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Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

 The car to the right appears to be a Erie car with an end door. I'll leave the rest to
tjose with better computer ability than I possess.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Tony Thompson
 

Don Valentine wrote:

One thing we noticed on Plain Jane tank cars was that they often had a walkway on only one side of the dome. On some it  seemed to be on the left from the "B" end and on others on the right. We were never able to determine what the protocols were that decided whether a car would have walkways on both sides of the dome or only one side and which side if only one. Can anyone answer these questions?

     There is a simple answer, from Ed Kaminski who worked with the AC&F tank car plant for years. The answer? it was buyer choice.

Tony Thompson




Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

hello Allen,

    I'd be interested in some etched walkways and platform decks for the same lines of tank cars.
Also have a tank car question. Back in the late 1990's my late friend Bob Witbeck, a kit-basher
extrodinaire, and I were doing some joint research on tank cars. One thing we noticed on Plain
Jane tank cars was that they often had a walkway on only one side of the dome. On some it 
seemed to be on the left from the "B" end and on others on the right. We were never able to
determine what the protocols were that decided whether a car would have walkways on both
sides of the dome or only one side and which side if only one. Unfortunately Bob suffered a
major stroke in April 2000 after which we was an invalid for another decade before passing.
Can anyone answer these questions?

My best, Don Valentine


Photo: NP Reefer 91497

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 

NP Reefer 91497


Re: I’m trying to make out the owning road

Lee
 

An online search brings up this image from Salt Lake City. 

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s60s039q 





Lee Stoermer
Aldie, VA

On Friday, May 1, 2020, 16:14, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
In the image below, I can see two boxcars. I’m trying to make out the owning road for the one closest to the camers, but I’m not successful so far. Perhaps others on the list will look at this and will know right away...
 
I see 5-5-5 ends, possibly Murphy style, or perhaps inverse Murphy (is that a term?). It also looks to have two doors on the side I that can see, making it an automobile boxcar. Does that ring a bell for anyone?
 
Use the “Download” button to get a higher-resolution image, this will help.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Number Change On Kadee Cars

golden1014
 

Fenton Wells at srrfan1401@... can answer ALL your Southern Rwy freight car questions.

John Golden
Germany


Early Great Northern reefers

Ray Hutchison
 

I've taken a special interest in the early Great Northern refrigerator cars -- that is, refrigerator cars owned by Great Northern Railway prior to formation of WFEX in 1923.  The valuation reports prior to this period show that the Great Northern had several thousand refrigerator cars, including 33' (I assume Wickes) 38' and 40' cars.  I have looked for builder photos (to no avail) and have found just two photographs of cars in The Great Yellow Fleet and two other photographs in The Rusty Dusty (very good book on the Geat Northern in the Wenatchee area) -- but no color photographs.  I am wondering if anyone here might no of photographs in other sources, car diagrams, and the like.  And of course the color and reporting marks; I assume that the early WFEX  cars were Great Northern cars turned over to WFEX... but assumptions in model railroading are often treacherous.  Thank you for any suggestions!  Ray Hutchison, Green Bay WI

(Note: Not referring to the Express Refrigerator cars owned by the Great Northern that continued to be run as GN Express cars, the Ambroid model and later Roundhouse/Athearn models appear to be mostly true to prototype)


Re: Speaking of rivets

James Cummings
 

Does anyone have a source for 0.010 lead foil in reasonable small quantities for modeling purposes? James Cummings


wire gauge for tie-rods

Ray Hutchison
 

I was not certain the correct gauge for tie-rods for early box cars and reefers?  The originals are usually given as 1.5 inches.  Hopefully this would the queen posts in the old roundhouse 36' kits?

and related question about correct size for air and steam tubes on brass models?

Thanks for suggestions!

Ray Hutchison
Green Bay WI


Re: Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

Ray Hutchison
 

What were these used for?


On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:27 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

A 1940 builder's photo from the Illinois Digital Archives:

http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/19536/rec/72

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Greg Martin

golden1014
 

Hi Guys,

I case you never met him, I thought I'd share of my friend "TGreg", as I called him, at Cocoa Beach in January 2009.  That's Greg on the right and Chris "Ziggy" Zygmunt at left.

Godspeed, brother.



John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/


Re: Greg Martin

Peter Weiglin
 

Just got off the phone with Bob Hundman; we commiserated over the passing of Greg Martin.  And we agree that while ihis passing is a tragedy, we can minimize our grief by dwelling on how lucky we all are that Greg was with us at al, and for as long as he was. This hobby and this world are better because he was here.;

Peter Weiglin


Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

Eric Hansmann
 

Could it be Cambria Steel? They also built freight cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 2, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
I believe it was Carnegie Steel that built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons for their own internal plant use. It was the success of these gons that quickly convinced the railroads to buy similar cars.
 
These two images linked below illustrate the car CSCO 534 nicely...
 
 
 
As I recall, one of the TSC books had an image of one of these cars, for those in search of yet one more image.
 
I suspect the CSCO 65 foot gons may not have been used interchange service, and perhaps never left the plant. Can anyone on the list confirm or deny this?
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Covid 19 Builds

O Fenton Wells
 

Great project, hope it turns out perfectly 
Fenton 


On May 2, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Paul Catapano <pc66ot@...> wrote:


I'm building a Train room with a house for my Wife over it.


Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA




Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

CJ Riley
 

The references I have don’t show Utah operations for Carnegie Steel. Perhaps it’s like the local iron works in Irondale (near Port Townsend) WA that I was told was owned by Carnegie.Research on the company in the local library indicated this was not true. Could CSCO be a different company?




Covid 19 Builds

Paul Catapano
 

I'm building a Train room with a house for my Wife over it.


Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA




Re: [External] [RealSTMFC] C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car

naptownprr
 

Also a nice locomotive!


Jim Hunter


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Hi List Members,
 
There is a nice image of C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car in coal service in 1907 at Independent Coal Coke Company in Utah
 
 
This car is quite far from home!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Allen Cain
 

Tony,

Good advice.

What got me started on this was, what to my eye, is a really bad wooden walkway on the Broadway cars. To me, the "texture" is just wrong.

Which is a shame considering the quality of the car.

May just live with it or find some thin "peel and stick" wood to go over it.  I know AMB/LaserKit made these for gons and flats but there are boards running across them.

Anyway, will save my Tangent and Kadee cars from distruction!

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Bill Welch
 

I am pretty sure Plano has a walkway made for the Red Caboose kit. I think mine is stored in the kit box. It will be no small project to use it however as there needs to be a LOT of cutting/whittling to come up with a decent looking u/f. I ordered three Kadee underframe/running board assemblies to attempt to graft them to Atlas tanks with their ridiculous underframe but have not done anything as yet.

I think most of the Broadway tank car should have wood, not steel running boards. It think most of the IM Type 27 similarly should have wood, not steel. Could be wrong however on both counts.

Bill Welch


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

gary laakso
 

Bob, the end cars on the two tracks closest to the freight house appear to be refrigerator cars while the 5th car over is a Great Northern truss rod boxcar with its end door showing.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

 

How about this example?

Oregon Short Line Freight House

A 1912 photo from the University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=527642&page=15&facet_format_t=%22image%2Fjpeg%22&q=warehouse

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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