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Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Bill Decker
 

Claus,

Definitely wood chips.  At that point in the 1950s (1958), Georgia Pacific was shipping wood chips from the mill at Toledo, Oregon.  GP purchased the Toledo mill from C.D. Johnson in 1956.  I just spotted a picture of the first outbound load of wood chips from Toledo in a 1957 photo in "Forest Rails, Georgia-Pacific's Railroads."  That picture has SP 350477, a G-50-20-A, a composite GS gon with early chip extensions---the ones with an inboard-slanted top.   At this point, the Toledo mill, a former US Army Spruce Division mill sold in the 1920s to CD Johnson was strictly a lumber mill.  

Sometime later (date TBD), a pulp and paper mill was added at Toledo--well past the era of our Steam Era list.  That must have been in the 1960's, as I well remember long strings of wood chip gondolas rolling through Corvallis headed out TO Toledo (not from), making for heavy trains to and from Toledo on the Oregon Coast.  That is beyond our list era.  Actually, even the subject photo (1958) and my "first wood chip shipment" photo (1957) are beyond steam, which died on Western Oregon lines of the SP in late 1955.

Bill Decker.
McMinnville, Oregon


Re: C&O Bunk Cars and Jordan Spreader

Tony Thompson
 

    Thanks for these, Garth. The bunk cars are really interesting, and your shots are very clear and definitive. Did you by any chance see the opposite sides? were they the same?

Tony Thompson




C&O Bunk Cars and Jordan Spreader

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

Today, I am finishing up presenting photos of C&O MW house cars. This isn't all that I have, but what's left are essentially duplicates of what you've already seen. I have a few C&O open cars, Burro cranes, and tenders coming up, but I'm going to keep them spaced them out a bit. I also have a very few really cool Western Maryland cars that turned up here in Charlottesville, plus some from West Virginia.

I also have a few interesting Southern MW cars coming your way. Since most of what I saw were PS-1s, I will limit what I show to open cars and a couple of really old boxcars.

In today's lot, bunk car 911106 is another of the ex-Hocking Valley auto cars. I think this one has been more recently resided and has a much different window arrangement than the previous tool cars. Also note that it appears the siding has been replaced along the bottom, possibly from rust between the siding and the side frame. I'm not certain where I found this particular car, possibly at Scottsville on the James River line.

940256 is unlike any other C&O MW car I encountered. It appears to be converted from a 50' auto car. Note the car-end man door, and the Allied Full Cushion trucks, which are not original if I'm right about the car's origin. This car was at Clifton Forge.

Jordan spreader 914057 was found in Charlottesville. I was fortunate to be able to get two views of this machine.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆 



Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jun 2, 2020, at 12:44, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@hellgatemodels.com> wrote:

Hi List Members,

Can anyone say what exactly is going on here? Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df65vv071
My muse whispers "wood chips" in my ear.


Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Paul Doggett
 

SP 50’ door and a half automobile cars had there roofs cut off for wood chip service in the fifties.
Paul Doggett    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 2 Jun 2020, at 20:59, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
Can anyone say what exactly is going on here? Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?
 
 
Enjoy
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Todd Sullivan
 

Woodchips, most likely for paper manufacture.

The SP sent a lot of chips up their line to Portland and on via the NP to Longview Fiber in Longview WA.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Bruce Smith
 

Claus,

Those look like early wood chip cars.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:44 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?
 
Hi List Members,
 
Can anyone say what exactly is going on here? Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?
 
 
Enjoy
 
Claus Schlund
 


Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Can anyone say what exactly is going on here? Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?
 
 
Enjoy
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: SHPX ORER help needed

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Eric,

 

               My collection of photos of SHPX LO’s is very limited.  The ones that I have that are legible are all photos of new cars that have not been reweighed.

 

Sorry,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Mumper
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:10 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SHPX ORER help needed

 

Jeff,

When you look at pictures of these cars, can you tell where they were reweighed?  I am curious if SHPX did the reweigh at their locations or if they were done by the railroads as needed when needed.  Thanks.

Eric Mumper


Re: Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

Dave Parker
 

The photo date is given as March, 1912.  The safety appliances look like a work in progress.  The grabs look OK, but that sill step is iffy.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

Eric Hansmann
 

It looks like the car has a 4-20 weigh stencil. Or is that 4-20   11 with a larger space than usual? I’m more accustomed to seeing pre-1915 weigh dates presented as fractions.

 

Where was AR for a weigh location? Or is it H. AR?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

 

Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

A 1912 photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d132q

Caption: "Two men standing at the door of a boxcar used to transport elk from Saint Anthony, Idaho to Joseph, Oregon. The elk were part of a transplant program to bring a herd of elk from Yellowstone Park in Wyoming to the Wallowa Mountains in Oregon."

Interesting that a regular boxcar was used for this shipment.

From the other photos in the set there was a big crowd at the depot to see the elk being loaded.

Corralled elk:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d139n

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d140d

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: "Elk" Boxcar

A 1912 photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d132q

Caption: "Two men standing at the door of a boxcar used to transport elk from Saint Anthony, Idaho to Joseph, Oregon. The elk were part of a transplant program to bring a herd of elk from Yellowstone Park in Wyoming to the Wallowa Mountains in Oregon."

Interesting that a regular boxcar was used for this shipment.

From the other photos in the set there was a big crowd at the depot to see the elk being loaded.

Corralled elk:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d139n

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71d140d

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Photo: Mather Patent Illinois Central Reefer

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Mather Patent Illinois Central Reefer

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71fp45w

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: National Car Co. NX 6898

Bob Chaparro
 

It looks to me as if the letter "i" in "Meat Rail" was left off the stenciling over the door. But maybe it's just the angle of the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: GATX 26452

Tony Thompson
 

That was something GATC liked to do if someone specified platforms on both sides of the tank. Those 12k tanks they built for Gulf had this arrangement.
I'm pretty sure the buyer specified what they wanted for all such features, rather than GATC doing "what they liked to do."

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


PM twin hoppers

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Lots of nice PM twin hoppers in the image linked below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: railroad car ferry - was - Photo: Detroit Reduction Company Garbage Cars

David Soderblom
 

A double-ended business car!



David Soderblom
Baltimore MD USA






Re: railroad car ferry - was - Photo: Detroit Reduction Company Garbage Cars

John Riddell
 

The caption is incorrect. The view shows the Canadian National yard (not CP) in Windsor Ontario with the car ferry WINDSOR in the Wabash ferry slip. The four-track car ferry, owned by the Wabash Railroad, ferried railway cars across the Detroit River from 1930 until 1969 when it was converted to a car float and pushed by a tug. It had a capacity of 31 freight cars and was one of the biggest car ferries on the river. Detroit is in the background across the Detroit River.

 

John Riddell   

 

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Re: Cable Reel Loads

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi Bruce,

    I'm a little late getting into this but Hendrix wire in Milford, NH was using wood reels right through
the 1970's. One could often see truck loads of wood reels made by Carris Reel of Rutland, VT by
the tractor-trailer load in many places not too distant from Rutland. If there is anyone on this list in
the Portsmouth, NH area perhaps they can tell us what Simplex Wire & Cable in nearby Newington
is using for reels. In the mid-1960's I worked there during my years at UNH and there were both
wood and steel reels around at that time IIRC.

My best, Don Valentine


GATX 26452

David
 

This one's really interesting.  The side ladder appears to have collapsed.  But what's even more interesting is the, for lack of a better word, 'interim' dome platform, not a full level platform with railings but more than just side platforms.
That was something GATC liked to do if someone specified platforms on both sides of the tank. Those 12k tanks they built for Gulf had this arrangement.

David Thompson

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