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Re: My latest Covid build

Lester Breuer
 

Excellent build Fenton.
Lester Breuer


Re: My latest Covid build

Todd Sullivan
 

Fenton -

That's a right nice looking car!  Lots of complicated looking hardware on the roof for the hatches, and such a clean look otherwise.  The lettering says they were used for cement.  Were they used for other commodities?

Todd Sullivan


My latest Covid build

O Fenton Wells
 

Southern covered hopper by F&C .  Light weathering as the car was 1951 and the era is about that time


Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

John Barry
 

The line must be clearer in my Oct 44 edition.  As Ben stated, the base kit is off, but as a stand in, it has a basis in reality in that it is at least the same type and configuration of car, albeit with more modern roof and ends.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 12:52:55 PM EDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:


Schuyler,

I also found it hard to read that line in my ORER.  Guess I need new glasses, LOL!  I will do that as soon as we get to the point with the corona virus where I feel comfortable being close to an optician.  Hope it's in the next couple of years! 

Todd Sullivan


Re: ID needed

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

So the car was basically a SS car with an extra layer of sheathing INSIDE sandwiching the insulation? That ought to really cut down the capacity.

An outside braced reefer was probably a limited design car I assume?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 04:54:50 PM CDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed
 
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1


Re: ID needed

Bruce Smith
 

Definitely an R7 in the photograph. You can tell by the diagonal bracing going in both directions. On the R7, the insulation was added inside the sheathing, so the capacity was reduced over that of the X24 boxcar. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] ID needed
 
I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1


ID needed

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I recently discovered this photo of a wreck on the Ma&Pa at Sharon, MD near Gross Trestle from 10/30/1925. The near car on it's side appears to be a reefer due to the door and ice hatches. It's also a single sheathed car to me. I can only recall Pennsy R7 and a similar Reading cars like that. Wouldn't a SS reefer have little ability to keep things cool?

Thanks for any help.
oldline1


Re: TNM hopper car suitable model

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Nathan,

Roundhouse made a similar model but it had a variety of problems such as the enter outlet bay pointed in the wrong direction relative to the B end and minimal detailing.  The Atlas model is much better, and probably close to the T-NM prototype.  I have neither model, so I can't measure and compare them to the diagram.  Perhaps someone else can do that.

Todd Sullivan


TNM hopper car suitable model

Nathan Obermeyer
 

In 1953 the Texas New Mexico Railroad received 200 70-ton hopper cars (road numbers T-NM 100-299) (later T-NM 500000-500183) built by the Texas and Pacific Railroad at Marshall, Tx. I'd like to see if there is a suitable HO scale model that one of these cars can be built. Is this car a AAR design like the Atlas Trainman AAR 70-ton hopper? Did any other model manufacturer produce a similar hopper car? I've attached the Mopac diagram for the car and an image of the car. Thanks,

Nate


SHPX ORER help needed

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Folks,

 

               I have recently become interested in SHPX (Shipper’s Car Line) covered hoppers (LO’s) and in particular, the ones leased to Westvaco / FMC.  I am very fortunate that the January, 1992 Railmodel Journal is online at http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1992_1/ .

 

               However, the article only covers cars built up to February, 1952.  Can someone help me with a scan or photo of the ORER entry for SHPX LO’s for the mid- or  late-1950’s?

 

Thanks,

 

-Jeff

 


Re: Cadillac loads

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Schuyler, those were '59 Caddys, Probably the longest, heaviest and ugliest Cadillacs ever made!
      Bud Rindfleisch


Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

Tony Thompson
 

Ken Adams wrote (in part):

By 1950 I would assume it would need the AUTOMOBILE service branding removed as it would be downgraded to general merchandise carriage.

     A common misunderstanding. The word "automobile" on a car did NOT mean it was necessarily in that service. Until the early 1950s, the AAR defined an "automobile car" as a box car with double doors and possibly end doors. There is nothing in the definition about what the car might carry.
      You can see this in the fleets of many railroads. Certainly SP among them; usually about half of each order of 50-ft. DD box cars was intended for lumber service, but every single car was lettered "automobile." And when SP removed auto racks from such cars, they did not remove the "automobile" lettering, though they would paint out the white door stripes.

Tony Thompson




Re: Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Fred Jansz
 

Thank you for that list Ian.
It's weird to see WP still has the ten 1906-built (that was before WP was actually in operation starting 1909!) tank cars on the roster.
Cars that in real life (in 1955) probably were long gone, certainly as revenue cars.
When I add these 10 cars and deduct the 5 off roster cars; yes, WP had 215 tank cars, I agree.
However, all books and info I have, including the 1950 ORER, mention these tank cars were in MW or out of service by 1955.
Why these -except 5- still are in the TCC list is a miracle to me.
Thanks again for the info.
cheers,
Fred Jansz


Intermountain wheelsets for sale.

Brian Carlson
 

I have excess intermountain HO wheelsets

2 packs of 33” high detail wheels. Code 110 tread. $12 each

100 count HO 33” bulk count code 110 wheels. $60. (Dealer told me these were code 88. They are not. Box was opened and I saw they were code 110)

Shipping USPS priority mail. Buy all three. Free shipping.

Contact me OFF LIST at prrk41361 at yahoo dot com if interested.

Brian J. Carlson


Re: Wanted Data sheet and assembly instructions for Sunshine Kit #2.1 C&NW rebuilt boxcar

Chuck Cover
 

Thanks Eric, Joe and Kai for responding to my request.  I appreciate your help.

 

It looks like the C&NW, CMO and RI are all on the same data sheet with the same 4 pages of instructions.

 

Thanks again,

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

Schuyler Larrabee
 

In a word, yes.  That substantial (and bent) rod across the car would wind up the hopper doors by the ratcheted wheel on the side of the car.

 

Schuyler

 

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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

 

Fabulous shot, Bob!

 

Can anyone elaborate on the drop mechanism?  Is that a rod and ratchet that controlled dropping of the doors?

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

 

Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

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This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit to show the floor detail and mechanism for dumping a load.

My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

Todd Sullivan
 

Schuyler,

I also found it hard to read that line in my ORER.  Guess I need new glasses, LOL!  I will do that as soon as we get to the point with the corona virus where I feel comfortable being close to an optician.  Hope it's in the next couple of years! 

Todd Sullivan


Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Todd, for correcting me, though I plead that the “11300” in my ORER looks more like 11500.  The number’s not clear.  Todd is correct about the listing being the Yarmouth car, of which I have two, next up on the to-be-built list.

 

Schuyler

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car

 

Ken -

My January 1952 ORER shows DL&W series 11300-11599 as 40'-7" IL double door boxcars with 12'-6" wide door openings, AAR mech designation XMR (auto racks installed).  This is the same number series that Yarmouth Models' new kit for a DL&W rebuilt 40' DD auto boxcar portrays. 

I believe that the Accurail kit depicts a GN series of DD cars that were built new or rebuilds in the mid-1950s and used extensively in lumber and plywood loading.  Someone with a a better memory and/or who knows GN equipment better is welcome to comment and correct me.

Todd Sullivan  


Re: EARLY PLASTIC KITS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Morning Clark And Others:


I did not mean to imply that there were negative comments.  Richard was actually complimentary when he saw the car.  I thought it humorous that he thought I might have brought a brass car.

It was the damage in transit that deterred me.  Actually I'm always amazed that I arrive undamaged.

Bill Pardie




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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Fabulous shot, Bob!

 

Can anyone elaborate on the drop mechanism?  Is that a rod and ratchet that controlled dropping of the doors?

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

 

Photo: Erie Low Side Hopper (Gondola?) With Damaged Floor

An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

Blockedhttps://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2463/rec/138

This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit to show the floor detail and mechanism for dumping a load.

My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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