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Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car
Dennis Williams
Hi, Clark.
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Knowledge of the prototype is the biggest help in my line of work. Clean casting also helps. With some companys could use some help with the decals. Other than these, no other problems with 300+ kits built. Dennis Dennis Williams Munhall, Pa. www.resinbuilders4u.com
--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> wrote:
From: Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:35 AM With resin kits priced at $40-50 today as a consumer I buy what I think I need, not necessarily knowing anything about the prototype car. I'm depending on the maker to provide me with not only good photos and text for construction, but knowledge of the prototype. Clark Propst Mason City Iowa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
Friends, Le Grande Schlamazz (i.e. Prototype Rails) in Cocoa Beach is almost upon us, a time to also alert those working on their UP S-40-10 Stock Car Shake/Take kit projects to bring their work for collaborative display. It makes no difference whether they may be "in progress", or are in fact completed. Everyone appreciates, and everyone learns.
Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento
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Re: Atlas HO Hart Ballast Cars
peteraue
Before you paint them, you may want to consider a fix to their biggest shortfall: They sit too high on the rails. Richard Hendrickson published an excellent article how to fix them in the SFRH&MS Warbonnet Q1-2004. If you need a copy please contact me.
Peter Aue
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Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car
Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
With resin kits priced at $40-50 today as a consumer I buy what I think I need, not necessarily knowing anything about the prototype car. I'm depending on the maker to provide me with not only good photos and text for construction, but knowledge of the prototype.
Clark Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car
rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
According to Red Green, it's manly to throw the instructions away. However, you should keep the set in a foreign language is case you need to look at the photos.
Clark "Needing Bill to edit my emails" Propst
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Re: Centralia Car Shops
Dennis Storzek
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "kjstrenski" <kjstrenski@...> wrote:
Silly me. When you said, "did that un-named manufacturer have any plans for the Soo caboose?" I thought you were looking for drawings, not future production. Dennis
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Re: NYC freight car lettering
The guy who made the masters for these cars told me that theKit 93.1 says "Panel Rf, Roman Decals". Are you saying that this is a bogus model? It appears to match the photos for the Roman lettered car in the PDS. Note that it is a rect panel roof, not diagonal so it appears to model cars rebuilt prior to WWII. Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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Re: Santa Fe AB brake info
Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
Thanks again, Steve. - Andy
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Re: NYC freight car lettering
tmolsen@...
Bill,
Your post regarding the NYC Raised Side Boxcar kits that Martin brought out recently at Naperville stated: The guy who made the masters for these cars told me that theIf this is so, how does this square with what the information Martin shows on the product sheet regarding the rebuilding dates, or does this only apply to the diagonal panel roof cars? Martin has confined the kits to the numbering series 194000-195498 series only. Has he mixed up the series between the Michigan Central period and that of the NYC period? If not, then what would the difference be between the kits put forth and that of the "unreleased earlier rebuilds"? The January 1952 ORER (effective date 10-51) gives a description of the the 194000-195498 series that appears to match the descriptions in the product sheets with the exception of the type of doors and roof. Regards, Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@udel.edu
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Re: NYC Gothic Lettering
tmolsen@...
List,
I asked Terry Link the question regarding the inception date of the Gothic Lettering style on NYC freight equipment as it pertained to reporting marks and dimensional data. He was kind enough to send me the following information: "The date on the drawing for the Gothic NYC reporting marks is May 17, 1955 and then another one dated October 11, 1955. I would probably have to go through and read all the drawings notes to see if they pinpoint things better. As noted on my web site - drawing dates don't always match the date they went into use. I've seen cases of cars being painted - and the official drawing not being created for a month or two later. There was also some rolling stock lettered in the Gothic style prior to this date - the Pacemaker boxcars and bay window cabooses were both using the the Gothic style when they entered service and of course - it's possible for a shop to have used the stencil for one of these on a regular car. For whatever reason - the Gothic style herald diagram wasn't revised until August - but then I guess they had hundreds if not thousands of drawings to redo - obviously they could not be done overnight. I'm going to say late May/June 1955 would probably be when the Gothic style started to be applied across the roster instead of the Roman style." This answered my question in regard to what style was in use in my late 1953 time frame so that I can now make an informed decision as to what Sunshine kit I need to buy. I hope that Terry's information will be of use to all of you who are in the same time period as I am. Also, many thanks to Richard Hendrickson, Tim O'Connor and Tony Thompson who also responded to my questions regarding the NYC Gothic lettering style. Best regards, Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@udel.edu
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Bieber 1947 ....
Allen Rueter
The page is in the photo section under an album called Logs and wheel reports etc
Allen Rueter
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Bieber 1947 q4 p5a
Allen Rueter
Pending the list sherif's approval, I've uploaded a photo
of page 05 of Bieber 1947 q4 inter change. Here's my take 005 Rg GN MP KCS RG cnw Rg At Milw nyc Q At PFE UCR NP Rdg Q WP Gtw At SP NP RG (almost looks like RY) Erie 105's PFE At Gn Ri Ri NW NP DRG CP NWX UP SP Ri Gatx Urtx Gatx Mil Gn Gn CBq Sou 205's Rd Atsf Milw MEC PLE PFE UP GN RG ?TLX At BO At PFE PFE B+A Mil Utlx At Gn Sou WP PFE 305's Gn Atsf UP IC FGE Pa UP SP NYC WP cnw FGE Q PFE UP Q Mil CIL 405's FGE SPS SP Gtw LN Art CP SP Erie SCCX CIM PFE CGW SP BRE FGE Erie At Pa SP WP At Brex TNO SP 505's SP FGE Cil Gn Gn UP At ART DRG IC UTLX CO B+O SP UP GN NP Pa SP WP Sou NYC Allen Rueter
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Re: Wright Trak SAL gondola kit
seaboard_1966
Guys
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Once again there is a problem with a WrightTRAK product. It appears that a few, perhaps as few as 3 or 4, were sold that were not complete. This apparently happened at Trainfest. If you purchased a gon and it did not have a floor please let us know. It would explain the couple we have laying around. Also, with regard to the instructions. They were literally done at the very last second and include NO photos. Huge mistake. I have redone them and they now include photos of the cars in SAL and NS paint with several lettering variations included. If you have not gotten those please email me at dblake7@columbus.rr.com and I will get them right out to you. Several of you already have them waiting in your in box as I sent them when I saw the emails about the poor instructions. Denis Blake WrightTRAK Railroad Models.
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From: <jfbrewer@comcast.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wright Trak SAL gondola kit Clark, I purchased this kit, as well as their NS low side gondola kit at Naperville; my kits appear to contain all the parts, even those that you are missing. However, both contain the same sheet of basic instructions and no prototype information or finished model photographs. I am still waiting on the decals for the NS kit as I understand Wright Trak was waiting to have then printed pending approval of their art work. These kits aren't listed on their web site so there is no help available there. I'm hoping once Wright Trak catches up wiith business after Naperville and Trainfest, the necessary information will be made available to us. I made a cursory search on-line for photos of the prototypes, but couldn't find anything.. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark Propst" <cepropst@netconx.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:39:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [STMFC] Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I'm about finished with a Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I bought from them at Trainfest. (Hope their models sold well) If memory serves me correctly the kit contained the body, Tichy brake sprue, weight (which was too long), trucks, and a piece of brass wire, decals, plus two sheets of instructions. The instructions included one typed page and one page with four photocopied photos of the constructed model. The instructions mentioned an inside floor and etched parts sprue, which were not in my kit. The builder didn't recommend using the etched parts anyway? I was able to dig up the styrene for the floor, grab irons, sill steps, cut levers, and a brake platform. Construction time was what you'd expect from a one piece bodied gon. Drilling holes for the grabs and steps and adding the Tichy brake parts. One item missing from the kit that makes it impossible to finish is a good photo of a completed model or prototype. I had no idea what color to paint it or where to place the decals! I was able to obtain the information from a friend. I paid $40 for the kit. Clark Propst Mason City Iowa ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.80/2523 - Release Date: 11/24/09 07:46:00
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Re: Wright Trak SAL gondola kit
seaboard_1966
Jim
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The instruction sheet was literally thrown together at the last moment. It has been revised to include photos and the like. Here they are. Denis Blake WrightTRAK Railroad Model
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From: <jfbrewer@comcast.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wright Trak SAL gondola kit Clark, I purchased this kit, as well as their NS low side gondola kit at Naperville; my kits appear to contain all the parts, even those that you are missing. However, both contain the same sheet of basic instructions and no prototype information or finished model photographs. I am still waiting on the decals for the NS kit as I understand Wright Trak was waiting to have then printed pending approval of their art work. These kits aren't listed on their web site so there is no help available there. I'm hoping once Wright Trak catches up wiith business after Naperville and Trainfest, the necessary information will be made available to us. I made a cursory search on-line for photos of the prototypes, but couldn't find anything.. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark Propst" <cepropst@netconx.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:39:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [STMFC] Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I'm about finished with a Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I bought from them at Trainfest. (Hope their models sold well) If memory serves me correctly the kit contained the body, Tichy brake sprue, weight (which was too long), trucks, and a piece of brass wire, decals, plus two sheets of instructions. The instructions included one typed page and one page with four photocopied photos of the constructed model. The instructions mentioned an inside floor and etched parts sprue, which were not in my kit. The builder didn't recommend using the etched parts anyway? I was able to dig up the styrene for the floor, grab irons, sill steps, cut levers, and a brake platform. Construction time was what you'd expect from a one piece bodied gon. Drilling holes for the grabs and steps and adding the Tichy brake parts. One item missing from the kit that makes it impossible to finish is a good photo of a completed model or prototype. I had no idea what color to paint it or where to place the decals! I was able to obtain the information from a friend. I paid $40 for the kit. Clark Propst Mason City Iowa ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.80/2523 - Release Date: 11/24/09 07:46:00
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Plenty o' BxCrs - Thanks to everyone
John Hitzeman
Thanks to everyone who responded to my request
for the Red Caboose Boxcars!! I think there are enough out there to make a fair sized train. <G> In fact, I think there would be enough to do the complete prototype roster of ten Frisco Fast Freight cars with Duryea Underframes!! Thanks again, John John Hitzeman President/Owner American Model Builders, Inc. LASERKit (tm) Our 27th Year! St. Louis, MO www.rgspemkt.com www.ambstlouis.net www.laserkit.com amermodel@sbglobal.net laserkit@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Santa Fe AB brake info
Mark
Thank You, Steve. My brother, Bill, will appreciate this.
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Sincerely, Mark Morgan
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From: Steve Sandifer <steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [STMFC] Santa Fe AB brake info To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ATSF Group" <ATSF@yahoogroups.com>, "Santa Fe List" <SANTAFE@crcvms.unl.edu> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 9:59 PM I have posted two files from John Moore on the Santa Fe Historical and Modeling Society website. 1. Freight Cars not used in Interchange Remaining to be Equipped with "AB" Brakes as of 12-1-52. http://atsfrr. net/Reviews/ HO/Freight/ IMRCaboose/ NonInterchgFrtRe main52.pdf 2. Interchange Freight Cars Remaining to be Equipped with "AB" Brakes as of 12-1-52. http://atsfrr. net/Reviews/ HO/Freight/ IMRCaboose/ InterchgFrtRemai n52.pdf ____________ __ J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer mailto:steve.sandifer@ sbcglobal. net Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918 Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Intermountain bulkhead cars
Bob, have any further description for the B&O storage cabinet? I can't
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quite tell from the photos -- did the cabinet have doors when it was new? You might want to look at those photos again... a couple of modern cars in there. :-) Thanks Tim O'Connor
My understanding the information for the bulkhead version was supplied
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Re: Type X tank car question
Dennis Storzek
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
Actually, I uploaded this drawing when we were discussing the Blackstone Models NG cars a couple weeks ago. Try Here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/UTL%20Tankcar%20Drawings/ Dennis
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Atlas HO Hart Ballast Cars
deniskahl <denis.kahl@...>
I have obtained some undec Atlas HO Hart Ballast cars.
I would like to paint these to match some other cars lettered for the Union Pacific. Does anyone know a brand and paint colour that might match? Note that Scalecoat is unobtainable here in Australia. Cheers Denis
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Re: Pennsy box car # PRR81945
Thanks, you've got me looking at X41's for the first time... and I
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see they have very interesting roofs! And now I see Sunshine has a kit for each of these cars. Cool! Tim O'Connor
The end door is the difference between and X41 (no end door) and an X41a (end door). As you stated the X41b were single door whereas the X41 and X41a were double door. The X41c was another double door car without end doors. The only difference I can find between the X41 and the X41c is the class of trucks. The X41 rode on 2DF26 A-3 ride control trucks while the X41c had 2DF26a A-3 ride control trucks. As with other PRR classes the manufacturer may have been different thus the subclass difference.
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