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Re: Andrews truck with power pickups

Robert Allan
 

Seems to me the Proto 2000 NE Caboose had Andrews trucks with electrical pick-up. Might be able to find a basket case at a show or on the auction site.

Bob Allan


NP Mystery Car

Andy Carlson
 

Going back to the era of this car I would presume the car to be a Hog Fuel car, hog fuel being the mill slabs and other mill detritus. Chips were to come around later. The Spokane Portland & Seattle RR had at east one car, pictured in the Morning sun book on SP&S equipment by Ed Austin.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 7:39:09 AM PST, Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...> wrote:


Notice there is no door on the car, essentially making it an extremely tall gon. That says sawdust or wood chip car when sitting in the Pacific northwest.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:08 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Mystery Car

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:27 AM, np328 wrote:

  From the spur that the photographer was on in the prior photo. A D&RGW gon is being unloaded at A E Powell. Note all the different coal sizes.The car to the left appears to have limestone(?) Over the large pile of coal I believe are the towers of the other two train stations.

Can't be limestone, waaay too big a car for any mineral product, must either be sawdust or slash. Was cut slash sold as firewood back in those years?

Dennis Storzek


Re: NP Mystery Car

Douglas Harding
 

Notice there is no door on the car, essentially making it an extremely tall gon. That says sawdust or wood chip car when sitting in the Pacific northwest.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:08 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Mystery Car

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:27 AM, np328 wrote:

  From the spur that the photographer was on in the prior photo. A D&RGW gon is being unloaded at A E Powell. Note all the different coal sizes.The car to the left appears to have limestone(?) Over the large pile of coal I believe are the towers of the other two train stations.

Can't be limestone, waaay too big a car for any mineral product, must either be sawdust or slash. Was cut slash sold as firewood back in those years?

Dennis Storzek


Re: NP Mystery Car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Dick and List Members,
 
Thanks Dick for the great photos.
 
The 1919 Car Builders Cyc page 271 shows what looks to be one of these cars (but without roof hatches), car shown is NP 101069. The cation sez "Long Wooden 40-Ton 4030 cu ft Capacity Box Car for Collecting L. C. L. Freight from Team Tracks"
 
You can see the 1919 Car Builders Cyc at this link https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000552394
 
This next link may possibly take you to the page in question https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006057858&view=1up&seq=291
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
From: np328
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Mystery Car

   I had always thought the cars LCL however had missed the roof hatches.   The location though is Spokane, looking west and just east of the NP Spokane station, and about to cross over the intersection of Division and Sprague. 

I'll attach some photos from my collections.
  Spokane looking west towards the former NP station, now the only passenger station and beyond the date of this list will be the Amtrak station.  Circa 1928 all photos. 

   From the spur that the photographer was on in the prior photo. A D&RGW gon is being unloaded at A E Powell. Note all the different coal sizes.The car to the left appears to have limestone(?) Over the large pile of coal I believe are the towers of the other two train stations.

At UP tower, (for Mike and Jeff) and that is the UP running from left to right. Note the UP style lower quadrant home signal guarding the NP main. On the lower left, the descending spur has a derail and dwarf signal. I'd always wondered where Lionel copied switch machine shrouds and were they accurate? Looks like they were. And the yard lead beyond the crossing, what kind of modeler would build a yard lead like that?    

East of the downtown area were the Spokane Union Stockyards. They are behind our right shoulder in the photo. The NP mainline is in the trench on the left. 

The NP's Parkwater engine terminal. Turntable is 85 foot. If you thought your modeling space was tight, look at all the frogs at the turntables edge. This was not uncommon for NP. 

The NP's largest (in terms of cars that could be serviced) icing station was at Parkwater. A 1300 foot platform serving 29 refrigerator cars on each side. 

Some Spokane from when switch lanterns were lite each evening.                                                              Jim Dick 


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

 

Interesting to note most roofs where painted and still had paint on them.

Gordon Spalty


Re: NP Mystery Car

Dennis Storzek
 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:27 AM, np328 wrote:
  From the spur that the photographer was on in the prior photo. A D&RGW gon is being unloaded at A E Powell. Note all the different coal sizes.The car to the left appears to have limestone(?) Over the large pile of coal I believe are the towers of the other two train stations.
Can't be limestone, waaay too big a car for any mineral product, must either be sawdust or slash. Was cut slash sold as firewood back in those years?

Dennis Storzek


Re: Santa Fe Freight Near Victorville - Mystery Loads

 

I thought having tank cars next to caboose was not allowed... so?

Gordon Spalty


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

gtws00
 

Thanks to both Jim Hayes for creating the Sunshine Kits Website and Eric Hansmann for working with Jim to rescue and move it. 
George Toman
Willow Springs, IL


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Eric Hansmann
 

The Sunshine Kits website has been renewed for another month.


I'm working with Jim to transfer the domain to Resin Car Works ownership. I'll share more details as this develops.



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On February 25, 2020 at 5:20 AM Ryan Laroche <laroche1987@...> wrote:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160324162818/http://sunshinekits.com/index.html

The wayback machine is an excellent resource for situations such as this... 

Ryan Laroche 
Red Deer County, AB

 


Re: What is the major difference between these cars ???

Paul Doggett
 

Rich

Thank you I think I will be building two Wabash cars as I have so much to do.

Many thanks
Paul

On 26 Feb 2020, at 00:55, Rich Yoder <@oscale48> wrote:

Hi Paul,
There are several differences. Door hardware, Door track both top and bottom. Ladder rungs on WAB - C&IE has a ladder. It appears that the WAB has a fish belly center sill. I doubt they were built by the same company.
Rich Yoder

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:57 AM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] What is the major difference between these cars ???

Hi what are the ends on the C&EI car and are the any other major differences between them.

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿







Re: NP Mystery Car

np328
 

   I had always thought the cars LCL however had missed the roof hatches.   The location though is Spokane, looking west and just east of the NP Spokane station, and about to cross over the intersection of Division and Sprague. 

I'll attach some photos from my collections.
  Spokane looking west towards the former NP station, now the only passenger station and beyond the date of this list will be the Amtrak station.  Circa 1928 all photos. 

   From the spur that the photographer was on in the prior photo. A D&RGW gon is being unloaded at A E Powell. Note all the different coal sizes.The car to the left appears to have limestone(?) Over the large pile of coal I believe are the towers of the other two train stations.

At UP tower, (for Mike and Jeff) and that is the UP running from left to right. Note the UP style lower quadrant home signal guarding the NP main. On the lower left, the descending spur has a derail and dwarf signal. I'd always wondered where Lionel copied switch machine shrouds and were they accurate? Looks like they were. And the yard lead beyond the crossing, what kind of modeler would build a yard lead like that?    

East of the downtown area were the Spokane Union Stockyards. They are behind our right shoulder in the photo. The NP mainline is in the trench on the left. 

The NP's Parkwater engine terminal. Turntable is 85 foot. If you thought your modeling space was tight, look at all the frogs at the turntables edge. This was not uncommon for NP. 

The NP's largest (in terms of cars that could be serviced) icing station was at Parkwater. A 1300 foot platform serving 29 refrigerator cars on each side. 

Some Spokane from when switch lanterns were lite each evening.                                                              Jim Dick 


Re: Piedmont & Northern 1101 ready for Priming

Bill Welch
 

I have used them when lines of rivets are required. When small groups and individual rivets are needed harvesting is easier and faster for me.

Bill Welch


Re: Andrews truck with power pickups

william darnaby
 

To facilitate moving freight cars on my railroad I replaced a pair of failed P2K 0-8-0 tender trucks with those from Bethlehem Car Works equipped with home made wipers to create 8 wheel pickup.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Andrews truck with power pickups

 

Not to hijack this thread, but does anyone know where I could buy some replacement Andrews trucks for the Life-Like USRA switch engines?  I have twice now suffered a melted truck thanks to a short across a gap.  At one time extra tenders were available, and I fixed the first melted truck by replacing it with a truck from an extra tender, but I now have a sound-equipped DCC 0-8-0 that is useless.

 

Oh, and oops, I realize that on this list, I need to mention that I use my 0-8-0s to switch FREIGHT CARS!!

 

Whew!

 

Schuyler

 

 


Re: NP Mystery Car

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Maybe wood chips, but I see roof hatches, one being open.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 9:01 PM
To: <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Mystery Car

 

Wood chips. Note lack of roof.

Tony Thompson 



On Feb 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:

This car appears to have been a LCL Transfer Car, but whats with all the small doors?

One suggestion is a sawdust car.

The notes with the photo say Tacoma Division, but one respondent says it looks like Spokane.

-Hudson

<73510-012 Tacoma NP.jpg>


Re: NP Mystery Car

Tony Thompson
 

Wood chips. Note lack of roof.
Tony Thompson 


On Feb 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:

This car appears to have been a LCL Transfer Car, but whats with all the small doors?

One suggestion is a sawdust car.

The notes with the photo say Tacoma Division, but one respondent says it looks like Spokane.

-Hudson
<73510-012 Tacoma NP.jpg>


NP Mystery Car

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 

This car appears to have been a LCL Transfer Car, but whats with all the small doors?

One suggestion is a sawdust car.

The notes with the photo say Tacoma Division, but one respondent says it looks like Spokane.

-Hudson


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

rwitt_2000
 

I see a lone B&O AAR triple hopper, just below the power plant chimney. Probably a single load to a coal yard of some type of specialized coal.

Bob Witt


Re: Looking for GN Monogram—Side Facing Goat: Great Northern Railway

Doug Paasch
 

As RJDial mentioned, the 1936 date for the side facing goat was not for freight cars.  The side goat was first used for freight cars in 1941 as he said.  The 1936 date was for locomotives' first use of the side goat.

Doug Paasch


On Feb 25, 2020 5:54 PM, "Brian Stokes" <bstokesndp@...> wrote:
The "historic collections" #1 and 2 do have dates. The side-facing "silhouette" style Goat herald started in 1936. I can't say for certain what size it was, but I could inquire for you over on the GNRHS io group if you want. I'm a GN steam-era modeller and I can't even keep track of the heralds. Usually I just work from photos. 


--
Brian Stokes
https://northpoint48.blogspot.com/


Re: Ice Reefer Conversions to Mechanical?

np328
 

   About 1970 ?  So well, well, way off the time frame of this list.                                                                 Jim Dick     


Re: Piedmont & Northern 1101 ready for Priming

Mike Settle
 

Have you guys heard of Archer Fine Transfers? He makes rivets in various sizes. He is very popular with the military modelers.

Mike Settle