard Hendrickson, October 1995 and September 1996.

The 1944 ORER lists three classes of 50' 10' 6' IH double door boxcars with 15' 6" door openings: 40200-40249 (end doors and auto racks), 41500-41549 (end doors, no racks), 42000-42299 (no end doors or auto racks). Curiously, the total number of cars in each group is not filled in, suggesting they were pending delivery when the ORER was printed, though the "denotes additions" triangles are missing.

I have unbuilt Lifelike kit 21027 for Southern 40249, and kit 8419 for 42010. I seem to remember there was something a bit dodgy about these two cars, maybe the sills or something. They do look nice.

The only thing I can add is that I have a copy of a builder's photo of 39969 circa 1947. This car has Superior doors and 4/4 improved Dreadnaught ends.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:42 PM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

rdgbuff56
 

Not sure.  But do have an updated for sale list.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:42:23 PM UTC, Allen Cain <allencaintn@...> wrote:


Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Proto2000 Boxcars

Allen Cain
 

Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Photo: D&RGW Gondolas 40560 & 40022

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: D&RGW Gondolas 40560 & 40022

A 1920 photo from the University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=539326&page=2&facet_format_t=%22image%2Fjpeg%22&q=%28%28oil%29+AND+%28railroad%29%29

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

leakinmywaders
 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:41 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
I have heard the if you color the back of the paper with a marker, it helps to see the decals on the front."
This has worked for me on numerous occasions with decals produced by MicroScale, and some custom-printed decals from an Alps printer.  Best is one of those jumbo Sharpies that really saturates the paper.  With a standard issue Sharpie marker, you often have to go over it twice to get enough pigment into the paper. I've seen no ink transfer to the decal carrier, but results might differ with decals produced other manufacturers using different paper.  

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Photos from the kc1533.org/ website:

http://kc1533.org/webpages/FreightCars/PoultryCar/PoultryPalace.html

Quite a few photos.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Bruce Smith
 

I have heard the if you color the back of the paper with a marker, it helps to see the decals on the front. I've always been nervous to do this since the only markers in the house are sharpies. My guess is that paint would also work.

Obviously, TEST these suggestions on a decal or section of decal that you don't want to use!

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard McQuade via groups.io <richardmcquade@...>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:29 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.
 
To read white dry transfers I use a sheet of black construction paper behind them so I can read them. Maybe using a bit of tape on the top of the decal sheet and attached to  a piece of black construction paper behind the decal sheet could help with at least seeing the decals better. I haven't tried it with decals and the thickness of the decal sheet will make a difference but this might work in some cases. Nothing lost in trying it.
Richard


Re: Photo: NP Reefer 91725

Edward
 

Well, that door job neatly solves any issues about loading the car using larger forklifts!
Ed Bommer


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Exactly the set that brought my rant to the fore!

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Corral
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

          "Light blue for decal paper is an improvement over white, but why can’t it be a medium blue instead of light robin’s egg blue . . .???

I have the same question. 

I'm having trouble distinguishing where to cut between lettering on the decals I received at the 2020 Cocoa Beach RPM Shake-N-Take. The lettering is white on a very pale blue almost white background.  Any solutions? 

George

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