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naptownprr
 

I suggest you contact the WM Historical society.


Jim Hunter


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The WM boxcar book only has one image of a cat with the early WM emblem. It’s a fuzzy angled shot. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 30, 2020, at 8:12 PM, San Antonio & San Francisco <sanantonio-sanfrancisco@...> wrote:

Hey Y'all,

I need some help. I'm in the hunt for 1900-1914 Western Maryland rolling stock photos, in particular, boxcars, that have the Western Maryland Button Logo, which is the MW inside a circle. if you have a picture of any rolling stock, would you please kindly share.

Thank you,

Levi Matthews


Re: Looking for...

Eric Hansmann
 

The WM boxcar book only has one image of a cat with the early WM emblem. It’s a fuzzy angled shot. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 30, 2020, at 8:12 PM, San Antonio & San Francisco <sanantonio-sanfrancisco@...> wrote:

Hey Y'all,

I need some help. I'm in the hunt for 1900-1914 Western Maryland rolling stock photos, in particular, boxcars, that have the Western Maryland Button Logo, which is the MW inside a circle. if you have a picture of any rolling stock, would you please kindly share.

Thank you,

Levi Matthews


Re: Looking for...

Eric Hansmann
 

I’ve got a builders photo of a double-sheathed 36-ft WM boxcar with a fish belly center sill. It’s a Standard Steel Car Company product built in 1905. There isn’t an emblem on the car. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 30, 2020, at 8:12 PM, San Antonio & San Francisco <sanantonio-sanfrancisco@...> wrote:

Hey Y'all,

I need some help. I'm in the hunt for 1900-1914 Western Maryland rolling stock photos, in particular, boxcars, that have the Western Maryland Button Logo, which is the MW inside a circle. if you have a picture of any rolling stock, would you please kindly share.

Thank you,

Levi Matthews


Looking for...

San Antonio & San Francisco <sanantonio-sanfrancisco@...>
 

Hey Y'all,

I need some help. I'm in the hunt for 1900-1914 Western Maryland rolling stock photos, in particular, boxcars, that have the Western Maryland Button Logo, which is the MW inside a circle. if you have a picture of any rolling stock, would you please kindly share.

Thank you,

Levi Matthews


Re: Rio Grande Models

Jack Burgess
 

Not that I’ve heard of.

 

Jack

 

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Has anyone bought the line?

 

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

 

 

On Thursday, July 30, 2020, 06:12:18 PM CDT, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:

 

 

Yes, closed and completely sold out.


Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Steve SANDIFER
 

This was clearly before OSHA.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Probably few if any will model it.  Would most likely have to be a stub end part of some diorama to do it right.  But I do love the American ingenuity to find workable solutions to the realities of the day.  I also love that in the photograph, the ice ramp is crossing over several non-refrigerated car roofs to get to the reefers that needed icing.  My kind of engineering - find a way to make it work !

 

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


Re: Two new decal sets available from Missouri Pacific Historical Society 45’ gondolas and 45’ and 50’ flatcars

hubert mask
 

Try again to get them.   I plan on posting them on my web site but thought of letting the MOPAC group sell them first.

Hubert Mask 
Mask
 Island Decals.


On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Ed Sutorik wrote:

I tried ordering a couple of decals, and the website had me going around in circles.
I tried doing a contact, and it refused to accept input.
I'd still like to buy the decals.

   I had the same experience, Ed, and got totally frustrated. But I had a cup of coffee, settled my nerves, and tried again. It worked okay the second time. Don't ask me to explain.

Tony Thompson




Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Brent Greer
 

Probably few if any will model it.  Would most likely have to be a stub end part of some diorama to do it right.  But I do love the American ingenuity to find workable solutions to the realities of the day.  I also love that in the photograph, the ice ramp is crossing over several non-refrigerated car roofs to get to the reefers that needed icing.  My kind of engineering - find a way to make it work !

Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


Re: Two new decal sets available from Missouri Pacific Historical Society 45’ gondolas and 45’ and 50’ flatcars

Tony Thompson
 

Ed Sutorik wrote:

I tried ordering a couple of decals, and the website had me going around in circles.
I tried doing a contact, and it refused to accept input.
I'd still like to buy the decals.

   I had the same experience, Ed, and got totally frustrated. But I had a cup of coffee, settled my nerves, and tried again. It worked okay the second time. Don't ask me to explain.

Tony Thompson




Re: Rio Grande Models

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Has anyone bought the line?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Thursday, July 30, 2020, 06:12:18 PM CDT, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:


Yes, closed and completely sold out.


Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Tony Thompson
 

Jim Dick wrote:

And this other photo for our reefer fans: https://chicagopast.com/tagged/Millennium-Park    
An icing dock center and then ramps crossing from rooftop to rooftop of boxcars, to the reefers nearer. Even utilizing a running board along the way. 

     Okay, who's gonna model this arrangement?

Tony Thompson




Re: Rio Grande Models

Scott
 

Yes, closed and completely sold out.


Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

np328
 

  Some other photos of this immediate area found on the Chicago Past site
The South Water Street freight terminal from a different angle: https://chicagopast.com/post/34106990652
Again blue flags are seen.      
A comment - under the photos are live links that not only reference the area but link other photos by subject.   

A look from the other direction, camera aimed south, and I would imagine the the photographer is atop the Tribune Tower:https://chicagopast.com/tagged/Grant+Park/page/4
A link under the photo to Trains.    (Is the Tribune Tower where the "MEISTER BRAU SHOWCASE was broadcast from?)

And this other photo for our reefer fans: https://chicagopast.com/tagged/Millennium-Park    
An icing dock center and then ramps crossing from rooftop to rooftop of boxcars, to the reefers nearer. Even utilizing a running board along the way. 
Center left, whose round top car is that?      And a link under the photo to Rail Yards.  And John Vachon.                          Jim Dick - Roseville, MN






Rio Grande Models

Richard Townsend
 

I went to the Rio Grande Models website and was greeted with a giant "CLOSED" banner. Is this permanent?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR



Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 08:27 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:

On another group a person commented about this photo:

"Does the blue flag rule cover cars being loaded or unloaded? No.

Are/were blue flags used to protect cars being loaded or unloaded? Yes."
Comments?

I've seen this question kicked around before. Pertinent points:

1) The railroad rule books call this "Inspection and Repair Protection". Nothing about loading and unloading.
2) It is only defined in the railroad rulebook, not generally available to the customer's dock workers.
3) The railroad had a vested interest that the blue signal not be misused, so as not to dilute its meaning. That is difficult to enforce if the people hanging the signal are not railroad employees.

On the other hand, the industry could hang any sort of sign or marker on the cars spotted at their dock that they wanted. Signs that said "HOSES CONNECTED" were common. If they happened to be blue, well so be it. However, these signs were not technically blue signals as defined by Rule 26.

The blue flags visible in the Delano photo may represent a special case. This is a railroad freight house, so the dock workers ARE railroad employees. So indeed, the IC could have decided that Rule 26 did apply to the men loading the cars at a freight house.

Dennis Storzek


Photo: Thresher Loads On Flat Cars (1925)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Thresher Loads On Flat Cars (1925)

A photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM6801

Flat cars are unidentified.

McCormick-Deering all-steel threshers.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Unloading Logs On Flat Car (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Unloading Logs On Flat Car (Undated)

A photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM82991

The flat car is unidentified.

Interesting arrangement of temporary supports to direct the logs in the other direction for unloading.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Loading Oats Into Boxcars (1926)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Oats Into Boxcars (1926)

A 1926 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM49124

Looks like the man in the wagon is shoveling oats into the conveyor.

The grain door is a bit different from many others I have seen.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Mont Switzer
 

Bob,

 

In the world of bulk liquid and dry bulk it has been my experience that if hoses were hooked up the blue flat were in place before and after.

 

Mont

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

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On another group a person commented about this photo:

"Does the blue flag rule cover cars being loaded or unloaded? No.

Are/were blue flags used to protect cars being loaded or unloaded? Yes."
Comments?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Image of string of boxcars Chicago IL 1952

Bob Chaparro
 

On another group a person commented about this photo:

"Does the blue flag rule cover cars being loaded or unloaded? No.

Are/were blue flags used to protect cars being loaded or unloaded? Yes."
Comments?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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