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U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar
U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar From the John W. Barriger III National Railroad Library Collection: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49589808122/in/album-72157649155982802/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49589806352/in/album-72157649155982802/ And flat car: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49589573661/in/album-72157649155982802/ These are AC&F cars. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load
Randy Williamson
Hi Elden,
I have never heard or diagonal loading of cars. Would it entail opposite corners of the load being off the car? Randy
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Re: USRA double sheathed rebuids
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Hello folks, Does anyone have a list of those roads that received and rebuilt their USRA double sheathed cars using Youngstown kits of either 8 or 10 panel steel sides or roads that might have purchased such rebuilt cars? Alternately would anyone have a duplicate copy of Vol. 24 of the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia that they might be interested in trading for a new, and duplicate to me, copy of RPC Nos. 1 through 7? Thank your for any assistance offered, Don Valentine
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Re: General American two dome tank car GATX 810
Great blog Lester, I too have on of those to build and your blog will be a great help. I built the 3 dome Dupont car and made many mistakes. To this day somewhere under my desk(workbench) or in the ethereal space continuum are 3 of the brass end steps. I never found them. Fenton
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:26 PM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
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Re: Flat Car Load
That would definitely be handled as a special move. Some roads could handle it, others could not. Engine, perhaps an idler or not, caboose. Orders almost certainly would read to NOT meet opposing train on double track. Slow orders, walking speed through certain bridges, etc. Interesting for operations, maybe once a year or so. Chuck Peck
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:44 PM Randy Williamson <pennsy@...> wrote: Hi All,
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Re: Flat Car Load
Richard Townsend
Railroads were able to move loads that were too high or too wide, or both, to meet clearance diagrams. It might require a special movement all on its own. But I know of a movement of brewery equipment on the Colorado & Southern from Denver to Golden for Coors. The route was checked beforehand for clearance issues and planning went on several days before the cars with the loads arrived. They put the cars carrying the high/wide load at the head of the regular local to Golden and sent a crew in a motor car ahead of the train to double check for possible clearance problems as the train proceeded. Some tree limbs had to be cut, but otherwise the move was made successfully. But keep in mind this was an unusual occurrence. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Randy Williamson <pennsy@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 9:44 am Subject: [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load Hi All,
I have an item I would like to make into a load for a HO 40' flat car. The item measures out to 14' (HO Scale) width and the flat car deck is at 9' width. Would that be allowable or is the item too wide for this flat car. Thanks, Randy Williamson
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Randy;
That is considerably in excess of any clearance diagram I am aware of. That is also why some roads rostered diagonal loading cars.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Randy Williamson
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:44 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load
Hi All,
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Flat Car Load
Randy Williamson
Hi All,
I have an item I would like to make into a load for a HO 40' flat car. The item measures out to 14' (HO Scale) width and the flat car deck is at 9' width. Would that be allowable or is the item too wide for this flat car. Thanks, Randy Williamson
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General American two dome tank car GATX 810
Lester Breuer
After putting off the build of Southern Car & Foundry GATX two dome tank car, I finally build it. I ended up lettering it GATX 810. If you are interested in the build of this tank car including addition of parts not in the kit and handrails using a method not in the kit instructions, photos and writeup of the build process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link: Lester Breuer
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Re: Boiler Load On Flat Car (Multiscale Digital Boilers)
Allen Cain
Bob, I received one of each and I was very pleased with the surface. I agree that the surface looks grainy in the pictures. But the actual surface on mine was just fine. Also, note that there are bolt/rivet heads on a lot of the surfaces. Allen Cain
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Re: Boiler Load On Flat Car (Multiscale Digital Boilers)
John Barry
Don, I believe that Bruce modified a Chooch boiler. That was a variant of the "Scotch boiler" and not the type used in warships. The Birchfield boilers of the current discussion originated at Tacoma Washington (State not District) at the Birchfield Shipbuilding & Boiler Co., Inc., located on the west side of the Blair Waterway, in the Port of Tacoma. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 10:13:38 AM EDT, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Who was the firm that offered similar boilers but I believe they were sectional and for ships? Was it Bruce Smith that posted photos of such a boiler as a flat car load some years ago? Those I could easily justify here as opposed to an industrial boiler from a mid-western manufacturer. I believe it was Alco that supplied ship boiler that passed through Vermont via a somewhat circuitous route to Bath Iron Works in Bath, Me to be used in the destroyers they built during WW II. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Boiler Load On Flat Car (Multiscale Digital Boilers)
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Who was the firm that offered similar boilers but I believe they were sectional and for ships? Was it Bruce Smith that posted photos of such a boiler as a flat car load some years ago? Those I could easily justify here as opposed to an industrial boiler from a mid-western manufacturer. I believe it was Alco that supplied ship boiler that passed through Vermont via a somewhat circuitous route to Bath Iron Works in Bath, Me to be used in the destroyers they built during WW II. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Painting brass
John Barry
Joe, Maybe we should hang blue flags on the common equipment when we are using it to prevent such incidents? John John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 04:13:40 PM EDT, Joseph <mstl852@...> wrote:
That happened to a buddy of mine. He was baking a passenger car, went downstairs to work on something else. His wife came home to make cookies and raised the oven temp. The car was later sent to a friend to have it re assembled. His house burned down. I have melted a Walthers H10-44 shell while trying to set Scalecoat. My kids learned all kinds of new words that day. I keep that shell around so if I start to get cocky it brings me back to reality. Joe Binish New Hope , MN
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Re: Barriger Library AC&F Photos
John Barry
Very interesting. GAPX is not listed as a registered reporting mark in either the Jan or Apr 43 nor the Oct 44 ORER. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 04:10:34 PM EDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
David,
As usual, very interesting!
Just a few photos up from SHPX 17520 is this Carnegie Steel Slab Cooling Car, lettered for the War Department Ordnance:
SHPX 1750 is a "classic" USG-A that could be modeled from a Tichy tank and IM type 27 under frame.
USQX 11200 shows have the USG-A cars for USQX had a GATC-style frame (built by AC&F) and an AC&F tank.
NdeM 4305 presents an interesting issue. It too is a "classic" USG-A, except that it has a horizontal shaft hand brake. When I looked at the photo I wondered why we (the USA) were building cars for Mexico, when we were desperately short ourselves. In a post
in 2008, ( #72832)
Richard Hendrickson indicates that the War Production Board apparently had the same question and at least some of the NdeM cars were redirected to SHPX. This may in fact be one of those cars, and it would actually not have left Milton in this paint....
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via groups.io <jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:01 AM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Barriger Library AC&F Photos After taking a break for a year or so, some early-1940s AC&F builder's
photos have been added to the Flickr page, including several USG-A 4-course tanks. SHPX 17520: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49619124151/in/album-72157649155982802/ USQX 11200 : https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49619388297/in/album-72157649155982802/ NdeM 45305: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49618608328/in/album-72157649155982802/ David Thompson
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Re: Red Caboose Mather Meat reefers
Bruce Griffin
Andy and Ron, Thank you. I did look at the Mather Stock Car brake arrangement yesterday figuring they would be similar as the company seemed to prefer simple and consistent for ease of maintenance. Bruce D. Griffin Ashland, MD
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Re: Red Caboose Mather Meat reefers
Andy Cich
Proto 2000 produced both the Mather stock car and Mather box car with AB brakes. Since the reefer has a similar underframe, I copied the Proto cars. Lacking any better information, that seemed the best to me.
Andy Cich
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:13 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Red Caboose Mather Meat reefers
Friends, Bruce D. Griffin
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Re: Boiler Load On Flat Car
Nelson Moyer
RCW includes the YMW tank car straps with the boiler load.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:33 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boiler Load On Flat Car
For straps you might want to use some etched tank car straps from Yarmouth Model Works: https://www.yarmouthmodelworks.com/index.php/ModelDetailParts/Miscellaneous Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS
Ken Vandevoort <apo09324@...>
If anyone is looking for a photo of a particular tractor, I lived a block away from the Midwest Old Settlers and Threshers Reunion in Mount Pleasant, Iowa for 10 years and photographed tractors there longer than that. If you need a close up of a particular detail, wait until Labor Day weekend and I will look for it. Attached is a photo that became a jigsaw puzzle for the Henry County Heritage Trust a few years ago. As you can see in the photo, not every Farmall was red.
Ken Vandevoort New London, IA
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Re: B&M XM1 trucks
Clark Propst
Thanks everybody, much appreciated. I had a package of the Red Caboose trucks. Being the label had PRR on it I never looked that close. They are now under the car.
Now if that order of KD couplers would show up.... CW Propst
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Re: Boiler Load On Flat Car (Multiscale Digital Boilers)
Multiscale Digital Boilers Here are the boilers from the company's website: HO Scale N Scale Some of the 3D printed surfaces look a little grainy to me. Any comments or thoughts on how to remedy this? Hemet, CA
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