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Re: Barriger Library AC&F Photos

Eric Hansmann
 

Interesting to see a 1943 build date on that USOX tank car. I did not know that design was used after the 1920s. I’m not used to seeing an AB brake system under a tank car like this.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Barriger Library AC&F Photos

 

Rob Simpson wrote:



I don't think I've seen an insulated tank like this USOX 17021. Tennessee Eastman Corp. Holston Ordanance Works nitric acid loading.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49618638478/in/album-72157649155982802/

 

     Used in the 1920s for heavy acids like nitric and sulfuric, supposedly to let vapors sink out the bottom. Or something. That explanation always seemed lacking to me. But they were common at one time.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 


Anyone recognize the car with the dark murphy end (black?) and light colored side
that the PRR X26 is coupled to? It could be a USRA double sheathed rebuild.

http://www.idaillinois.org/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=p16614coll41&CISOPTR=23&action=2&DMSCALE=200&DMWIDTH=1000&DMHEIGHT=1018&DMX=2500

Tim O'


On 4/23/2020 6:39 AM, Bill Welch wrote:
This photo is from a collection of about 120 photos made in the Wash. DC area in the postwar period, and owned by a person in the DC area. In the early 1990's I wrote the late Richard Hendrickson about collecting photos and in addition to the Ernest Stefan and Harold "Dusty" Miller collections at the NMRA this collection was on his suggestion list. There were other collections to of course but these have always stood out as wonderful resources.

I think the photos were made by Charles Wales. I bought the entire list of 4x5 prints and in theory they are still available. The NMRA has gone "Dark" regarding the Miller and Stafan Collection and NMRA members seem uninterested. 

Bill Welch

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

Sam Reynolds
 

Two fellow list members sent me copies of the attachment so I'm good to go. I did try what others suggested, but to no avail.

Sam


Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 

LOL !! :-D

But, if you search for "boxcar" there are a number of VERY nice box car photos

http://www.idaillinois.org/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=pshs&;CISOPTR=22222&action=2&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=2088&DMHEIGHT=1638

Tim O'Connor

On 4/22/2020 2:33 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Photo: PRR Boxcar

A photo for the Illinois Digital Archives:

http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16614coll41/id/23/rec/363

Description: "Photo of an XM type boxcar, an American Railroad Administration model that was used as the basis for the second type of Pullman troop transport."

I'm guessing the car number is 15466 but I'll let you folks with better monitors decipher the number.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

spsalso
 

Might be good to put it in the Files section, rather than have it as an attachment.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

vapeurchapelon
 

I think the cars may be Chinese prototype but lettered for "everything"?
 
Don't know...
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
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Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

spsalso
 

In my case, the list of posts shows the first post in this topic as having an attachment.   When I open that post, there isn't one.



Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

Eric Hansmann
 

Try downloading the PDF from the message first. Then open it from your computer.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Reynolds via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:26 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

 

I’m not sure if it’s a problem on my end or not, but I’m no longer able to open the PDF file that was attached to Bill’s message. Now when I click on the attachment I’m sent directly to the RealSTMFC homepage. I can open other message attachments (such as attached photos), but not Bill’s. Anyone else having this problem? I’d like to open the file so that I can save it. Thanks!

Sam Reynolds


Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

O Fenton Wells
 

The link wasn't correct.  You had to add a letter to the front of the link and paste it into your browser.  When correct id did take you to the STMFC site  Not sure I explained this correctly

Fenton


On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:26 AM Sam Reynolds via groups.io <monon=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
I’m not sure if it’s a problem on my end or not, but I’m no longer able to open the PDF file that was attached to Bill’s message. Now when I click on the attachment I’m sent directly to the RealSTMFC homepage. I can open other message attachments (such as attached photos), but not Bill’s. Anyone else having this problem? I’d like to open the file so that I can save it. Thanks!

Sam Reynolds



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Re: Notes on Using Archer's Surface Detail Decals: From the Boys. . .

Sam Reynolds
 

I’m not sure if it’s a problem on my end or not, but I’m no longer able to open the PDF file that was attached to Bill’s message. Now when I click on the attachment I’m sent directly to the RealSTMFC homepage. I can open other message attachments (such as attached photos), but not Bill’s. Anyone else having this problem? I’d like to open the file so that I can save it. Thanks!

Sam Reynolds


Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 02:13 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
I have tried a couple of times to correct misinformation and been ignored. I suspect they didn't know me from Adam, and didn't want to take the time verifying my corrections.
You've hit the nail on the head. The libraries that hold these images really know very little about them, and cataloging is typically work for interns. The caption is really just a description for the catalog, and should only be a general description of what the image shows, plus any information that was written on the print or negative... and that's where the problem comes in... if someone has written erroneous information on the photo, it is treated as primary source information. The person writing the descriptions really isn't competent to make a judgement. The descriptions aren't intended to educate, but simply allow the image to be found by scholars (and authors) who can then include it in a better researched work. The danger in allowing the description to be changed is that some of the primary source data may be lost and replaced with information that is also erroneous. Trying to get an institution to change a catalog description is like trying to correct erroneous information on the internet.  There are better uses for one's time.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Bill Welch
 

This photo is from a collection of about 120 photos made in the Wash. DC area in the postwar period, and owned by a person in the DC area. In the early 1990's I wrote the late Richard Hendrickson about collecting photos and in addition to the Ernest Stefan and Harold "Dusty" Miller collections at the NMRA this collection was on his suggestion list. There were other collections to of course but these have always stood out as wonderful resources.

I think the photos were made by Charles Wales. I bought the entire list of 4x5 prints and in theory they are still available. The NMRA has gone "Dark" regarding the Miller and Stafan Collection and NMRA members seem uninterested. 

Bill Welch


Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob,

I have tried a couple of times to correct misinformation and been ignored. I suspect they didn't know me from Adam, and didn't want to take the time verifying my corrections. Now I just grimace and move on.

I was very successful correcting a badly mislabeled photo in the UVA Special Collections and Archives, but I had worked with many of the librarians in that section and had done several special cataloging projects for them. They fixed the problem immediately.

I have also been ignored by at least two local California historical societies/museums to which I offered donations of really good materials appropriate to their collections. Curiously, I was a member of one of these groups, and my offer was ignored three times (another railroad museum gratefully took the material almost immediately). Several other historical societies have accepted my donations, but then didn't have the grace to thank me for the materials. In fairness, I must say I was well treated by many other groups. It's been a mixed bag. And as for acknowledgement of donations, I would rather have the material preserved, lack of thanks not withstanding.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:48 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Actually, I have had very good responses from the several photo archives I have worked with.
These include USC, County of Los Angeles Library, City of Los Angeles Library and several Southern California historical societies.
The organizations I have found very non-responsive are smaller museums around the country, and that probably is a staffing issue as Garth noted. I am a member of the Board of the Hemet Heritage Foundation, which operates the Hemet Museum in the old Santa Fe Depot. Staffing certainly is an issue for us as we are an all volunteer organization.
I also have had some good luck correcting misleading or erroneous narratives published by various historical societies. But sometimes not. I found a horribly wrong narrative on-line published by a historical society in the California Central Valley. The narrative concerned the citrus industry and the transportation of oranges, something I do have a little knowledge of. It was so out of wack I could not suggest edits so I suggested to the organization's president that the whole article be pulled. His response was, "We are aware the Mrs. ______ sometimes is inaccurate in her writings but she is the town's historian and prominent local figure so no one wants to upset her". 
I wonder how often that is the case?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Freight car kits for sale.

lsittler
 

Please send the list
 

From: Jared Harper
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:11 PM
To: Proto-Layouts@groups.io ; REALSTMFC@groups.io ; SantaFeRR@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Freight car kits for sale.
 
Email for kit list.
 
Jared Harper

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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Actually, I have had very good responses from the several photo archives I have worked with.
These include USC, County of Los Angeles Library, City of Los Angeles Library and several Southern California historical societies.
The organizations I have found very non-responsive are smaller museums around the country, and that probably is a staffing issue as Garth noted. I am a member of the Board of the Hemet Heritage Foundation, which operates the Hemet Museum in the old Santa Fe Depot. Staffing certainly is an issue for us as we are an all volunteer organization.
I also have had some good luck correcting misleading or erroneous narratives published by various historical societies. But sometimes not. I found a horribly wrong narrative on-line published by a historical society in the California Central Valley. The narrative concerned the citrus industry and the transportation of oranges, something I do have a little knowledge of. It was so out of wack I could not suggest edits so I suggested to the organization's president that the whole article be pulled. His response was, "We are aware the Mrs. ______ sometimes is inaccurate in her writings but she is the town's historian and prominent local figure so no one wants to upset her". 
I wonder how often that is the case?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


REVISED spreadsheet of double wood sheathed box cars rebuilt to steel sheathing

David
 

N&W 47500-47999 and 50000-50499 were rebuilds of steel-sheathed cars, so they don't fit on this particular list. PRR's X29 rebuilds and various roads' single-sheathed rebuilds shouldn't be in there either.

David Thompson


Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

Tony Thompson
 


Re: Walthers 40' gon

 

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Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Vera Mills
 

Hello,
I am still having trouble with an occasional attachment not opening but going to the home page instead.
In this case I wish to view the photograph of the Farmall tractors but cannot find it in the massages under message No.172001.
Thanks for any advice.
Regards,
Glen Mills

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