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Repetitive emails

Rich Yoder
 

Have any of you experienced Repetitive email problems with Comcast?

Everything that is posited I receive 5 times from this group and this group
only.



Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

7 Edgedale Court

Wyomissing PA 19610-1913

Call between 6:00 PM and 10:00 PM EST

610-678-2834

www.richyodermodels.com



RYM-Plateest 1999


Re: Sunshine 34.25 WFEX Postwar steel reefer

Bill Welch
 

Yes the kit I have has the PDS for the WFE & FGE steel cars but instructions are for the plywood version

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@...> wrote:

While inventorying the above kit I noticed it has PDS 90B, but the
instructions as for the FGEX, BREX, WFEX wartime reefers. Were there
specific instructions for this kit or are the ones for the wartime reefers
correct. I'd appreciate confirmation from other owners of this kit. I
believe I got this at Naperville in 2009.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...


Re: Erie 78000-78499

Brian Carlson
 

There are some photos online at the Fallen flags site. Here is one of the
end

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78249adb.jpg



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@yahoo.com



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Trackman
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:23 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Erie 78000-78499





I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of the ends
to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it figured out but
would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: Erie 78000-78499

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Sep 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Trackman wrote:

I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of
the ends to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it
figured out but would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the
ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components
John, as it happens, I have a builder's end view and a 1951 in-
service 3/4 view which show those ends quite clearly. I'm sending
you scans off-list.

Richard Hendrickson


Erie 78000-78499

Trackman <jfpautz@...>
 

I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of the ends to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it figured out but would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: Sunshine 34.25 WFEX Postwar steel reefer

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

Brian, I have kit 34.26, the FGEX version. It also has the #90B PDS, and instructions for 40' steel reefers with PFE R-40-10 photos. I got it from Martin at the Santa Fe meet in late July.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@...> wrote:

While inventorying the above kit I noticed it has PDS 90B, but the
instructions as for the FGEX, BREX, WFEX wartime reefers. Were there
specific instructions for this kit or are the ones for the wartime reefers
correct. I'd appreciate confirmation from other owners of this kit. I
believe I got this at Naperville in 2009.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...


Sunshine 34.25 WFEX Postwar steel reefer

Brian Carlson
 

While inventorying the above kit I noticed it has PDS 90B, but the
instructions as for the FGEX, BREX, WFEX wartime reefers. Were there
specific instructions for this kit or are the ones for the wartime reefers
correct. I'd appreciate confirmation from other owners of this kit. I
believe I got this at Naperville in 2009.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@yahoo.com


Re: was 40 year rule? When retro with RB trucks?

water.kresse@...
 

Thanks Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: brianleppert@att.net
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 2:54:40 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: was 40 year rule? When retro with RB trucks?



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

When did the railroads have to replace older trucks with roller-bearing journaled trucks to keep older cars in inter-change service.  I'm looking at 1942-1946 built 70-ton covered hopper cars that stayed in revenue service until 1988-89.
 
Al Kresse
Al, look for message #7534 in our archives.  Compiled by Jeff English, it covers AAR interchange dates, from 1870 to 1996.

1991 is given as the year that plain bearing trucks were banned.  These would be 70 ton capacity and under, as higher capacity cars had to have roller bearings by 1974.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV



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GOPX (Gas-Oil Products) LPG tankcar

jerryglow2
 

I have revised my GOPX (Gas-Oil Products) LPG tankcar set for Atlas' car to include lettering for Miami, Florida cars same builder's lot and paint scheme. The original set was for Oxford, PA based cars.

see drawing at: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/decals.html

Jerry Glow


Re: NRC/IC Reefers

Jim Hayes
 

A kit for the NRC/IC reefer with flat plate ends is available from Stan
Rydarowicz
www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/stan34nrc19414.jpg

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>wrote:




I agree with Richard that the NRC-IC cars all appear to be DESPATCH
built. However, I have a shot of NRC-GM&O 19593 with R+2/4 ends and
this car matches several shots of MDT-IC reefers in the 136xx-137xx
series. I'd like to know more about these MDT 13xxx reefers (which
includes MDT-NYC 133xx) -- in particular, I have no roof shots of
them so I don't know if they have RP, DP, or Despatch roofs.

I also have a late 1950's shot of NRC-GM&O 19208 with flat plate
riveted ends!!

Also, MDT-IC 13662 has the circular fan plate and mechanical drive
to the RIGHT HAND side of the door -- the only time I've ever seen
this. None of the other MDT 13xxx cars has any visible fan stuff,
but the ORER listing indicates they all had Preco or Equipco electric
fans. (Any way to tell a car has electric fans by looking at it?)

The last independent ORER listing I have for NRC is 1959. By 1963
NRC is combined with MDT in the ORER. Anyone know exactly when the
combination of the two took place?

Tim O'Connor

JOhn Golden asked me a question off-list for which others may want to
know the answer:

Why does Intermountain have some of these cars with NRC reporting
marks--I'm sure there's a good explanation.

After World War II, instead of enlarging it's own fleet of steel
reefers to replace its aging 1920s wood reefers, the Illinois Central
began leasing reefers from the Northern Refrigerator Car Co., the
leasing subsidiary of New York Central's Merchants Dispatch
Transportation Co. These cars, operated under NRC reporting marks,
had Illinois Central heralds, diamond heralds at first and later
(after the period covered by the STMFC list) circle i heralds.
However, the Intermountain models are incorrect; the prototype NRC
cars were of MDT design, with roofs, ends, and other details that
were different from those on the cars the IC owned.

Richard Hendrickson


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Some HO steam era freight car stuff no longer needed

Brian Carlson
 

Guys. I have 3 pair of Kadee HO ASF A-3 sprung trucks available. $2 each or
all for $5 plus shipping.

I also have the 2009 Cocoa Beach shake and take kit, a UP Stock car, that I
am not going to build. The "What's on your workbench" thread caused me to
recall it. Since it was freely given, I will give it to anyone for the cost
of shipping. It includes the Accurail kit, resin ends, decals, and
instructions.

If anyone is interested in any of the above please contact me ------>>>>>OFF
LIST<<<<<<------ at the email below. Thanks.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@yahoo.com


Re: ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent

Rich C
 

Tru-Color offers TCP-19 Santa Fe Brown
 
http://www.trucolorpaint.com/index.php?p=1_2_Paint-Products
 
Rich Christie

--- On Sun, 9/5/10, StephenK <thekays100@gmail.com> wrote:


From: StephenK <thekays100@gmail.com>
Subject: [STMFC] ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 1:57 PM


 



I am painting up a couple of PS1 box cars with the ATSF name train scheme and am looking for some guidance on color. The cars are supposed to be "Mineral Brown." Floquil makes the color in its solvent line, but my cars are plastic. I generally use Scalecoat II since it dries glossy for decaling, but they don't make a color specifically named "Mineral Brown" They make three versions of boxcar red plus a few other maroon/tuscan shades that might do it. I have bottles of "box car red" and "box car red 2" (2 is redder than 1) but still could use a little info.

Is there a glossy, plastic compatible color that is a decent match for ATSF Mineral brown?

SKay











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TAHOE MODEL WORKS TRUCKS

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks to Brian at TMW, I have all of the TMW trucks in stock with the
semi-scale wheelsets. To all of those who have been patient, and waited, your
time has arrived!

201- Dalman two-level plain
202- Dalman two-level w/ lateral motion device
203- Arch Bar
204- Barber Swing Motion Caboose
205- Barber-Bettendorf Swing Motion Caboose
206- Buckeye spring-plank cast steel truck
207- Double Truss self-aligning non-stabilized cast steel truck
208- Coil-elliptic 50-ton cast steel truck
209- Barber lateral Motion cast steel truck

I also have Intermountain Wheelsets in code 88 (semi-scale width) 12 packs

If interested, it is highly recommended that you contact me off-List at
<midcentury@sbcglobal.net>

If interested, Please contact me off-list at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net>

By decree of the powers that be--contact should be off-list at
<midcentury@sbcglobal.net>

********NOTE******* DO NOT REPLY TO THE STMFC LIST!!!!

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Tank on ERIE 7234 flat car

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=13146&start=15

The tank weighed about 66 tons. The photo is obviously after 6/51 and testing was completed on this tank in the mid-50's.

KL
1920E0905


Re: ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent

Steve SANDIFER
 

I use Floquil straight on plastic with no problem, and Floquil's "Mineral Brown" is good. Due to fading, you can have several shades lighter and it is still okay.

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----- Original Message -----
From: StephenK
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: [STMFC] ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent



I am painting up a couple of PS1 box cars with the ATSF name train scheme and am looking for some guidance on color. The cars are supposed to be "Mineral Brown." Floquil makes the color in its solvent line, but my cars are plastic. I generally use Scalecoat II since it dries glossy for decaling, but they don't make a color specifically named "Mineral Brown" They make three versions of boxcar red plus a few other maroon/tuscan shades that might do it. I have bottles of "box car red" and "box car red 2" (2 is redder than 1) but still could use a little info.

Is there a glossy, plastic compatible color that is a decent match for ATSF Mineral brown?

SKay


Re: ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

If the Floquil paint you have was purchased in the recent past, it is perfectly safe for plastic. You can check on the side of the label, it should say "contains petroleum distillates", if so you're good to go.
Floquil changed it's entire line some years ago to an enamel product.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "StephenK" <thekays100@...> wrote:

I am painting up a couple of PS1 box cars with the ATSF name train scheme and am looking for some guidance on color. The cars are supposed to be "Mineral Brown." Floquil makes the color in its solvent line, but my cars are plastic. I generally use Scalecoat II since it dries glossy for decaling, but they don't make a color specifically named "Mineral Brown" They make three versions of boxcar red plus a few other maroon/tuscan shades that might do it. I have bottles of "box car red" and "box car red 2" (2 is redder than 1) but still could use a little info.

Is there a glossy, plastic compatible color that is a decent match for ATSF Mineral brown?

SKay


Re: was 40 year rule? When retro with RB trucks?

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian

I have photos of 100 ton plain bearing CSXT gondolas on Conrail in 1994.
I even opened the journal box covers to be sure.

As I said, these are bans only from unrestricted interchange.

Tim O'Connor

1991 is given as the year that plain bearing trucks were banned. These would be 70 ton capacity and under, as higher capacity cars had to have roller bearings by 1974.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


ATSF Mineral Brown Equivalent

StephenK
 

I am painting up a couple of PS1 box cars with the ATSF name train scheme and am looking for some guidance on color. The cars are supposed to be "Mineral Brown." Floquil makes the color in its solvent line, but my cars are plastic. I generally use Scalecoat II since it dries glossy for decaling, but they don't make a color specifically named "Mineral Brown" They make three versions of boxcar red plus a few other maroon/tuscan shades that might do it. I have bottles of "box car red" and "box car red 2" (2 is redder than 1) but still could use a little info.

Is there a glossy, plastic compatible color that is a decent match for ATSF Mineral brown?

SKay


Re: was 40 year rule? When retro with RB trucks?

brianleppert@att.net
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

When did the railroads have to replace older trucks with roller-bearing journaled trucks to keep older cars in inter-change service.  I'm looking at 1942-1946 built 70-ton covered hopper cars that stayed in revenue service until 1988-89.

Al Kresse
Al, look for message #7534 in our archives. Compiled by Jeff English, it covers AAR interchange dates, from 1870 to 1996.

1991 is given as the year that plain bearing trucks were banned. These would be 70 ton capacity and under, as higher capacity cars had to have roller bearings by 1974.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Norwest Scale Models

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Pierre--

You KNOW that you are "the other gent" on this list. :)

NorWest had an extensive line of Canadian and some US cars, but I get the distinct impression that all kits of theirs were a bit of work to build. As usual with resin kits, they modelled stuff not otherwise available.

It's nice to read of the CC&F tank cars possibly coming back. I could use three or more. Now if they were produced in RTR or undec...just dreaming again. (sigh)

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

I tihnk that I'm the "other gentleman" that Steve alludes to.
When Brian Pate, who started Nor-West was doing the casting him self, the end results were some of the finest resin casting at the time. For a variety of reasons Brian had Pro-Mosdel Builders take over casting and things were never the same.
The CC&F tankcar kit had the dubious honour of being one of a short list of kits that I will not accept commision to build. Far too much time was required to clean the underframe casting and still end up with an unsatisfactory result. It would have been quicker to scratch biuild a new underframe. The tank was delight full, on the other hand.
I have been told that it is very likely that we will see CC&F tankcars again before too long. That's all I can say at this point.
"Patience young Jedi" :-)
Pierre Oliver
It's obvious that the masters were of superb quality, but NorWest tried to do too much as single assemblies, IMHO. Another gent that I know on this list can expand on NorWest kit issues. Nice stuff, but a lot of work to build.

I'd LOVE to see the tank car come out again. I'd be inclined to try making masters for this car (the G/A drawings are in Gregg's Train Shed Cyclopedia #12) if I didn't have so many other irons in the fire right now...but never say never!!

Steve Lucas.

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