Crandic Gons
Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
Warning, this may be off topic, ie too modern for this list. A friend is seeking information about a series of Gons, ie when were
they built, owned by the Crandic, the Cedar Rapids and Iowa City Railway, reporting marks CIC. The series is 320-324. They are not listed in my April 1960 ORER (newest I have naturally), nor in any earlier editions I have. It is reported they do show in a 1971 ORER. It is possible they were acquired used, ie built before 1960. As this looks to be a crystal ball gazing into the future, reply offlist to <doug.harding at iowacentralrr.org> I've been in Brock's Jail, don't want to ever experience that frozen horror again. Thanks. Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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NYC auto car,1952 era
carl roberts
Hi All, My first post, hope all goes well. In a recent B&MRRHS news letter article,Dwight Smith mentions that new autos were shipped from Tarrytown, NY to No. New England in NYC automobile cars. Any one know if an HO model is correct or close for this? Thanks in advance, Carl Roberts
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Re: news from Springfield
You're right Mike, my bad. I hadn't looked at one in quite
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a while, so I didn't remember they were already done that way. Tim O'
At 1/31/2010 04:55 PM Sunday, you wrote:
Tim O'Connor writes:However, they have redone the ACF-Hart ballast hopper. The revisedTim,
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Re: news from Springfield
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Tim O'Connor writes:
However, they have redone the ACF-Hart ballast hopper. The revisedTim, Are we talking about the same car? I wrote an article [ blush ] in Ted Culotta's Railroad Prototype Modeling, Vol One...A Tale of Two Hoppers...in which I offered a "fix" to two very noticable problems with the Atlas car...a UP HK-70-1...the lack of a bolster and center sill. The Atlas car had wire grabs and interior detail. Mike Brock
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Re: news from Springfield
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Bruce, I'm not sure that was the car... could be. It was painted in Shadow Keystone.
At 1/31/2010 02:42 PM Sunday, you wrote:
Atlas had a bunch of their "rebuilt" or "1932" box cars painted in"Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net> 01/31/10 12:56 PM >>>
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Model Railroad Open House - Saturday, February 6, 2010 - 6pm to 10 pm
James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
All,
As has been my custom for the past several years, I will have an open house of my model railroad following the Timonium, MD show on Saturday, February 6, 2010 from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. The HO scale layout occupies a 3600 square foot basement and replicates the N&W Shenandoah Valley line between Front Royal and Waynesboro, VA, circa 1956. In addition to period motive power and rolling stock, there are many scratchbuilt structures representing the area. Please contact me off list ( jfbrewer@comcast.net ) if you need directions. Hope to see you. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD
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Re: news from Springfield
Atlas had a bunch of their "rebuilt" or "1932" box cars painted in"Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net> 01/31/10 12:56 PM >>> a number of bogus paint schemes, including PRR. It's just so goofy I barely pay any attention to Atlas anymore... Um Tim, PRR did own ONE 1932 AAR boxcar, class X35, #36986, formerly ARA #3. Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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Keith Retterer email?
Does anyone have an email address for Keith Retterer that they could share with me, off-list, if appropriate.
Thanks, Steve Hile
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Re: Trucks
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Strangely enough, many of these Red Ball trucks are still being producedbut by Bethlehem Car Works.< I know that but these are molds from the 50s and it's really hard to change to .088 wheelsets. The level of detail, while great for their time, is a little downlevel compared to modern products. Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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news from Springfield
The most exciting STMFC item I saw at Springfield was a new
Kadee truck, in their new engineering plastic: A 70 ton, Barber S-2A truck. Yowsuh! I can think of a few dozen cars of mine that can use this truck. Sam Clarke also showed me the re-done 50t ASF A-3, 50t Bettendorf, and Arch Bar. So no more worries about see-through Kadee springs! Sam said that all trucks in their line would be re-done this way. ( A couple of dealers griped to me about Kadee selling models at the show at a discounted price -- undercutting their dealers! ) Atlas had a bunch of their "rebuilt" or "1932" box cars painted in a number of bogus paint schemes, including PRR. It's just so goofy I barely pay any attention to Atlas anymore... However, they have redone the ACF-Hart ballast hopper. The revised version has better interior detail, and what appears to be all wire grabirons. The list price was $24.95 if I recall correctly. They had some new/revised paint schemes, such as a CB&Q repaint. I talked to Don Tichy about his "18 inch" plastic grabirons. I told him they measure out at 22" long, and he seemed surprised. I said I am sure he would sell more of them if he did actual 18" grabs so we could easily replace grabs on older hopper cars (e.g. Athearn). Don seemed positive that he could fix it -- I hope he does! Tim O'Connor
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Re: Exactrail shows Milwaukee rib-side
The Ribside models all suffer from a poorly done roof. So this car
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has a correct roof i.e. it includes actual seam caps. However Ribside offers far more variations of the cars, and I think the EXR model was painted in far too dark a color (while the Ribside cars are a bit on the light side). The car to compare it with is Intermountain's. Intermountain's mistakes on their model may now have to be corrected. :-) Tim O'Connor
At 1/31/2010 11:36 AM Sunday, you wrote:
At the Amherst show, Exactrail is showing a long ribbed 40' Milwaukee box. I do wonder how it will compare to Rib Side Car's various products.
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Re: Trucks
coltrans2002
Strangely enough, many of these Red Ball trucks are still being produced
but by Bethlehem Car Works. http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com <http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com> Tom E. Thompson --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote: made. I do admit that if made they may not sell more than a dozen pair<VBG>!
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Mechanical Refrigerator Car Commodities
Gary Roe
There is an article in the 08Feb1960 issue of Railway Age concerning
Mechanical Refrigerator Cars, and how they are managing to increase traffic. While the article is beyond the cutoff for this list, it does state that there were approximately 1200 RP cars in service in 1955. That number grew to a little over 5100 by the end of 1959. One part of the article I thought might be of interest to modelers, was the list of commodities carried. This could help with filling out waybills for operating sessions. I don't know about you; but this was both enlightening and amusing to me. NON-FROZEN Apples Apricots Blood Plasma Cake Flour Candy Celery Celery Cabbage Cheese Chemicals Chilled Citrus Fruit Juice Cranberries Escarole Evergreens Film Flower Bulbs Fruit Salad Grapefruit Green Beans Green Corn Hops Lard Lettuce Meat Mushroom Sperm Oranges Peaches Pears Plums Potatoes Romaine Shrubbery Tangerines Tape-Masking, Recording, Scotch Tomatoes Vegetables-Mixed FROZEN Apples Bakery Products Banana Puree Berries Cherries Chocolate Eclairs Citrus Concentrate Clams Crab Meat Eggs Fish Fish Sticks Frog Legs Fruit Juices Glands Grape Concentrate Gravy-Giblet Ice Cream Lemonade Lobster Tails Malted Milk Concentrate Meat Milk Melon Balls Peaches Pies-Beef and Chicken Pimentos Pineapple Plums Potatoes-French Fried Potatoes-Sweet Poultry Scallops Shrimp Soup Tomato Juice Turkeys-Stuffed Turtle Meat TV Dinners Vegetables Waffles Watermelon Rind gary roe quincy, illinois
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Exactrail shows Milwaukee rib-side
spsalso
At the Amherst show, Exactrail is showing a long ribbed 40' Milwaukee box. I do wonder how it will compare to Rib Side Car's various products.
Ed Edward Sutorik
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Re: SAL "Route of the Silver Meteor"...
Allen Cain <allencain@...>
Matt,
I found the following post from the late Sam McCall (aka HOSAM) in my files. I cannot attest to its accuracy but knowing his reputation, I would give it serious weight. I will leave it to Denis Blake and others to vouch for its accuracy. Allen Cain From: Southeastern Model Railroaders Forum [SMRF@LISTSERV.DARTMOUTH.EDU] on behalf of samccall [sam@hosam.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:41 PM To: SMRF@LISTSERV.DARTMOUTH.EDU Subject: [SMRF] SAL "Silver Meteor" was Early Streamliner consists Here are a few notes on the "Silver Meteor". Silver Meteor introduced in February 1939 for the winter season. Left New York, Penn Station at 3:30pm, arrived Miami, Fl. at 6:00pm the next day. A 26.5 hour schedule from New York to Miami via the PRR, RF&P& SAL. This train was pulled by PRR's GG1's to Washington, DC. RF&P Engines from DC to Richmond, Va. Here Seaboards EMD E4a #3006 took over to Miami. This engines had a metal plate attached on the side that had the "Silver Meteor" painted on it. The E4's that pulled the "Orange Blossom Special" had the name painted on the sides. All were originally painted in "Citrus Colors". The train was lightweight coach only train. Budd built. See J.D. Thompson's earlier post for the roster of coaches. There is a picture on page 59 of the original coaches in R.W. Johnson's book "Thru the Heart of the South" by Boston Mill Press. There are a few pictures of #3006 on page 180 of Calloway/Withers book "Seaboard-Motive Power". Also in same book page 184 is #3011 & #3012 with the "Silver Meteor" nameplate on the sides. In the winter of 1939 the Meteor was expanded to two trains. An east coast section and a west coast section. Two new 7 car sets plus and additional diner and 2 chair cars for the west coast section were added. This permitted operation on a daily basis for the NY to Miami run and every third day from NY to St. Petersburg. Running time was reduced to 25 hours from NY to Miami, guess why???(ACL) In 1941 Pullman sleepers were added to the train which had grown to 13 cars. The train now consisted of the original 7 plus 2 lounge cars, an additional diner and 3 sleepers. In 1949 lightweight sleepers replaced the heavyweight Pullmans. For the Steamers here is a tidbit: During 1940 the additional lightweight equipment allowed daily operation of the Wildwood-St.Petersburg, Fl. connection. SAL added some shrouds or streamlining to 4 class P 4-6-2's # 865-868. These were painted in a version of "Citrus Colors". They lasted till mid WW2 when they were replaced by 4-8-2's. No repaints on these, just standard black...Sam...
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Re: Trucks
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
I have a PFE that I built when the Tichy kits first came out. Tony also did an article in RMC and I just looked and one of the cars has Simplex high speed timken (Red Ball) on it. If Tony is around he might chime in on which of the PFEs had these trucks.
Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Old PFE Reefer
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Bruce Smith wrote:
I think you're right that new or reconditioned cars in 1936 would have the enameled steel medalions applied without "System". Look at the photo on page 128. Do you agree that it has a steel medalion without "System" rather than stenciled? Perhaps Tony or Richard can confirm?I've been at the Bay Area LD/OP SIGs meeting all day. Here's my comments. One: I have a good print of the photo on page 128 of the PFE book, and it is NOT an enameled medallion. Two: please consult the lettering diagram facing page 432 of the 2nd edition PFE book. You will note that "SYSTEM" has been removed, and the latest revision date of the drawing is 12-12-35. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Trucks
Schuyler Larrabee
In case TMW is paying some attention to this, I’m interested in some of these trucks.
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Kadee parts
Schuyler Larrabee
TBO'C I always figured that it was a spacer to use when the bottom of the end sill was inconveniently too high and the other part needed to be blocked down to the right height. If you look at the "mystery part," there is a blank space where the upper flange of the bracket would fit neatly. SGL La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce! E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14250 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: Trucks
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Jon,
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There might more of a market than you think. The /Taylor coil spring is a caboose truck for various roads. Symington and Simplex haven't been readily available in some time. I admit, there other truck makers I might not be aware of as yet. After 50 years in the hobby, things get fuzzy sometimes. Fred Freitas
--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Jon Miller <atsf@izap.com> wrote:
From: Jon Miller <atsf@izap.com> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Trucks To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 5:12 PM I just ran across some Red Ball sheets I have. In case TMW has a what will I do next moment I thought I'd throw out some names that Red Ball made. I do admit that if made they may not sell more than a dozen pair<VBG>! Taylor coil or leaf spring Barber stabilized Bettendorf heavy duty Symington-Gould hi-speed Simplex high speed timken Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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