A friend contacted me about some excess HO scale freight car shells he found in storage. These are CB&T Shops kit shells only, and the version before the cast-on details were added. See the attached for a look. He wants only postage to move these along. Contact me OFF LIST at my email address below and I will forward your message.

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Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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Don,

D&H had 10 50-foot double-door boxcars in series 25000-25009. These were ex-PRR cars. I don't know when the D&H bought them, but they are in my October 1958 ORER. They had special racks for automobile radiators, in other words, in auto parts service. One is preserved on the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley. My photo was taken in the early 1990s when the museum equipment was stored in Oneonta.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff 🦆

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:56 AM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some

further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers

of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 

specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern

New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the

region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 

used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,

AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 

the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 

of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 

the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 

50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 

with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 

speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 

what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 

Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 

Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 

period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 

Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 

for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine

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     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some

further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers

of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 

specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern

New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the

region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 

used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,

AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 

the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 

of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 

the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 

50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 

with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 

speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 

what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 

Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 

Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 

period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 

Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 

for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine

Specifically, the 200 Fe-24 delivered for passenger service came with the Allied Full Cushion. The other 300 came with Barber S2 trucks. When 100 of these were modified for passenger service some got A-3 trucks. And most of the original passenger service cars either traded with the remaining freight ones or received A-3 trucks. All the Allied full Cushions disappeared in the late 40s. There are pictures of Fe-24 cars with other experimental trucks in the late 40s, these were short lived one shots.

Jim Gates

On Friday, April 24, 2020, 05:59:04 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Todd Sullivan wrote:

I have been looking on the web for several days trying to find clear photos of Santa Fe's class Fe-24 and Fe-28 50' double door boxcars.  I have a kit for each (P2K for Fe-24, Branchline for Fe-28), and I need to know what kind of trucks each one had, and check out other details before I proceed with the builds.

    The FE-24 cars got ASF A-3 trucks later (many were delivered with Allied Full Cushion). The -28s were delivered with A-3. This from the Hendrickson book on ATSF auto cars.

Tony Thompson

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