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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Yes, the CN Red #11 has a rich oxide color, not as bright as the regular
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Scalecoat Oxide Red (SC #2), The Red #12 is a deeper more Tuscan Red. Scalecoat also nows makes SC-87 (Boxcar Red #2) and SC-88 (Boxcar Red #3) and SC-81 (PRR Freight Car Red) as well as the old SC-13 (Boxcar Red) which has a slightly more maroonish hue. They're all great for mixing & matching! Tim O'Connor
At 1/24/2010 08:30 AM Sunday, you wrote:
It may have been a slip or typo but Scalecoat #11 is what Ed told me. I suspect he meant the CN red #11 as Armand pointed out. I don't know it's accuracy but notice Modelflex has a paint called GM&O red;
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Re: Removing Athearn Lettering
When I recently stripped an Athearn 65' gondola in Chameleon stripper
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I noticed the lettering sloughed off easily and separately from the paint. So from this clue, if I wanted just to remove the letters, I would first try to put a little stripper on a Q-Tip and see if that would soften the letters without damaging the paint... Don't use any stripper with isopropyl alcohol because that will really go after the paint Athearn (i.e. China) is using now! Tim O'Connor
At 1/23/2010 11:22 PM Saturday, you wrote:
I have an inquiry from a modeler who is not on this list about how to
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Armand
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Yes my bottles say CN Lines SIG Red #11 and Red #12, but there is no Scalecoat catalog number. I bought mine at Des Plaines Hobbies and I think it was a custom mix for the CN SIG. The Scalecoat CN Lines SIG Orange #12 is darn close to PFE Orange... Tim O'Connor
At 1/23/2010 09:36 PM Saturday, you wrote:
I believe that Scalecoat makes a special paint labeled CN # 11 which may be close to GM&O red.Armand Premo
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
rdietrichson
Bob,
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Can you please contact me off line Re: decals. Thanks Rdietrichson@ec.rr.com
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From: Bob McCarthy To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:37 PM Subject: [STMFC] GM&O color recommendation Good evening! Can anyone state which colors by FLOQUIL can be combined to produce the correct color for GM&O boxcars in the late 1940's? Thanks, Bob McCarthy ________________________________ From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 7:17:14 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GM&O color recommendation Jerry Scalecoat #11 is White! Tim O'Connor P.S. I just noticed on the Walthers web site that Scalecoat is sold in 1 oz bottles! I have never seen a 1 oz bottle of Scalecoat. Is this a new thing? At 12/1/2009 12:14 PM Tuesday, you wrote: >Thanks. Ed also replied off list that Scalecoat #11 is a good match. > >Jerry Glow > >--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote: >> >> Jerry, The only info I can find deals with Accu-Paint. This was in the chart in Ed Hawkins RPC #3. >>  >> Postwar Red Oxide 1 part #12 Oxide Brown + 1 part #54 Rich Oxide Brown >> 1940's Red Brown           #12 Oxide Brown >>  >> #12 long discontinued and of course Accu-Paint is out of business. Tru-Color has some Oxide Browns. I too wish that Modelflex would add the Oxide shades along with Mineral Brown & Red. >>  >> Rich >> --- On Sat, 11/28/09, jerryglow@.. . <jerryglow@. ..> wrote: >> >> >> From: jerryglow@.. . <jerryglow@. ..> >> >> ......... What's a good color recommendation for GM&O for this era into the '50s? >> >> Jerry Glow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Paul Lyons
Yes Ben, So well stated! I spend a great deal of time on construction sites, so I can certainly relate.
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Paul Lyons Laguna Niguel, CA.
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From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@worldnet.att.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 6:28 am Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: GM&O color recommendation Armand Premo wrote: "It should be obvious that Jerry was looking for a red." You've never had Sailors or junior officers working for you. What is obvious for you and me doesn't work for a surprising number of people. Ben Hom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Armand Premo wrote:
"It should be obvious that Jerry was looking for a red." You've never had Sailors or junior officers working for you. What is obvious for you and me doesn't work for a surprising number of people. Ben Hom
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
jerryglow2
It may have been a slip or typo but Scalecoat #11 is what Ed told me. I suspect he meant the CN red #11 as Armand pointed out. I don't know it's accuracy but notice Modelflex has a paint called GM&O red;
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#16-75 on http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdepot/modelf.html although that was probably for locomotives and passenger cars. from my painting days this O-scale Alco with custom graphics: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/files/gmo1.jpg Jerry Glow
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "A. Premo" <armprem2@...> wrote:
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Armand Premo
Ben,It should be obvious that Jerry was looking for a red.Armand Premo
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From: Benjamin Hom To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: GM&O color recommendation Armand Premo wrote: "I believe that Scalecoat makes a special paint labeled CN # 11 which may be close to GM&O red." Careful, Armand. When referencing the CN SIG paint designations, one must give both colour and number. http://cnlines.ca/modelling/paint.php Ben Hom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2637 - Release Date: 01/21/10 19:34:00
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Removing Athearn Lettering
Richard Hendrickson
I have an inquiry from a modeler who is not on this list about how to
remove lettering from an Athearn Santa Fe 50' refrigerator car model. As I have no experience removing lettering (but not paint) from current Athearn products, I would appreciate hearing from some list subscribers who have done so. Thanks! Richard Hendrickson
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GM&O color recommendation
Bob McCarthy
Good evening!
Can anyone state which colors by FLOQUIL can be combined to produce the correct color for GM&O boxcars in the late 1940's? Thanks, Bob McCarthy ________________________________ From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 7:17:14 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GM&O color recommendation Jerry Scalecoat #11 is White! Tim O'Connor P.S. I just noticed on the Walthers web site that Scalecoat is sold in 1 oz bottles! I have never seen a 1 oz bottle of Scalecoat. Is this a new thing? At 12/1/2009 12:14 PM Tuesday, you wrote: Thanks. Ed also replied off list that Scalecoat #11 is a good match. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: This Car Is...
John Riddell <jriddell@...>
This is one of 25 steel-frame narrow-gauge refrigerator cars built by
C.C.&F.- Montreal, (in lot 1689) in June 1945 for the Newfoundland Railways - series 325-349. It has an overall length of 37', ih of 7-4 and 6-10 wide hinged doors. Originally olive with black lettering. CN acquired the NR in 1949 and subsequently renumbered them 7250-7274. They were replaced with new reefers between 1953 and 1960. There is a 1952 color photo of the cars in service on page 121 of Morning Sun book 'CN Color Guide'. John Riddell
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Armand Premo wrote:
"I believe that Scalecoat makes a special paint labeled CN # 11 which may be close to GM&O red." Careful, Armand. When referencing the CN SIG paint designations, one must give both colour and number. http://cnlines.ca/modelling/paint.php Ben Hom
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Armand Premo
I believe that Scalecoat makes a special paint labeled CN # 11 which may be close to GM&O red.Armand Premo
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From: Tim O'Connor To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GM&O color recommendation Jerry Scalecoat #11 is White! Tim O'Connor P.S. I just noticed on the Walthers web site that Scalecoat is sold in 1 oz bottles! I have never seen a 1 oz bottle of Scalecoat. Is this a new thing? At 12/1/2009 12:14 PM Tuesday, you wrote: >Thanks. Ed also replied off list that Scalecoat #11 is a good match. > >Jerry Glow > >--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote: >> >> Jerry, The only info I can find deals with Accu-Paint. This was in the chart in Ed Hawkins RPC #3. >>  >> Postwar Red Oxide 1 part #12 Oxide Brown + 1 part #54 Rich Oxide Brown >> 1940's Red Brown           #12 Oxide Brown >>  >> #12 long discontinued and of course Accu-Paint is out of business. Tru-Color has some Oxide Browns. I too wish that Modelflex would add the Oxide shades along with Mineral Brown & Red. >>  >> Rich >> --- On Sat, 11/28/09, jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...> wrote: >> >> >> From: jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...> >> >> ......... What's a good color recommendation for GM&O for this era into the '50s? >> >> Jerry Glow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2637 - Release Date: 01/21/10 19:34:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
It's been around now for a couple of years.
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Pierre Oliver
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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New Kadee SAL boxcar?
spsalso
Kadee has announced on their site a new SAL paint scheme for their 40' box. I'm not too familiar with Seaboard, and I can't make the photo out. Can anyone point out a better photo of the scheme and/or tell me of its significance?
Thanks, Ed Edward Sutorik
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Re: GM&O color recommendation
Jerry
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Scalecoat #11 is White! Tim O'Connor P.S. I just noticed on the Walthers web site that Scalecoat is sold in 1 oz bottles! I have never seen a 1 oz bottle of Scalecoat. Is this a new thing?
At 12/1/2009 12:14 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
Thanks. Ed also replied off list that Scalecoat #11 is a good match.
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Re: This Car Is...
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
Yes they did but I don't believe they looked like the car in the photos posted. They were built by Std Steel in the early 20s and photos are readily available
Roger Hinman On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote: Didn't Maine Central have some rebuilt single sheathed milk cars? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Early freight car manufactures
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
The other more available resource would be John White's The American Railroad Freight Car which is an excellent tintroduction to this era
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Roger Hinman
On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, al.kresse wrote:
I know this is before this groups normal era (1870-1895 instead) of 1910-1956, but I believe editors and authors of books from this group have the expertice or knowledge.
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Re: Early freight car manufactures
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
A good place to start would be the Wood Car Builder's website hosted now by the MidContinent Railway Museum; that will give you a feel for the companies in business during the timeframe of your interest. The railroad periodicals of the era often carried notice of railroads making a purchase order and often published plans if a carbuilder was willing to share them. The American publshed Railroad Gazette and the British published Engineering are two recommendations. Libraries in my neck of the woods still carry some of these
Roger Hinman On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, al.kresse wrote: I know this is before this groups normal era (1870-1895 instead) of 1910-1956, but I believe editors and authors of books from this group have the expertice or knowledge. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Early freight car manufactures
bob_karig <karig@...>
If you have copies or any of the reproductions of the early Car Builder's Dictionary's, look in the back in the advertising section.
Bob Karig
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