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Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Jim,

Silver Streak was a line of wood-sided freight cars, mostly boxcars, cabooses, a few refrigerators, and a Hart convertible gondola. The cars had scribed and pre-painted plywood sides and unpainted diecast ends, underframes, brake parts and doors that were applied to a wooden core: typical construction for the 1950s when they were introduced. As was common in those days the cars were pretty generic, and didn't really represent their purported prototypes. For example, the D&RGW "Cookie Box" they offered should have had steel sides, not wooden, and the paint was white rather than silver. The line was acquired by Walthers in the early 1970s, but was retired a few years later when they bought the Train Miniature plastic freight car line.

By the way, some of the cars I built just before the Walthers take-over were painted with Ulrich 410M, and this was specified in the instructions. This paint brand had disappeared some years before. It wasn't always easy to match the sides with Floquil.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 6:11 PM Jim Allen <jimp72@...> wrote:
Who or what is this “Silver Streak”?
--
Jim Allen
Utah


Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Jim Allen
 

Who or what is this “Silver Streak”?
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Jim Allen
Utah


Re: Image of PMcK&Y 63449 hopper at coal mine

Wallace Steinbrecher
 

But it was a great shot of some B&O hoppers!

Wallace Steinbrecher

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:16 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Oops, wrong link!
 
Try the link below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Image of PMcK&Y 63449 hopper at coal mine

Hi List Members,
 
Image of PMcK&Y 63449 hopper at coal mine
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

gary laakso
 

From the passenger car list.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: PassengerCarList@groups.io <PassengerCarList@groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:01 PM
To: PassengerCarList@groups.io
Subject: [PassengerCarList] News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Per a post on Railway Preservation News' Interchange discussion board (http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=1), long-time list PassengerCarList member Dr. Denny Anspach, one of the founders of the California State Railroad Museum, is in hospice in Sacramento with an inoperable throat tumor.

In addition to having been an active participant on this list, Denny is known to many for his work as Chair of the California State Railroad Museum's Collections Committee. More than that, he worked tirelessly in shaping its development since its inception.

I'd invite those of us inclined toward prayer to include one for Denny.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Thanks for the help on Unit truck request

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks for all of the good (and quick) responses on my truck question. With so many made and sold I am amazed that I don't recall ever hearing of this brand of freight car truck. I am impressed on how much we can learn from this group.
Thanks all,

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Bob Chaparro
 

A repost of a Chuck Zeiler photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckzeiler/26329487085/in/album-72157650922113005/

CB&Q Class XM-32A 37000

Caption: "Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad Class XM-32A 37000, photographer, date, and location unknown, scan by Chuck Zeiler. This is a photo of a page in a trade publication, I believe Railway Age. Apparently, a CB&Q boxcar was painted green well before the BN merger. This car was built at CB&Q's Havelock, Nebraska shops in July 1948."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

brianleppert@att.net
 

Here's photos of a CB&Q Truck No. 67 at the North Dakota State RR Museum in Mandan, ND.  Unit Truck offered several different side frame castings with Unit Truck's unique features cast on.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Jerry Hamsmith
 

Eric -

Those cars in the series with wood floors had a smaller IH than those with a steel floor (4' 4" versus 4' 8") and a smaller cubic capacity.  Each ORER noted the existence of the difference in the series and had a footnote listing the specific cars with the wood floors.  The October, 1951 ORER (the date of the photo of 751478) does not list that number.  So, yes, it would be a steel floor car.  My understanding is that all cars got the reinforcement angle, but I am not certain.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

From the 1940 CBC

 

 

 

 

And here is a page from the 1946 CBC

 

 

Steve Hile

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Bruce Smith
 

Dave,

Is it equipped with the correct Unit Truck? ;)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Sep 17, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!
 
Dave Lotz



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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Dave Lotz
 

Hi all,

 

In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!

 

Dave Lotz




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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

np328
 

Correction to the coal comment - it is Anthracite coal.  Oh well, wife likes it, I get to walk in and smell a coal fire.      JD


Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Andy Carlson
 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

Inline image

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

np328
 

Just looked at Google Maps street view .......Garth, it is gone, gone, gone. One of the open fields. 
I will find an older map of Duluth /Superior and upload the image or put in into the files. 

Non railroad story here: My late brother and I used to tent camp up on the north shore of Lake Superior at times into December. More than once we stopped by C Reiss in Superior on the way north and gathered some of the briquettes that had escaped the property line cyclone fence meant to contain them along the public road.  Once a fire was started we would toss several into the campfire. The heat was truly intense, and often very welcome.  I have to agree with Dennis though as when the briquettes were tossed in and just starting, the smoke of the fire had a definite petroleum stink. 

On the hand - after a vaccine and travel can be done freely and safely again, if you ever get to Minneapolis, try this place  https://blacksheeppizza.com/     coal fired pizza, not cheap but for all the (here comes the railroad content) stories of locomotive coal shovel chefs you've read about, this place uses Bituminous coal to cook with.  Very good.  I'm sure there are others. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN 


SOLD: 4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

Andy Carlson
 

I am out of the parts posted for sale earlier today.
Thanks, everyone!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA









Re: Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine

Eric Hansmann
 

Claus,

 

The image features several B&O hoppers. From left to right are the following.

B&O 32XXXX - N-12e twin hopper
B&O 532495 - W-2a class
B&O 431735 - W-2b class
B&O 430677 - W-2b class

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:04 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine

 

Hi List Members,

 

Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine. B&O 430677 appears to be a class W-2B hopper.

 

 

Enjoy!

 

CLaus Schlund

 


Re: NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Eric Hansmann
 

Jerry, that image of NYC 751478 is interesting. The car may have had a steel floor installed to replace the wood floor installed previously. The reinforcement angle on the top of the car side may be a clue.

 

But the car has retained a vertical brake staff through the years. I had thought the AAR mandated geared handbrake wheels for cars rebuilt after 1937.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hamsmith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

 

As the new RCW kit for these cars are now being shipped, I was wondering if anyone had additional photos of the cars.  The RCW site has three builder's photos of the cars when they were in the 324000 series.  There is also one photo of the car (#751478) after the drop doors were removed from the cars during World War II in a refurbishing effort.  The cars so modified were place into the 751000 series and these are the cars the kit covers.
I have looked for additional photos of the cars but so far have been unable to find any.  I do have the diagram sheet from the NYC site but was unable to find additional photos there.  Thanks in advance for looking.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: 4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

O Fenton Wells
 

Andy I'll take 3 sets of the ladders and 2 sets of ends and one of the brakes. I'll send a check for 27.50.
Thanks
Fenton

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:51 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Hello-

Intermountain's new policy this year to refuse selling parts has just cemented my reasons for limiting my parts selling. I have a few remaining items which I am going to offer to folks of this list.

I have a few IMRC 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends of the slightly narrower top rib and no poling pockets. Many of us would recognize this end as being for a 10'6" Inside height car. Debuting in 1944, this has a recess on the top rib for the power brake housing on the 'B' end.

I also have for 10'6" IH cars 8-rung ladders, also from Intermountain. These were tooled for their Canadian version of the 10'6" modified AAR box car. Each set has 4 of the 8-rung ladders, two with the corner sill steps integral with the ladders. Also included are 8 bracket grabs. The tooling used for the production of these ladders were still fresh and no flash is present.

The parts for the power brake details show no flash, which is good for Intermountain, as many times their Ajax brake wheels have flash partially and often fully filling in the holes in the hubs. This set of parts include 2 corner sill steps each of 45 degree bent style and square corner style. 4 route placards for doors, Ajax power housing with chain and rod, Ajax brake wheel, brake release rod and valve.

Prices are:

$4.50 for the 4/4 IDE per pair
$4.50 for the 8-rung ladders
$1.00 for the power brake detail set

Shipping is $4 flat rate for one or dozens.

I do not have a list of parts. Contact me off-list (Please) for info at <midcentury@...>

I accept checks and money orders. with a small fee PayPal is welcomed, and F-t-F PayPal is the same total as check.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA









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4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

Intermountain's new policy this year to refuse selling parts has just cemented my reasons for limiting my parts selling. I have a few remaining items which I am going to offer to folks of this list.

I have a few IMRC 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends of the slightly narrower top rib and no poling pockets. Many of us would recognize this end as being for a 10'6" Inside height car. Debuting in 1944, this has a recess on the top rib for the power brake housing on the 'B' end.

I also have for 10'6" IH cars 8-rung ladders, also from Intermountain. These were tooled for their Canadian version of the 10'6" modified AAR box car. Each set has 4 of the 8-rung ladders, two with the corner sill steps integral with the ladders. Also included are 8 bracket grabs. The tooling used for the production of these ladders were still fresh and no flash is present.

The parts for the power brake details show no flash, which is good for Intermountain, as many times their Ajax brake wheels have flash partially and often fully filling in the holes in the hubs. This set of parts include 2 corner sill steps each of 45 degree bent style and square corner style. 4 route placards for doors, Ajax power housing with chain and rod, Ajax brake wheel, brake release rod and valve.

Prices are:

$4.50 for the 4/4 IDE per pair
$4.50 for the 8-rung ladders
$1.00 for the power brake detail set

Shipping is $4 flat rate for one or dozens.

I do not have a list of parts. Contact me off-list (Please) for info at <midcentury@...>

I accept checks and money orders. with a small fee PayPal is welcomed, and F-t-F PayPal is the same total as check.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA







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