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Re: ADMIN - do not open website from "Richard Ramik"

Todd Sullivan
 

Thanks, Jeff, for keeping us safe. 

I learned the hard way not to open fishy stuff like that.

Todd Sullivan


Re: National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Dave Parker
 

Brian:

That's a nice shot of a CN Fowler with 5-ft doors (IOW the very nice Speedwitch K104 kit).  Although numerous, photos of these cars pre-AB brakes seem to be rather scarce.

Thanks for posting.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


ADMIN - do not open website from "Richard Ramik"

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Folks,

 

               RealSTMFC got an email from “Richard Ramik” asking “if anyone has done business at [spam website]???”

 

               It’s SPAM, please don’t click on the link.

 

               The real Richard Ramik has been a member of RealSTMFC for a long time; I doubt the message was really from him.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC


Re: National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Brian Rochon
 

After additional research, it looks like it may be Wallabout Union Freight Station serving PRR, NYC/West Shore, LV, B&O, CNJ, & NYO&W at Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:13 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

 

Not DL&W.  No lines in the NY Navy Yard.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Rochon
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

spsalso
 

Athearn shows these trucks on their most recent release of the SP ore cars:


http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH97741


They are not on any of the other ore cars announced at that time.  It does seem to be time for them to run another batch.  I just wish I had a need for these cars--they look great.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

Bruce Smith
 

Indeed!  I haven't forgotten... just didn't mention it, but when done that will, of course, contribute even more to the impression of the car! It is my intent with my 2 to model one that has been on the road for 2 months and is lightly weathered with a 2nd that is on it's first revenue trip.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: GN Boxcar 44653
 
Don't forget the black:  roof, ends and underbody.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

spsalso
 

Don't forget the black:  roof, ends and underbody.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Not DL&W.  No lines in the NY Navy Yard.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Rochon
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: F&C LV box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Completely agree, Bill, That’s a very convincing photo . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Super modeling job Ed.  Looking at the photo the only clue that it is  model is the coupler trip pin.  Great weathering.  The setting is the same quality as the model.  

 

Just what I would hope to achieve.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Edward <edb8381@...>

Date: 4/16/20 4:03 AM (GMT-10:00)

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: F&C LV box car

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Super modeling job Ed.  Looking at the photo the only clue that it is  model is the coupler trip pin.  Great weathering.  The setting is the same quality as the model.  

Just what I would hope to achieve.

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Edward <edb8381@...>
Date: 4/16/20 4:03 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

Indeed, that car is a GN plywood sheathed car from the first series (built may to June 1944), as denoted by the composite door (and 6/44 build date 😉)

The only thing that might make that photo better would be if it included the "B" end, and in color to show off that gorgeous Omaha Orange and green paint scheme!

I have 2 kits to build... a Sunshine (79.1) and a hybrid IM kit from Andy Carlson to backdate the IM kit to the 1944 cars... Now I just need one more set of those funky composite doors.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: GN Boxcar 44653
 

Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

A photo from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collection:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/18231/rec/518

Description: "Great Northern Box Car being loaded by Sperry Flour Company at Ocean Dock, DFPA, Edith Leik. A man is moving several bags of flour inside a box car at the Sperry Flour Company Ocean Dock. Another man stands outside reviewing a list. Some of the Sperry Flour Company facilities are seen in the background."

I believe this is a plywood-sheathed boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

A photo from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collection:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/18231/rec/518

Description: "Great Northern Box Car being loaded by Sperry Flour Company at Ocean Dock, DFPA, Edith Leik. A man is moving several bags of flour inside a box car at the Sperry Flour Company Ocean Dock. Another man stands outside reviewing a list. Some of the Sperry Flour Company facilities are seen in the background."

I believe this is a plywood-sheathed boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Brian Rochon
 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Bob Chaparro
 

Those HD trucks were included in the earlier ore cars but more recent kits and R-T-R versions feature their regular freight car trucks.
I've had good luck finding the earlier versions at swap meets.
I plan to upgrade some helium cars with these trucks, knowing full well right after I've converted the last car someone will produce and market a much better car.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine asked: 
"As most of us are aware, many railroads began rebuilding their USRA double sheathed box cars in the mid to late 1930 with most using "kits" of new sides and sometimes other parts as well supplied by companies such as Youngstown Steel. Some of these kits used eight panel sides and some used ten panel sides. So my first question is why was there a difference in the number of panels per side and what determined which style to use?"


Individual railroad mechanical departments' preferences and vendor choice.

"Could it be that a car type other than the USRA double sheathed cars was also rebuilt in this period and differed in construction enough to require a different number of panels?"

Not really.  Rebuilt single-sheathed and sectional sheathed cars also exhibited variations in number of panels used.


"Lastly, has anyone ever put together a list of those roads that used such its to rebuild cars that would indicate when such rebuilding occurred, which type of car was rebuilt and what number of panels the new sides used were comprised of?  It would seem this would be useful information for reference if there is any such guide."

I did one almost 15 years ago.  It could use an update as we've learned a lot since then, but it's further down on my list of things to do.  It's in the group files section here:


Ben Hom



 


Re: Rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

    Please excuse what may be an off-the-wall question for many but may shed some light on
things for others. As most of us are aware, many railroads began rebuilding their USRA double 
sheathed box cars in the mid to late 1930 with most using "kits" of new sides and sometimes
other parts as well supplied by companies such as Youngstown Steel. Some of theses kits
used eight panel sides and some used ten panel sides. So my first question is why was there
a difference in the number of panels per side and what determined which style to use? Could
it be that a car type other than the USRA double sheathed cars was also rebuilt in this period 
and differed in construction enough to require a different number of panels? Lastly, has anyone
ever put together a list of those roads that used such its to rebuild cars that would indicate when
such rebuilding occurred, which type of car was rebuilt and what number of panels the new sides
used were comprised of?  It would seem this would be useful information for reference if there is
any such guide.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Bob Weston
 

Full size decals available on the tractor restoration market, surely some enterprising individual could make scale decals from these.Written as I sit on my McCormick Deering Farmall A.
"If it ain't red leave it in the shed!"


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine wrote:
"Three bay MDC hoppers for the B&LE sounds about right to me, Richard.  Some of them were purchased 2nd hand by the B&M and they all had trucks with double clasp brakes. Can't help but wonder who else  have used such cars to warrant the expense of tooling
for those trucks for what appears to be a very limited usage."

As noted earlier, the trucks in question were tooled by MDC for their SP ore gons.  The MDC offset triple is a pretty terrible model of an early offset triple with stepped taper.  It has an odd fishbelly side sill and hoppers that are too shallow in profile, leading to a pretty goofy appearance.  I hate the MDC triple hoppers and the fact that they keep popping up on the market with a passion - in a just world, the tooling would have blown up years ago.  Instead, Athearn chose to put lipstick on a pig by upgrading these models with separate grabs.

As for the B&LE 90-ton offset triples, there has been an accurate model available for these for decades - the Ulrich offset triple.


Ben Hom



Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

   Three bay MDC hoppers for the B&LE sounds about right to me, Richard. Some of them
were purchased 2nd hand by the B&M and they all had trucks with double clasp brakes.
Can't help but wonder who else  have used such cars to warrant the expense of tooling
for those trucks for what appears to be a very limited usage.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: F&C LV box car

Edward
 

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer

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