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Re: Westerfield NB box car

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Great job Clark.  I hope mine looks half that good when finished.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com>
Date: 3/24/20 12:10 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car

Models finished.
CW Propst


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Clark Propst
 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:48 PM, Dave Parker wrote:
Clark, I assume that you have a 4598 (there is no 4500 series). 
Checked the box label again 4498. I'll mail it to anyone who wants it for shipping  ;  ))
CW Propst


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Clark Propst
 

Models finished.
CW Propst


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Benjamin Hom
 

Clark Propst asked:
"I 'think' Accurail makes a DMIR model?"

Kit number 4506:


"I'll make the choice of building it as DMIR or just cutting off the roof to use another time."

Harvesting the roof is always a legit use for these kits.


Ben Hom


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Dave Parker
 

I just purchased a 41xx kit for the expressed purpose of harvesting the roof.  It's the best feature of these cars (IMO).
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Paging Steve Horsley

Bill Welch
 

If Steve Horsley is on this list will you please contact me off list at fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com 

Thank you Steve!

Bill Welch


Re: To quote Robert Duvall from "Apocalypse Now," . . .

Bill Welch
 

Not really, i wanted to leave the blackened chain unpainted so i mask it and painted the brake rod and the homemade eye bolt on each end. The eye bolt will fit into a hole already drilled in the brake gear housing while the brake rod will slip into the clevis on the bottom of the end.

Bill Welch


WESTERFIELD NYC BOX CAR

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


_._,_._,_

Nearing completion.  Now that I am in JAIL for who knows how long  I can complete the underbody.

Bill Pardie


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Clark Propst
 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:29 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
A quick look at RMJ and MRG articles turned up a photo of DMIR 3328 (pg 11) at this link: 
Ben Hom
Thank you Ben and everyone. I 'think' Accurail makes a DMIR model? I'll make the choice of building it as DMIR or just cutting off the roof to use another time.
CW Propst


Re: To quote Robert Duvall from "Apocalypse Now," . . .

vapeurchapelon
 

Again, nothing short of stunning! What a beautiful car.
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. März 2020 um 18:37 Uhr
Von: "Bill Welch" <fgexbill@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] To quote Robert Duvall from "Apocalypse Now," . . .
. . . "I love the smell of Microscale's Micro Sole and Micro Set in the morning." For example here is my kit-bashed Missouri-Kansas-Texas Company Shops 1943-built War Emergency boxcar. It was primed with Badger;s Stynylrez Neutral Yellow Primer and then painted with Badger's M-K-T Yellow. Decals are from Speedwitch Media. I am very happy with the way this has turned out. I am especially digging the klassic klassy "Klasing" handbrake gear and brake wheel.

Bill Welch


Re: dimensional standard?

vapeurchapelon
 

Doug,
 
many thanks. I already received a Pdf from Jack, thankfully.
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. März 2020 um 21:59 Uhr
Von: "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

Johannes it can be found in the group files. I posted it there years ago.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

Hello Jack,

 

please allow to chime in with the question where I can find the complete article. I would be very interested to learn more about brake systems as I have several freight car models with seemingly senseless arrangement of parts.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Johannes

 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. März 2020 um 21:00 Uhr
Von: "Jack Burgess" <jack@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

Schuyler…

 

Attached is page 2 from Gene Green extensive article on Air Brakes. The closest that I can get from the air hose brackets to the Kadee #158 scale head couplers is 16”.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:44 PM
To: realSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

I’ve always eyeballed the offset from the car centerline for the air hose brackets.  It’s usually been known to not be accurate anyway, since the coupler pocket’s too wide to allow it to be properly located.

 

But now that Kadee 262 Narrow Whisker pockets allow us to get a lot closer to reality, I’m moved to ask if there was (is?) an AAR standard dimension.  What can the members of this list tell me?

Schuyler

 

 


Re: dimensional standard?

vapeurchapelon
 

Rufus,

many thanks for these links! Definitely worth saving!

Johannes

Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. März 2020 um 21:52 Uhr
Von: "Rufus Cone" <rclist09@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

The three volume series called Chalk Talks Air Brake Study Course are
available for full view at Hathi Trust.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?field1=ocr;q1=railroad%20air%20brakes%20chalk%20talk;a=srchls;lmt=ft

also the 1919 Car Builders' Cyclopedia

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006057858&view=1up&seq=5

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT





Can you identify this for me?

Jim Hayes
 

I found this stock car body buried in some air brushing equipment. I can't find a box for it and have no idea what it is.
Can you help me. It appears to be a quality kit. One of the few I've seen with a fully slatted end.

Jim Hayes


Re: dimensional standard?

Douglas Harding
 

Johannes it can be found in the group files. I posted it there years ago.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

Hello Jack,

 

please allow to chime in with the question where I can find the complete article. I would be very interested to learn more about brake systems as I have several freight car models with seemingly senseless arrangement of parts.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Johannes

 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. März 2020 um 21:00 Uhr
Von: "Jack Burgess" <jack@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

Schuyler…

 

Attached is page 2 from Gene Green extensive article on Air Brakes. The closest that I can get from the air hose brackets to the Kadee #158 scale head couplers is 16”.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:44 PM
To: realSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

I’ve always eyeballed the offset from the car centerline for the air hose brackets.  It’s usually been known to not be accurate anyway, since the coupler pocket’s too wide to allow it to be properly located.

 

But now that Kadee 262 Narrow Whisker pockets allow us to get a lot closer to reality, I’m moved to ask if there was (is?) an AAR standard dimension.  What can the members of this list tell me?

Schuyler

 


Re: dimensional standard?

Rufus Cone
 

The three volume series called Chalk Talks Air Brake Study Course are available for full view at Hathi Trust.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?field1=ocr;q1=railroad%20air%20brakes%20chalk%20talk;a=srchls;lmt=ft

also the 1919 Car Builders' Cyclopedia

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006057858&view=1up&seq=5

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: dimensional standard?

Jack Burgess
 

Note that the air hose bracket is to be angled 30 degrees off of vertical.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of earlyrail
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:05 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

Yes there is.

From the 1940 Car Builders Cyc, page 980 there are location dimensions for the angle cock.

 

for Wood underframe car   13" from  center-line

for steel underframe car built after 1916  15"

for new cars with 20" couplers 15 1/2"

 

Howard Garner


Re: dimensional standard?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thank you, Jack, appreciated.  One of the things that happens over time is you forget all the references you have to work with, and I do have this one.  Thanks for pointing it out.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

Schuyler…

 

Attached is page 2 from Gene Green extensive article on Air Brakes. The closest that I can get from the air hose brackets to the Kadee #158 scale head couplers is 16”.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:44 PM
To: realSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

I’ve always eyeballed the offset from the car centerline for the air hose brackets.  It’s usually been known to not be accurate anyway, since the coupler pocket’s too wide to allow it to be properly located.

 

But now that Kadee 262 Narrow Whisker pockets allow us to get a lot closer to reality, I’m moved to ask if there was (is?) an AAR standard dimension.  What can the members of this list tell me?

Schuyler


Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

mel perry
 

gotta luv the bottom feeder speculators
mel perry


Re: dimensional standard?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Jack,
 
please allow to chime in with the question where I can find the complete article. I would be very interested to learn more about brake systems as I have several freight car models with seemingly senseless arrangement of parts.
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. März 2020 um 21:00 Uhr
Von: "Jack Burgess" <jack@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

Schuyler…

 

Attached is page 2 from Gene Green extensive article on Air Brakes. The closest that I can get from the air hose brackets to the Kadee #158 scale head couplers is 16”.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:44 PM
To: realSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] dimensional standard?

 

I’ve always eyeballed the offset from the car centerline for the air hose brackets.  It’s usually been known to not be accurate anyway, since the coupler pocket’s too wide to allow it to be properly located.

 

But now that Kadee 262 Narrow Whisker pockets allow us to get a lot closer to reality, I’m moved to ask if there was (is?) an AAR standard dimension.  What can the members of this list tell me?

Schuyler

 


Re: dimensional standard?

earlyrail
 

Yes there is.
From the 1940 Car Builders Cyc, page 980 there are location dimensions for the angle cock.

for Wood underframe car   13" from  center-line
for steel underframe car built after 1916  15"
for new cars with 20" couplers 15 1/2"

Howard Garner