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Re: My latest Covid build
Lester Breuer
Excellent build Fenton.
Lester Breuer
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Re: My latest Covid build
Todd Sullivan
Fenton -
That's a right nice looking car! Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise. The lettering says they were used for cement. Were they used for other commodities? Todd Sullivan
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My latest Covid build
Southern covered hopper by F&C . Light weathering as the car was 1951 and the era is about that time
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Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
John Barry
The line must be clearer in my Oct 44 edition. As Ben stated, the base kit is off, but as a stand in, it has a basis in reality in that it is at least the same type and configuration of car, albeit with more modern roof and ends. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 12:52:55 PM EDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:
Schuyler, I also found it hard to read that line in my ORER. Guess I need new glasses, LOL! I will do that as soon as we get to the point with the corona virus where I feel comfortable being close to an optician. Hope it's in the next couple of years! Todd Sullivan
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Re: ID needed
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
So the car was basically a SS car with an extra layer of sheathing INSIDE sandwiching the insulation? That ought to really cut down the capacity. An outside braced reefer was probably a limited design car I assume? Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 04:54:50 PM CDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy
R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?
Thanks for any help. oldline1
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Re: ID needed
Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy
R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?
Thanks for any help. oldline1
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ID needed
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?
Thanks for any help. oldline1
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Re: TNM hopper car suitable model
Todd Sullivan
Hi Nathan,
Roundhouse made a similar model but it had a variety of problems such as the enter outlet bay pointed in the wrong direction relative to the B end and minimal detailing. The Atlas model is much better, and probably close to the T-NM prototype. I have neither model, so I can't measure and compare them to the diagram. Perhaps someone else can do that. Todd Sullivan
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TNM hopper car suitable model
In 1953 the Texas New Mexico Railroad received 200 70-ton hopper cars (road numbers T-NM 100-299) (later T-NM 500000-500183) built by the Texas and Pacific Railroad at Marshall, Tx. I'd like to see if there is a suitable HO scale model that one of these cars can be built. Is this car a AAR design like the Atlas Trainman AAR 70-ton hopper? Did any other model manufacturer produce a similar hopper car? I've attached the Mopac diagram for the car and an image of the car. Thanks,
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SHPX ORER help needed
Aley, Jeff A
Hi Folks,
I have recently become interested in SHPX (Shipper’s Car Line) covered hoppers (LO’s) and in particular, the ones leased to Westvaco / FMC. I am very fortunate that the January, 1992 Railmodel Journal is online at http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1992_1/ .
However, the article only covers cars built up to February, 1952. Can someone help me with a scan or photo of the ORER entry for SHPX LO’s for the mid- or late-1950’s?
Thanks,
-Jeff
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Re: Cadillac loads
Bud Rindfleisch
Schuyler, those were '59 Caddys, Probably the longest, heaviest and ugliest Cadillacs ever made! Bud Rindfleisch
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Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
Tony Thompson
Ken Adams wrote (in part): By 1950 I would assume it would need the AUTOMOBILE service branding removed as it would be downgraded to general merchandise carriage. A common misunderstanding. The word "automobile" on a car did NOT mean it was necessarily in that service. Until the early 1950s, the AAR defined an "automobile car" as a box car with double doors and possibly end doors. There is nothing in the definition about what the car might carry. You can see this in the fleets of many railroads. Certainly SP among them; usually about half of each order of 50-ft. DD box cars was intended for lumber service, but every single car was lettered "automobile." And when SP removed auto racks from such cars, they did not remove the "automobile" lettering, though they would paint out the white door stripes. Tony Thompson
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Re: Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950
Fred Jansz
Thank you for that list Ian.
It's weird to see WP still has the ten 1906-built (that was before WP was actually in operation starting 1909!) tank cars on the roster. Cars that in real life (in 1955) probably were long gone, certainly as revenue cars. When I add these 10 cars and deduct the 5 off roster cars; yes, WP had 215 tank cars, I agree. However, all books and info I have, including the 1950 ORER, mention these tank cars were in MW or out of service by 1955. Why these -except 5- still are in the TCC list is a miracle to me. Thanks again for the info. cheers, Fred Jansz
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Intermountain wheelsets for sale.
I have excess intermountain HO wheelsets
2 packs of 33” high detail wheels. Code 110 tread. $12 each 100 count HO 33” bulk count code 110 wheels. $60. (Dealer told me these were code 88. They are not. Box was opened and I saw they were code 110) Shipping USPS priority mail. Buy all three. Free shipping. Contact me OFF LIST at prrk41361 at yahoo dot com if interested. Brian J. Carlson
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Re: Wanted Data sheet and assembly instructions for Sunshine Kit #2.1 C&NW rebuilt boxcar
Chuck Cover
Thanks Eric, Joe and Kai for responding to my request. I appreciate your help.
It looks like the C&NW, CMO and RI are all on the same data sheet with the same 4 pages of instructions.
Thanks again,
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor
Schuyler Larrabee
In a word, yes. That substantial (and bent) rod across the car would wind up the hopper doors by the ratcheted wheel on the side of the car.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 12:37 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor
Fabulous shot, Bob!
Can anyone elaborate on the drop mechanism? Is that a rod and ratchet that controlled dropping of the doors?
Thanks!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library: Blockedhttps://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2463/rec/138 This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit to show the floor detail and mechanism for dumping a load. My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
Todd Sullivan
Schuyler,
I also found it hard to read that line in my ORER. Guess I need new glasses, LOL! I will do that as soon as we get to the point with the corona virus where I feel comfortable being close to an optician. Hope it's in the next couple of years! Todd Sullivan
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Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
Schuyler Larrabee
Thanks, Todd, for correcting me, though I plead that the “11300” in my ORER looks more like 11500. The number’s not clear. Todd is correct about the listing being the Yarmouth car, of which I have two, next up on the to-be-built list.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 12:14 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
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Re: EARLY PLASTIC KITS
WILLIAM PARDIE
Morning Clark And Others: I did not mean to imply that there were negative comments. Richard was actually complimentary when he saw the car. I thought it humorous that he thought I might have brought a brass car. It was the damage in transit that deterred me. Actually I'm always amazed that I arrive undamaged. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Fabulous shot, Bob!
Can anyone elaborate on the drop mechanism? Is that a rod and ratchet that controlled dropping of the doors?
Thanks!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 12:18 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor
Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library: Blockedhttps://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2463/rec/138 This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit to show the floor detail and mechanism for dumping a load. My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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