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Boxcars Labeled "Vehicle" Or "Carriage"

Bob Chaparro
 

Boxcars Labeled "Vehicle" Or "Carriage"

The attached photo Pere Marquette Boxcar 42794 is the only one I've seen of a boxcar labeled "Vehicle".

I was told such a label was not all that uncommon around 1900 and that some boxcars were labeled "Carriage" as well because their usual loads were wagons and carriages. This was slightly before the popular introduction of horseless carriages.

Has anyone see more examples of these "Vehicle" boxcars or the even more elusive "Carriage" boxcars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: LVTs was SHPX ORER help needed

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 
Edited

They float, so they need the internal volume to displace the water.

Compare to the Duplex drive Sherman with the folding canvas screens.

The weight of US WWII combat vehicles was limited by the capacity of the ship cranes, about 20 tons.

This is one of the reasons the US did not field a heavy tank, they did not  have a way to transport them.

-Hudson


LVTs was SHPX ORER help needed

Bruce Smith
 

LVTs make excellent steam era freight car loads. In HO scale, the LVT(a)-4 and LVT-4 are produced by Artitec. Here are one each, test loaded on a P2K flat car. What is interesting to me is the sheer size of these vehicles compared to the Sherman tank, for example.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:12 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SHPX ORER help needed
 
Minor point …

The LVT4 had no significant gun nor armor. It was an open-top troop transport vehicle, with a stern ramp.

The first successful LVT was the LVT1 that was a militarized version of an amphibious swamp buggy, the “Alligator”. The LVT1 completely changed amphibious assaults, but as a military vehicle it left a LOT to be desired. Among other problems, it had no stern ramp (Marines had to jump over the side to get out). It was soon followed by a much improved version, the LVT2 which also lacked a stern ramp.

The came the LVT4 which did include a stern ramp making for safer and faster exit.

The need for firepower resulted in the so called “Amtanks” with gun turrets and some (not much) armor. First were the LVTA-1 (37mm gun), and later  LVTA-4 (75mm short barreled howitzer).

All these types saw considerable service in the pacific invasions. The later LVT4 and LVTA-4 were mainly used at Iwo Jima and Okinawa.

Dan Mitchell


Re: Kits for sale

gastro42000 <martincooper@...>
 

On May 22, 2020 at 5:38 PM bnpmodeler <bnchmark63@comcast.net> wrote:
hi: please send list. Thanks. Marty Cooper

Greetings group;

I have a bunch of unwanted kits for sale from most of the major producers including Sunshine, Speedwitch, F&C, Westerfield and others, available for bargain prices. If you would like a copy of the list (which is a Word document) please reply to me OFF-LIST at bnchmark63_AT_Comcast_DOT_net. As it is a holiday weekend, I will do my best to get the list to you in a timely fashion but do know that nothing can ship until mid-next week at the earliest. I will accept checks, money orders and PayPal (friends & family), and will ship via USPS Priority Mail, ONLY, with postage paid by the purchaser. I will be happy to ship internationally but be advised shipping has risen dramatically recently. This is a Covid- and smoke-free home. I look forward to hearing from anyone interested, and be sure to include a shipping address for accurate postage quoting. Thanks in advance;

Jim Harr
High Bridge, NJ



Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Schuyler Larrabee
 

My first email to him was four weeks ago . . .

 

No Response.

 

S

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Use the email address on the website 

Shaun is usually pretty good at returning emails 



On May 22, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


CORRECTED COPY Re: [RealSTMFC] USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Ed Sutorik asked:
"I'm having trouble seeing where the Atlas rebuilt USRA cars are wrong for the SL-SF 127000-130499 cars.  They look to match in the photos.  What am I missing?"

The Atlas models with Murphy roof, 8-panel sides, 5/5/5 Murphy ends, and fishbelly underframe are closest to the SL-SF and ACL/C&WC rebuilds; however, the side sills are poorly rendered, with incorrect support brackets and too-shallow relief.  Your call if this bothers you, but at these models' high MSRP (exceeding the Sunshine kits original MSRP and on par with Funaro's current prices), it makes them a poor value.


Ben Hom


Re: Rutland Stock Car in Neutral Yellow Primer

Dave Parker
 

Bill:

Looks great as always.  My only question is do you plan to do anything about the uniformly scribed roofing (basically V-groove siding), that really doesn't look like the prototype roof at all?  See attached pic of R 1906 off to the left.  Other than rebuilding it board-by-board, have you given any thought as to how it might be improved?

With best regards.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

spsalso
 

Brian,


I'm having trouble seeing where the Atlas rebuilt USRA cars are wrong for the SL-SF 127000-130499 cars.  They look to match in the photos.  What am I missing?


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Kits for sale

bnpmodeler
 

Greetings group;

I have a bunch of unwanted kits for sale from most of the major producers including Sunshine, Speedwitch, F&C, Westerfield and others, available for bargain prices. If you would like a copy of the list (which is a Word document) please reply to me OFF-LIST at bnchmark63_AT_Comcast_DOT_net. As it is a holiday weekend, I will do my best to get the list to you in a timely fashion but do know that nothing can ship until mid-next week at the earliest. I will accept checks, money orders and PayPal (friends & family), and will ship via USPS Priority Mail, ONLY, with postage paid by the purchaser. I will be happy to ship internationally but be advised shipping has risen dramatically recently. This is a Covid- and smoke-free home. I look forward to hearing from anyone interested, and be sure to include a shipping address for accurate postage quoting. Thanks in advance;

Jim Harr
High Bridge, NJ


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

fire5506
 

Try Minuteman again,

 This is on their website.
"
Covid-19
Covid-19 Update

 


Company Status - COVID-19 Update (5/19/2020)

 

 

 


MinuteMan Scale Models has resumed operations after our limited operations due to Covid-19

Orders are bening handled on a first come, first served basis. Please expect delays from shipping carriers, especially for shipments to Canada.

Also please anticipate delayed response times for emails and phones. We are working to go through and respond to all emails and voicemails, but this will take some time.

MinuteMan Scale Models is a small family run business, we only have one full time employee (myself) and 3 part time employees, my parents and my daughter.
As you may expect after being closed for 2 months our production of paint will be affected, we will get back to normal production in the coming weeks.

 

You can still place orders online, but please expect delays on shipping.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Thank you for your understanding and patience.

 

Our thoughts and prayers are with you, your families, our first responders and all those essential employees on the frontlines."


 

Thank you for your interest in our products.


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Joseph
 

Scale model supplies in St. Paul mn
651-646-7781
Joe Binish

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Dave Pfeiffer <dave.pfeiffer@...> wrote:

Schuyler,

 

Have you checked the supplier directly?  WWW.MINUTEMANSCALEMODELS.COM.  They are the makers of Scalecoat.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 3:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

1)     Might carry Scalecoat 1 and

2)     have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Pierre Oliver
 

Use the email address on the website 
Shaun is usually pretty good at returning emails 

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


On May 22, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Schuyler,

 

Have you checked the supplier directly?  WWW.MINUTEMANSCALEMODELS.COM.  They are the makers of Scalecoat.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 3:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

1)     Might carry Scalecoat 1 and

2)     have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Need Scalecoat paint

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need WLE/NKP 24200-24501 series help

Ray Breyer
 

Hi Jim, 

Photos (including 11 P-S builder's images) heading your way off list.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Friday, May 22, 2020, 02:14:34 PM CDT, Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:


Several years ago, I produced an HO Tennessee Central boxcar as-delivered in 1941 with flat, riveted roof and with what most modelers know as PS-0 ends (correct nomenclature is “proprietary Pullman Corrugated Ends”).  W&LE also had a small fleet of these cars with the same body style but with different doors and appliances.  The W&LE cars were gradually repainted into NKP following leasing of W&LE but kept the same numbers.

 

I am considering upscaling the CAD files and offering in S, maybe O, but need photos of the NKP cars before deciding to move forward.  Can someone point me to a source for photos of NKP cars in the 24200-24501 series?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


Need WLE/NKP 24200-24501 series help

Jim King
 

Several years ago, I produced an HO Tennessee Central boxcar as-delivered in 1941 with flat, riveted roof and with what most modelers know as PS-0 ends (correct nomenclature is “proprietary Pullman Corrugated Ends”).  W&LE also had a small fleet of these cars with the same body style but with different doors and appliances.  The W&LE cars were gradually repainted into NKP following leasing of W&LE but kept the same numbers.

 

I am considering upscaling the CAD files and offering in S, maybe O, but need photos of the NKP cars before deciding to move forward.  Can someone point me to a source for photos of NKP cars in the 24200-24501 series?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 09:16 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
I gather that rebuilt USRA double 
sheathed cars are those with eight panels per side while those with ten panels 
per side are rebuilt from double sheathed cars of a different design, and 
therefore different framing, than the USRA cars. Does anyone know if this is 
correct?
Don, You do realize that the USRA double sheathed car has a wood frame, so there was no framing to be saved. YSDCo. just viewed the underframe (which did have steel side sills) as a raft upon which to build a new box. And since the new boxes were built to the same width as the new 1932 ARA car, none of the framing from the various steel framed single sheathed cars was salvageable, either. The increased width is the reason the side posts look like they are mounted on brackets - they are. There is also either a step in the side at the corner post, to match the old narrower end (common on rebuilds of DS cars) or wide formed angles riveted over the corners of the even narrower ends used on SS cars. I'm no expert on YSDCo. production, but any changes in sheathing patterns and post count were made for reasons other than differences in the donor cars being rebuilt.

I agree that the Atlas model misses the mark in a number of areas; first off, I recall the underframe is too wide, and so misses the correct body too wide for the frame look. I also recall they screwed up the Murphy panel roof, bringing the raised portion of the panel all the way to the edge of the sheet.

Stick with the Sunshine kits.

Dennis Storzek
 


Rutland Stock Car in Neutral Yellow Primer

Bill Welch
 

Using a photo of Rutland stock car #1960 to guide me I have detailed and damaged this F&C kit. So that I could damage the upper boards I substituted styrene strip of the same size—hopefully avoiding Narrow Gauge Damage Syndrome. Along the lower sill I have used Brass NBW's to model the loosened hardware intended to tighten the ends of the bolsters against the sill as seen in my photo. Also along the bottom are devices I think are intended to permit the vertical braces tight. For these I used Plastruct .025 Rod and harvested Detail Associates NBW's on the each end of the rod. These are inserted into holes along the bottom of the sill. The prototype photo shows that the bolts used to connect the braces to the side sheathing are countersunk, I assume to make it easier to slide the door open. Again I used Plastruct rod topped with harvested Athearn rivets. Although a fair amount of fiddly work, I really like the result. Let me know if you have questions.

Model On!
Bill Welch


Re: B&M Freight Equipment

James Brewer
 

Ken,

From the July 1958 ORER.

Jim Brewer


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Brian Carlson
 

As discussed innumerable times on the list the Atlas rebuild is a mongrel that matches nothing out of the box.  It’s a tooling that should be thrown away. 

The tichy rebuild is good for P&LE. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On May 22, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io 

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