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Re: stock car cyclopedia

al_brown03
 

The other day I tried to visit the Hundman Publishing website, using a bookmark that used to work, and got a "doesn't exist" error. Has anyone contacted them lately?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., mlauber4@... wrote:

Lester,

Vol. 2 of the Stock Car book has never been released by Hundman. We're still waiting for it too.

Merlyn Lauber
Caboose Stop Hobbies

----- Original Message -----
From: frograbbit602 <frograbbit602@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:48:27 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [STMFC] stock car cyclopedia

All, In looking for a prototype for a styrene/plastic stock car by Lindberg in the Stock Car Cyclopedia, Vol. 1 by Hundman there was reference to a Vol. 2. Can someone tell me if Vol. 2 was ever published?
And, does anyone know if there was a prototype for the Lindberg stock car as I have had no success in finding one?

Lester Breuer


Re: Brake fluid warning

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

(I think LaBelle Lubricants) once sold powdered teflon as a lubricant,<
LaBelle still makes powered teflon. "Labelle 134 .30 oz. Micro-Fine Teflon Non-Staining Dry Lubricant "


Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Brake fluid warning (NOT!)

CJ Riley
 

I guess I could have been more clear in intending a warning about many of the chemicals we use. I knew an artist who used a torch on a piece of painted metal only to find it was galvanized and the flashing gases severely damaged his lungs, ending his life very prematurely.  Brake fluid, brake cleaner and many other require reading instructions and care in use. I am probably more guilty than most about following this advice.
CJ Riley


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Wow! What a reference source!

- Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <@timboconnor>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Build date of NP 39487?


Claus, have you looked here?

http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Box%20Cars/Forms/AllItems.aspx

Tim O'Connor



Since we have such a lovely image of this freight car available on-line is there any interest on your part to scan and post the
diagram on-line for those who might be interested in taking this a little further?

Thanks - Claus Schlund


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Re: Mail order business for freight cars, etc.

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Jon Miller wrote:

I have done business for many year with Park Varieties. It's owner
Frank Bura and a member of this list passed away a couple of weeks ago.
Frank was a great guy and he will be missed. Which brings me to my
question. Does anyone know of a small home run model railroad business when
I can purchase my freight cars and assorted items I might need.
Jon, I've been buying most of my model RR stuff for years - everything from AC adhesives to new brass models - from Mike Flick (Santa Fe historian and modeler) who runs the Train Station in Columbus, OH. I order by e-mail or phone and have my credit card # on file. Mike gets anything he may not have in stock quickly, ships UPS, and gives me a modest discount which at least covers the shipping. And, of course, an important consideration for you Californians, there's no sales tax. <www.trainstationohio.com>. Standard disclaimer: I have no connection at all with the Train Station except as a satisfied customer.


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Tim O'Connor
 

Since we have such a lovely image of this freight car available on-line is there any interest on your part to scan and post the diagram on-line for those who might be interested in taking this a little further?

Thanks - Claus Schlund


Re: Brake fluid warning (NOT!)

Tim O'Connor
 

Exactly Bill, if you see any thing with tetrachloro- in the prefix,
run away!! Or at least handle it with synthetic gloves and a gas mask.

Brake FLUID is quite mild, not dangerous to handle (but don't drink
it), is not volatile, and washes off easily.

BTW Bill, found this about Teflon:

"Teflon does not contain chloride and it would take some pretty
exotic chemistry to produce phosgene from a freon."

Turns out Teflon was discovered accidently while Dupont was trying
to concoct a refrigerant http://www.3dchem.com/molecules.asp?ID=200

Tim O'Connor

Nasty stuff... although if you read the article, they are talking about brake CLEANER, not brake fluid. AFAIK, brake fluid does not contain TCE, but that doesn't mean all of our compounds and chemicals we use are safe. Somebody (I think LaBelle Lubricants) once sold powdered teflon as a lubricant, and if you smoke, the tip of your cigarette is hot enough to break it down to, you guessed it, Phosgene gas.

Incidently, TCE (or Trichloroethylene) was and still is a common solvent. Down here it is a common groundwater contaminant, and has been suspected in several local leukemia "hotspots". TCE is also the first daughter product of Perchloroethylene, a common dry cleaning solvent. It's amazing the nasty compounds we surround ourselves with...

Bill Daniels

Tucson, AZ


Re: Brake fluid warning

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Nasty stuff... although if you read the article, they are talking about brake CLEANER, not brake fluid. AFAIK, brake fluid does not contain TCE, but that doesn't mean all of our compounds and chemicals we use are safe. Somebody (I think LaBelle Lubricants) once sold powdered teflon as a lubricant, and if you smoke, the tip of your cigarette is hot enough to break it down to, you guessed it, Phosgene gas.

Incidently, TCE (or Trichloroethylene) was and still is a common solvent. Down here it is a common groundwater contaminant, and has been suspected in several local leukemia "hotspots". TCE is also the first daughter product of Perchloroethylene, a common dry cleaning solvent. It's amazing the nasty compounds we surround ourselves with...

Bill Daniels

Tucson, AZ

--- On Thu, 12/24/09, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Brake fluid warning
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 12:22 PM







 









> I found this on a casting list and thought it wise to forward to a

group that has talked about brake fluid as a stripper.
http://www.brewraci ngframes. com/id75. htm


CJ inserted some spaces into the URL, which make it

inoperative. I've fixed those in the above citation.



Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress. com

(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturep ress.com

Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Brake fluid warning

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

I found this on a casting list and thought it wise to forward to a group that has talked about brake fluid as a stripper.

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
CJ inserted some spaces into the URL, which make it inoperative. I've fixed those in the above citation.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hendrickson

And a merry Christmas to you, too, Kurt. Disagreements on this list are part of the process. Personal sniping is not. These remarks cross the line and should earn you a lump of coal in your Christmas stocking.

----- Original Message -----

I'll use it in my steam-era locomotive to pull freight cars.

KL


Re: Tahoe Model Works latest HO 50T truck

Greg Martin
 

All,

I will have a copies of Brian's order sheet at Cocoa Beach for those interested. Likely I will leave them with Stan (at his table) so you don't have to seek me out specifically and they don't end up as Coasters for the Coffee and Cookies when served... 3^)

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: brianleppert@... <brianleppert@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 9:28 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tahoe Model Works latest HO 50T truck






Bill,

The newest HO offering is a Barber Lateral Motion 50-Ton Truck. I'll try to make a full announcement later today, but in the meantime I can e-mail the flyer. If anyone is interested please contact me OFF-LIST at

brianleppert@...

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Dear Andy:

I have never had any business courses but as a consumer I have always found it handy to know what it is I am purchasing, that is, mentioned in a non cryptic way rather than having to do research to find out what I am being asked to buy.

Just a thought.

Bill Welch


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Kurt Laughlin wrote:

Feel free to send your conclusions to Tony, at home, at his publishing
business, or at the university; whichever signature line he used at
the time
to let us all know that he knows what he's talking about, and we
don't.
And a merry Christmas to you, too, Kurt. Disagreements on this list
are part of the process. Personal sniping is not. These remarks
cross the line and should earn you a lump of coal in your Christmas
stocking.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Coil-Elliptic Trucks

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 24, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Richard, the DT&I gondolas were 70 ton correct? Brian's only done
50 ton trucks thus far...
True, but I ain't gonna quibble about it. Just to have an excellent
coil-elliptic truck at all is a major breakthrough.


Richard Hendrickson


Re: Brake fluid warning

CJ Riley
 

I found this on a casting list and thought it wise to forward to a group that has talked about brake fluid as a stripper.

http://www.brewraci ngframes. com/id75. htm

Very scary info, although we rarely TIG weld, we might do other dome things with similar dangers.


CJ Riley


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Gene,

Since we have such a lovely image of this freight car available on-line is there any interest on your part to scan and post the diagram on-line for those who might be interested in taking this a little further?

Thanks - Claus Schlund

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:losgatos48@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 08:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Build date of NP 39487?

My NP Freight Equipment book from 1-24-40 shows that that this car was one of group that was renumbered from four different series. The earliest build date is 1907 with the latest being 1912 for a group built at South Tacoma shops.

Gene Deimling


--- In STMFC@..., "Kurt Laughlin" <fleeta@...> wrote:

As seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_army_rolling_along/4208381799/sizes/o/in/set-72157622932596875/

I'm trying to date the photos.

Thx,
KL

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Re: Coil-Elliptic Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

Richard, the DT&I gondolas were 70 ton correct? Brian's only done
50 ton trucks thus far...

Tim O'Connor

Here are a couple more, Brian. I know because I just put your trucks
on models of these.

John R. Grace & Co GRYX 657 AC&F Type 27 8.000 gal. tank car built
1937. Sorry, I don't have a number series for these (in the ORERs
they're lumped into a series of several hundred cars). All I have
is an in-service photo.

Detroit, Toledo & Ironton DT&I 9000-9099, 52'6" Greenville drop end
mill gondolas (most equipped after WW II with rack for auto frame
loading).

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Tahoe Model Works latest HO 50T truck

brianleppert@att.net
 

Bill,

The newest HO offering is a Barber Lateral Motion 50-Ton Truck. I'll try to make a full announcement later today, but in the meantime I can e-mail the flyer. If anyone is interested please contact me OFF-LIST at

brianleppert@...

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Dear Andy:

I have never had any business courses but as a consumer I have always found it handy to know what it is I am purchasing, that is, mentioned in a non cryptic way rather than having to do research to find out what I am being asked to buy.

Just a thought.

Bill Welch


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

I invite all interested parties to do so, but please make sure to read my initial statement as well: "American tank design *in the interwar period* was probably no worse nor better than that of any other country at the time."

Feel free to send your conclusions to Tony, at home, at his publishing business, or at the university; whichever signature line he used at the time to let us all know that he knows what he's talking about, and we don't.

Toodles!
KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Thompson (determined to have the last word despite previous statements to the contrary)

Kurt Laughlin (attempting to have the last word) wrote:
Yes I am serious, and yes, you are wrong, but I'll be happy to stop
here, as per your usual request when challenged and you want to have
the last word.
Read any tank history, is all I can say, and see if you think
Kurt is right.


Re: Build date of NP 39487?

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

Thanks Gene. Any indication of when this particular car had 39487 assigned?

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene

My NP Freight Equipment book from 1-24-40 shows that that this car was one of group that was renumbered from four different series. The earliest build date is 1907 with the latest being 1912 for a group built at South Tacoma shops.


Happy Holidays

Dennis Williams
 

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