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Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks
Richard McQuade
I spent 2 summers in the big CPR freight sheds in Lambton Yard in Toronto. The bridge plates were used on a lot of the cars. The shed was long and cars were always beside each other on adjacent tracks because some destinations like Montreal Pool and Montreal Eaton's would load 2 or more cars with the outside car loaded first then the inside car because there was a lot of freight going there every day without exception. I seem to recall that they were at the west end of the shed where the switch lead was because it made more sense to have them at that end then to have them buried up against the track bumpers at the far (east) end of the freight shed. There were two shifts - "graveyard" (1130pm-8am) and day shift (8am-4:30pm). All cars had to be closed at the end of the day shift so that they could be shunted between 4:30-11:30pm. Some cars wouldn't be fully loaded but had to have bulkheads nailed inside to keep the load from shifting while the yard crew banged them around. If a car was loaded it was sealed at the end of the shift but semi-loaded cars just had their doors closed and latched. On a model railroad a large freight shed could keep a crew busy for a whole shift because loaded cars needed to be switched out and replaced with empty cars and semi-loaded cars had to be moved then brought back to their proper loading docks. That meant that not all cars on the inside track (closest to the shed) would be dragged out and sent away but that some would be and replaced with empties and some wouldn't be. Inbound freight to Toronto went to the King St. freight shed downtown. After those cars were unloaded and yarded they were sent up to us to be loaded. We didn't unload boxcars at Lambton, only loaded them from trucks that brought the freight to the shed.
Richard
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Re: Weathering powder binder
Aley, Jeff A
Rumor is that it’s makeup – same stuff that is used in cosmetics. What that stuff is, is an off-topic exercise for the reader 😊
Regards,
-Jeff
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:18 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder
Do you have any idea what Bragdon's adhesive might be? Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- My understanding is that Bragdon’s has an adhesive mixed in which is activated by pressure. Rubbing the powder generates the required pressure.
To my knowledge no other weathering powders have any kind of binder or adhesive.
Doug Harding
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On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: Photo: WP Boxcar 20807
Tony Thompson
Bob Chaparro wrote:
Ah, yes, the famous silver "feather" cars. There must be several thousand models in existence for every car that was on the prototype. Tony Thompson
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Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks
Los Angles Produce Terminal arrangement, but their 12 tracks were at an angle. Reefers could be unloaded 3 at a time using bridge plates between far 2. There was always one against a dock, 36 cars could be unloaded at the same time. Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA
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Re: former VGN cars?
gary laakso
More likely C&IM gondolas that were akin to the VGN types.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:09 PM To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] former VGN cars?
Hi List Members,
Are the six axle gons former VGN cars? If so, they are far from home.
More information can be found at the link below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: former VGN cars?
Judging by the appearance of those cars and the date of the picture, they could very well be Virginian “battleship gons” that were sold by the railroad and used as storage bins or scrapped. The railroad was decreasing the number of those cars in active service throughout the 1950s, and only a comparative few were left at the time of the merger with N&W. I believe the N&W got rid of the ones left within about 18 months.
C&IM had some similar looking cars, but they were 70 ton cars on 4 wheel trucks, IIRC. Frank Bongiovanni
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Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023
Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023 A 1940 builder's photo from the Illinois Digital Archives: http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/19536/rec/72 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: WP Boxcar 20807
Photos: WP Boxcar 20807 1951 builder's photos from the Illinois Digital Archives: http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/21885/rec/170 There is an additional photo referenced to the right of the photo box. Silver car with "Rides Like A Feather" logo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: former VGN cars?
Didn’t C&IM have some battleship gons?
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
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early CBQ cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Nice image of early CBQ cars...
More information can be found at the link below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Weathering powder binder
Richard Townsend
Do you have any idea what Bragdon's adhesive might be? Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 3:28 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder My understanding is that Bragdon’s has an adhesive mixed in which is activated by pressure. Rubbing the powder generates the required pressure.
To my knowledge no other weathering powders have any kind of binder or adhesive.
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Weight Of An Industrial Boiler?
Weight Of An Industrial Boiler? I have an HO scale Birchfield industrial fire tube boiler to use as a flat car or gondola load. It is a 3D printed model: This is a very large boiler. It scales out at roughly 18 feet long, 13 feet high and 8 feet wide. This photo shows as many as two of these large boilers and two smaller ones on a fifty-ton flat car: http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/15644/rec/1807 Out of curiosity, what would one of these larger boilers weight? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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former VGN cars?
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Are the six axle gons former VGN cars? If so, they are far from home.
More information can be found at the link below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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boxcars can be lined up on two tracks
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
At some industries, boxcars can be lined up on two tracks such that the far
car is accessed by walking thru the near car and then across a steel plate
serving as a bridge to get to the far car.
This can be seen nicely in he image below...
More information can be found at the link below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Weathering powder binder
My understanding is that Bragdon’s has an adhesive mixed in which is activated by pressure. Rubbing the powder generates the required pressure.
To my knowledge no other weathering powders have any kind of binder or adhesive.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: B&O P-25D in HO
Bruce Griffin
Jim,
Great looking model. Were these the cars modified for drywall loading? Bruce D. Griffin
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Re: B&O P-25D in HO
Jim,
Do you know why the decal film forms a 'shadow' around all of the lettering? Did you decal after the weathering of the areas where the decals are? Lighting? (Some times decals will reflect a flash when without that intensity of light you don't see them.) It is not obtrusive - I think it is a great looking car and would be happy to be able to say "I did this" of that car. Does any one know what service cars like this one were most likely used in? I'm referring to the low bulkhead ends. - Jim
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Weathering powder binder
Richard Townsend
Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: B&O P-25D in HO
Nice looking car Jim. Well done
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Re: Evemodel HO flat cars
IIRC The saying came about because the car would hold 40 men or 8 horses. Useful information for the military planners needing to move men and materials.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kai Solvei
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:24 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars
I couldn’t find that car, but old Norwegian boxcars used by the military (collapsible benches) had the marking “40 men or 8 horses” like this car built in 1899 and in traffic until 1960.
Kai Solvei Norway
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of pgrace via groups.io
Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well) The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.
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