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Re: Grab Iron Change

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Dave Yingst wrote:
Could someone give me an idea of when the railroads started adding the second grab iron to the left side of freight cars?
How exact a date do you want? It was in the 1930s.

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Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

At 11:06 AM 1/19/2010, Eric wrote:
From the look of the current page, I'd say the renewal for the domain and web space has expired.
The same thing happened in 2008...


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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: Scalecoat Boxcar Red's

Eric Hansmann
 

--- "Tim" with no last name wrote:

I would like to know if anyone has an equivalent list in Scalecoat?

Red #1 - B&O, WM - Accupaint #59 Iron Oxide or Floquile #601 Zinc Chromate
Primer - bright red oxide

Red #1.5 – PRR – 50/50 mix of #1 and #2

Red #2 - CN, CNW, UP - Accupaint #54 Rich Oxide Brown or 50/50 mix of
Floquil 175 SOU Freight Car Brown and 186 Oxide Red

Red #3 - MKT - Accupaint #12 Oxide Brown

Red #4 - Erie (some), C&O, NKP (some) , NYC (some) - 50/50 mix of Floquil
74 Boxcar Red and 186 Oxide Red

Red #5 - ATSF, Erie (some) NYC (early), NKP (some) - Floquil 179 Mineral
Brown.
======================================================


Tim,

Paint colors changed over time. B&O boxcars were painted a brownish color in the 1920s and a red oxide in the 1950s. PRR, WM and other railroad paint specs also changed over the decades between WWI and 1960.

What specific era do you need details for?

Eric


Eric Hansmann
Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Starting over in a new home:
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

jerryglow2
 

Purge your cache and see if it works. It's not coming up for me.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:

Brian,
I just tried it and it's there!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Brian Carlson
 

I'm not sure Ted had much to do with it over the past 4-5 years. Rob Adams was updating it, but it's likely the domain wasn't paid up since the page that comes up now is a generic web page.
Brian carlson

--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Jon Miller <atsf@izap.com> wrote:


From: Jon Miller <atsf@izap.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Steam Era Freight Cars web site
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 1:20 PM


 



Ops, wrong. I just glanced at the name but now notice it's some type of
freight company. Not sure what is going on. Someone needs to call Ted.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

jerryglow2
 

OhOh bad news - usually the sign of someone not paying for the domain name. I was just on Speedwitch (that still works) this morning to order a couple sets of decals as Ted didn't make it to Cocoa Beach. I got a confirmation on the order (PayPal payment) but that might have just been automatic system reaponse.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:

Ops, wrong. I just glanced at the name but now notice it's some type of
freight company. Not sure what is going on. Someone needs to call Ted.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Eric Hansmann
 

From the look of the current page, I'd say the renewal for the domain and web space has expired.

Eric


Eric Hansmann
Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Starting over in a new home:
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianleppert@..." <brianleppert@...> wrote:

What has happened to Ted Culotta's old web site for steam era freight cars (steamfreightcars.com)?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Looks like someone failed to continue paying for either the domain or the webhosting. I think Rob Adams took over the site and I bet he'll address this soon.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianleppert@..." <brianleppert@...> wrote:

What has happened to Ted Culotta's old web site for steam era freight cars (steamfreightcars.com)?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Grab Iron Change

yingstco <flyingy@...>
 

Could someone give me an idea of when the railroads started adding the second grab iron to the left side of freight cars?

Thanks

Dave Yingst
Corning, CA


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Armand Premo
 

What has happened to Ted ?Armand Premo

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Steam Era Freight Cars web site



What has happened to Ted Culotta's old web site for steam era freight cars (steamfreightcars.com)?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV






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Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Ops, wrong. I just glanced at the name but now notice it's some type of freight company. Not sure what is going on. Someone needs to call Ted.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars web site

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Brian,
I just tried it and it's there!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Scalecoat Boxcar Red's

railwayman <stevelucas3@...>
 

I'll add some notes about standard CN Red #11.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "fltenwheeler" <floridatenwheeler@...> wrote:

Hi

I would like to know if anyone has an equivalent list in Scalecoat?


Red #2 - CN, CNW, UP - Accupaint #54 Rich Oxide Brown or 50/50 mix of
Floquil 175 SOU Freight Car Brown and 186 Oxide Red
For CN cars, Scalecoat or Modelflex Light Tuscan Oxide Red paint provides a slightly lighter version of standard CN Red #11. Or you can use the CN Sig's Red #11 from either Scalecoat or Modelflex.

Tim


Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

There are so many variables to contend with according to your post that it is impossible to render any single bit of advice as to how to proceed.

Probably the most productive place to start is determining the length of the axles. The most important thing to keep in mind is that model trucks are most distinctly NOT precision assemblies (we could not even begin to afford them if they were!), and that within wide parameters, they are for the most part designed only to roll above a certain minimum standard. For those widely interested in increasing truck rollability, this standard is commonly found to be relatively low, while for the general market, the standard is widely accepted as OK.

Most mass produced trucks are sized to routinely handle axle sets nominally of 1.015" length. Because of the natural variability that occurs in the plastic injection process, however, two trucks from the same batch with the same wheel sets may vary considerably when it comes to rolling ability. If a given axle/truck fit is not optimal, no amount of other changes will improve things.

Maximum rolling ability often clashes with another issue: minimum axle end play- an issue ever more important with the increasing use and acceptance of scale-sized couplers. Although not too often- but often enough- maximum rolling ability is accompanied by the truck sliding/ rocking from side to side like a drunken sailor because of excessive axle end play. No wonder these cars will not couple easily!

1) The Branchline metal wheel sets had axles that routinely measured 1.018" in length, versus the long-time popular Intermountain sets that most commonly measured 1.012" (nominal 1.015"). This excessive length can and has caused problems, sometimes with Branchline's own products.

2) The shape and contour of the axle ends make a difference, as does the material with which they are made. The thin needle-like axle ends of the Reboxx , Intermountain, and Branchline wheel sets offer the best rolling potential. The wide axle ends of the otherwise beautiful NWSL wheels turn out to be a significant relative disadvantage when measuring comparable rollability. The plastic ends of the high quality Kadee wheels ditto (all of Kadee's own trucks gain added rollability when fitted with measured Reboxx wheel sets). For reasons that I cannot explain, the Reboxx wheels of the same nominal length consistently out-roll the Branchlines.

3) Over the past year or two, IM has changed the China sourcing for their wheels, a change that I and others have discovered has resulted in a reduction in routine axle length from 1.012" to 1.007", albeit with some perceived smoothing of the axle tips. This is a significant change- not for the good- that has caused at least one premium aftermarket truck manufacturer to change metal wheel suppliers (although IM and Reboxx are owned by the same entity, Reboxx wheels are still sourced from their original factory, and in my experience still maintain their very high quality).

As has been pointed out by many on this list over the years, the limited "science" that can be applied to this rollability issue has itself to be applied with a large dollop of art because of the composite nature of so many variables.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Steam Era Freight Cars web site

brianleppert@att.net
 

What has happened to Ted Culotta's old web site for steam era freight cars (steamfreightcars.com)?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

railwayman <stevelucas3@...>
 

I highly recommend P-B-L Neolube for use on axle ends, journal boxes, truck centre plates, Kadee couplers, and switch points (provided that the points are of the same polarity as the stock rails). All move a lot more freely when Neolube is used on them.

http://www.p-b-l.com/pbl2000/Neolube.html

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Buy some Neolube from P-B-L also. You can "paint" this graphite
into the journals of your trucks. It -WILL- make a difference
and it looks like spilled oil when it's dry.

Tim O'Connor


Re: ORER Help Needed - Dec 1950 - AW 103

al_brown03
 

To bound things at the other end, the 1/53 ORER doesn't show any revenue freight cars for the Ahnapee & Western.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "andy.laurent" <andy.laurent@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@> wrote:

On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:50 AM, andy.laurent wrote:

Gents,

I am searching for information on a flatcar owned by the Ahnapee &
Western Railway...AW 103. It was put in service in 1949 or '50, and
is referenced in an ICC report as being "in use in interchange
service at the end of 1950."

The car was converted from an ex-MDT refrigerator car (and ex-AW
3000 series), and was equipped with cradles for carrying boats
built in Sturgeon Bay, Wisc.

If someone has a late 1950 or early 1951 ORER and can check the A&W
listing, I would greatly appreciate it.

Andy, the 10/50 ORER shows only three refrigerator cars (with ice
bunkers sealed and unusable) in revenue service, A&W 3000, 3003, and
3004. Under Miscellaneous Equipment not in interchange service 1
flat car is listed, but there is no information about it.

Richard Hendrickson

Richard, thank you for checking your 10/50 ORER. Perhaps an early 1951 issue will have the car, because the ICC report specifically mentions the car being in interchange service and the A&W receiving car hire for it offline.

Andy L.


Re: ORER Help Needed - Dec 1950 - AW 103

Andy Laurent
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:50 AM, andy.laurent wrote:

Gents,

I am searching for information on a flatcar owned by the Ahnapee &
Western Railway...AW 103. It was put in service in 1949 or '50, and
is referenced in an ICC report as being "in use in interchange
service at the end of 1950."

The car was converted from an ex-MDT refrigerator car (and ex-AW
3000 series), and was equipped with cradles for carrying boats
built in Sturgeon Bay, Wisc.

If someone has a late 1950 or early 1951 ORER and can check the A&W
listing, I would greatly appreciate it.

Andy, the 10/50 ORER shows only three refrigerator cars (with ice
bunkers sealed and unusable) in revenue service, A&W 3000, 3003, and
3004. Under Miscellaneous Equipment not in interchange service 1
flat car is listed, but there is no information about it.

Richard Hendrickson

Richard, thank you for checking your 10/50 ORER. Perhaps an early 1951 issue will have the car, because the ICC report specifically mentions the car being in interchange service and the A&W receiving car hire for it offline.

Andy L.


Re: Grab Iron Change

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 1/19/2010 11:09:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
flyingy@sunset.net writes:


Could someone give me an idea of when the railroads started adding the
second grab iron to the left side of freight cars?
Required on all house cars, hopper cars and high side gondola cars built
new or rebuilt on, or after August 1, 1933. I was also recommended when cars
received Class I repairs they were to be so equipped.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Scalecoat Boxcar Red's

Tim Meyer
 

Hi

I would like to know if anyone has an equivalent list in Scalecoat?

Red #1 - B&O, WM - Accupaint #59 Iron Oxide or Floquile #601 Zinc Chromate
Primer - bright red oxide

Red #1.5 – PRR – 50/50 mix of #1 and #2

Red #2 - CN, CNW, UP - Accupaint #54 Rich Oxide Brown or 50/50 mix of
Floquil 175 SOU Freight Car Brown and 186 Oxide Red

Red #3 - MKT - Accupaint #12 Oxide Brown

Red #4 - Erie (some), C&O, NKP (some) , NYC (some) - 50/50 mix of Floquil
74 Boxcar Red and 186 Oxide Red

Red #5 - ATSF, Erie (some) NYC (early), NKP (some) - Floquil 179 Mineral
Brown.


Thanks

Tim

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