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Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Tim,
My success rate was low, too. Of 3 sons and 1 daughter, only 1 son is a model railroader. The jury is still out on a couple of grandsons.
Gene

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Gene <snip> Boys seem more easily infected. :-)

Tim O'Connor

Thomas may deliver the next generation of modelers.
Gene Green


Re: Magazine Index Going to NMRA

asychis@...
 

Information was received this evening from Milwaukee that Kalmbach has
agreed to a proposal in which NMRA will assume responsibility for
restructuring and maintaining the model railroad magazine index. Presumably
it will be
accessible to the public.

Does this, then mean the NMRA website is more secure than Kalmbach's?
Curious.

Jerry Michels


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Richard Townsend
 

Tim,

Maybe I'm just too much of an optimist. While I tend to agree with your assessment of the photographs, they still aren't the actual models. I'll wait to make up my mind. A couple of months age we were criticizing the MTH photos, at least some of which weren't photos of MTH models at all. Now we're looking at photos of something called "first engineering test shots." I draw from that name the conclusion we are not necessarily looking at the models in their final forms. I hope (but not with much conviction) they will not have molded on grabs and ladders. I hope they will be accurate. But without seeing them, or hearing from those who have, I am not willing to decide they are dogs. Yet. Maybe they are being shown in their final forms at the train show as I write this, and one of our brothers will report.

P.S. You've seen lots of galaxies, including the one we're in. <VBG>

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2010 10:00 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show




Richard

I've haven't seen any galaxies either except in photographs, but
I can still make out a few details can't I? The photos in Bachmann's
PDF satisified all my curiousity about their freight cars. Not every
new model is worth thinking about, especially a completely redundant
model (this makes the FOURTH plastic HO scale USRA hopper).

Tim O'Connor

A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon






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Re: PRSL Hoppers

MOFWCABOOSE@...
 

I saw one back in 1959 and have been kicking myself ever since for not taking a picture of it. It was at the wye in South Woodbury and yes, was MofW gray, with the PRSL letters arranged diagonally, and a number which I cannot recall for certain, but I believe was in the low 200s (201? 202?).

PRSL work equipment pictures seem to be among the rarest of all pictures; very seldom see any. Because I lived in Sewell I managed to get a fair number, but many cars eluded me, and the hoppers were among them.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

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Subject: [STMFC] PRSL Hoppers





All,

I know it is a long shot. Does anyone have any photos of PRSL hoppers? They
appear to be GLc, GLca or GLcb mostly likely in M O W gray. They lurked in
the background at Cold Spring Harbor as best as I can tell. I have 2 OK
partial photos but would really like photos of just the cars if possible. I
have 2 heavily reworked American Flyer cars that look like a GLca and are
going to get dunked and repainted.

Conversely I have seen photos of N&W, B&O and a H21 in the same spot.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL


Re: New Accurail Tooling

Tim O'Connor
 

Andy

Search the archives for Bill Welch's post:

"Modeling FGE/WFE/BRE/NX Steel cars"

Then search for FHIX or WHIX

Tim O'Connor

At 7/15/2010 11:18 PM Thursday, you wrote:
Gents,

It seems that Accurail has announced some new tooling on their website at http://www.accurail.com/accurail/new.htm

8300-Series 40' Steel Refrigerator Cars http://www.accurail.com/accurail/8300.HTM

8500-Series 40' Steel Plug Door Boxcars
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/8500.HTM

Thoughts on true prototypes for these?

Andy L.
South Bend, IN


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Tim O'Connor
 

Richard

I've haven't seen any galaxies either except in photographs, but
I can still make out a few details can't I? The photos in Bachmann's
PDF satisified all my curiousity about their freight cars. Not every
new model is worth thinking about, especially a completely redundant
model (this makes the FOURTH plastic HO scale USRA hopper).

Tim O'Connor

A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Scott Pitzer
 

There are models of Thomas, even though he only has one paint scheme? I would have thought they wouldn't do it unless he got a new image repaint, was sold off to several shortlines and transit agencies, and was downgraded to maintenance of way (orange.)
Life-Like made insulated coolers (some of them rather clunky), and (in the Proto2000 line) great freight cars too, so Thomas shouldn't preclude good freight cars from Bachmann.
Scott Pitzer


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Tim O'Connor
 

Gene

I tried Thomas on my daughters; they loved Thomas. Plus HO scale trains; they
both thought that was cool. Plus real train trips across the country; those were
a blast. All to no avail. Trains are in the blood -- you either got it, or you
don't. Boys seem more easily infected. :-)

Tim O'Connor

Thomas may deliver the next generation of modelers.
Gene Green


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

rwitt_2000
 

Gene Green wrote:

Gentlemen and a lady or two, I hope,

Let us not dismiss Thomas too lightly.

I worked as a weekend volunteer in the RR museum in El Paso. Parents
brought in youngsters in approximately the 4 to 10 age range who were
slobbering Thomas fanatics. In most cases the interest in Thomas was
easily directed towards the real thing. That applied not only to
children but their mothers in a number of cases as well. No fathers,
just mothers.

Thomas may deliver the next generation of modelers.
I have to agree with Gene on this one. Our club exhibited with a
railroad museum in Indiana for two weekends for a "Day Out with Thomas".
We had 14,000 view the layout. There were boys and girls who spent over
an hour quietly watching the model trains run. Some would bring a parent
back three or four times to look at the operating model trains. Whether
their other life experiences will allow them to become model railroaders
and especially freight car modelers only time will tell., but some
already were very serious about trains.

Regards,

Bob Witt


PRSL Hoppers

Bill Lane
 

All,

I know it is a long shot. Does anyone have any photos of PRSL hoppers? They
appear to be GLc, GLca or GLcb mostly likely in M O W gray. They lurked in
the background at Cold Spring Harbor as best as I can tell. I have 2 OK
partial photos but would really like photos of just the cars if possible. I
have 2 heavily reworked American Flyer cars that look like a GLca and are
going to get dunked and repainted.

Conversely I have seen photos of N&W, B&O and a H21 in the same spot.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Todd Horton
 

"A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?"

You're correct Rich, we should withold judgment until they hit the shelves.  The
RS-3 grabbed my attention more than anything. Maybe it will be a nice piece. 

Thomas probably will be responsible for bringing a new era of modelers,  There
may be a "Proto Thomas" group brewing as we speak :-)

Todd Horton



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From: "richtownsend@netscape.net" <richtownsend@netscape.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 11:19:06 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

 
A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Richard Townsend
 

A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Gentlemen and a lady or two, I hope,

Let us not dismiss Thomas too lightly.

I worked as a weekend volunteer in the RR museum in El Paso. Parents brought in youngsters in approximately the 4 to 10 age range who were slobbering Thomas fanatics. In most cases the interest in Thomas was easily directed towards the real thing. That applied not only to children but their mothers in a number of cases as well. No fathers, just mothers.

Thomas may deliver the next generation of modelers.

Gene Green


Re: Magazine Index Going to NMRA

Jack Burgess
 

That is great to hear. I've been talking to Joe Fugate and newly-appointed NMRA VP Bill Kaufman during this past week at the Milwaukee NMRA convention about getting the data base to the NMRA. Joe offered to re-port the data and Bill will be getting volunteers to get it updated and maintain it.

Jack Burgess

On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Rhbale@aol.com wrote:


Information was received this evening from Milwaukee that Kalmbach has
agreed to a proposal in which NMRA will assume responsibility for
restructuring and maintaining the model railroad magazine index. Presumably it will be
accessible to the public.

Richard Bale, News Editor
_www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com_ (http://www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com/)






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Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

riverman_vt <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rwitt_2000" <rwitt_2000@...> wrote:

According to their publicity document, Bachmann will be announcing > a USRA twin hopper in HO scale at the NMRA 2010 Train Show, that
started today. The road names will be PRR, C&O, B&O, WM, D&H, and
Clinchfield.

Models of this hopper car will be as ubiquious as the models of the
EMD F7.

And any done well enough that one might consider purchasing some will be as scarce as hen's teeth!


Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Barrybennetttoo@...
 

Here in the UK we find it rather odd that US children would be so attracted
as there is no way that Thomas could be associated with US railroads.


As much as I detest Thomas at railway events, and I always avoid visiting
any that have the detestable Thomas present, it does bring in huge numbers
of people who may not have attended otherwise. This generates a nice cash
boost (minus the rip-off rates from the concession owners) and, if only 5% of
the kids get to be railfans/volunteers/engine drivers or whatever, will
ensure that there will be a future for the railfan and railway preservation
community.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Funny thing is, Bachmann is capable of making rolling stock models with good detail. Here's an example from their UK "Branchline" line--

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/image_box.php?image=images1/branchline/38-210.jpg&cat_no=38-210&info=0&width=629&height=245

And from their Chinese line, a tank car with what looks like decent detail--

http://www.bachmannchina.com.cn/products/imgs/chinese/709.jpg

So, why the nice North American loco's and crappy STMFC's from Bachmann? Though it may not be much of an issue, as so far what Bachmann produces in STMFC's pretty well duplicates existing models.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:

"How can Bachmann produce such wonderful steam locomotives and such
awful freight cars"

Tim O'Connor
 
I guess when you're offering Thomas the tank engine trains it doesn't need much
explanation  :-)

 
Todd Horton




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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 7:10:29 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

 

According to their publicity document, Bachmann will be announcing a
USRA twin hopper in HO scale at the NMRA 2010 Train Show, that started
today. The road names will be PRR, C&O, B&O, WM, D&H, and Clinchfield.
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/2010_NMRA.pdf
?????

Bob, wasn't this announced or at least leaked months ago? Or was
that MTH? Anyway, it doesn't look any better in the PDF file than
an Accurail USRA hopper, which costs 1/2 as much.

And the HO sliding door box car?? What a HOOT! It's got a diagonal
panel roof (terribly rendered if that test shot is real) and 5/5
WWII dreadnaught ends and an improved Youngstown door. It's like
one of those rubber-mold Athearn knockoffs you find at flea markets!

How can Bachmann produce such wonderful steam locomotives and such
awful freight cars?

Tim O'Connor







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Re: IMRC 1958 cu ft hopper + Microscale 87-660

Ed Hawkins
 

On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Andy Cich wrote:

Thanks. That helps me pick out a couple cars to build.

I do have a question regarding the WESTVACO CHEMICAL DIVISION, FOOD
MACHINERY AND CHEMICAL CORP lettering. The lettering diagram included
in
the decal sheet does not show a lettering break for the side ribs.
Was the
lettering placed on a "lettering panel" added to the ribs? If so, was
it a
single panel for both rows of lettering? Or was it two panels, one
for each
row?
Andy,
The answer is that it depends on the series of cars. Cars painted black
assigned to SHPX 25478-25480, built 9-50, had lettering applied to flat
surfaces as well as the side posts. However, these cars had a different
roof and hatch configuration than the InterMountain model has.

Gray cars in series SHPX 25481-25500, built 6-51, had lettering applied
only to the flat side panels.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: [SPAM]Re: IMRC 1958 cu ft hopper + Microscale 87-660

Andy Cich
 

Ed,



Thanks. That helps me pick out a couple cars to build.



I do have a question regarding the WESTVACO CHEMICAL DIVISION, FOOD
MACHINERY AND CHEMICAL CORP lettering. The lettering diagram included in
the decal sheet does not show a lettering break for the side ribs. Was the
lettering placed on a "lettering panel" added to the ribs? If so, was it a
single panel for both rows of lettering? Or was it two panels, one for each
row?



Andy Cich


Magazine Index Going to NMRA

Rhbale@...
 

Information was received this evening from Milwaukee that Kalmbach has
agreed to a proposal in which NMRA will assume responsibility for
restructuring and maintaining the model railroad magazine index. Presumably it will be
accessible to the public.

Richard Bale, News Editor
_www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com_ (http://www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com/)

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