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Re: GM&O color recommendation

Tim O'Connor
 

Jerry

Scalecoat #11 is White!

Tim O'Connor

P.S. I just noticed on the Walthers web site that Scalecoat is sold
in 1 oz bottles! I have never seen a 1 oz bottle of Scalecoat. Is this
a new thing?

At 12/1/2009 12:14 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
Thanks. Ed also replied off list that Scalecoat #11 is a good match.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:

Jerry, The only info I can find deals with Accu-Paint. This was in the chart in Ed Hawkins RPC #3.
�
Postwar Red Oxide 1 part #12 Oxide Brown + 1 part #54 Rich Oxide Brown
1940's Red Brown� � � � � � � � � � � #12 Oxide Brown
�
#12 long discontinued and of course Accu-Paint is out of business. Tru-Color has some Oxide Browns. I too wish that Modelflex would add the Oxide shades along with Mineral Brown & Red.
�
Rich
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...> wrote:


From: jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...>

......... What's a good color recommendation for GM&O for this era into the '50s?

Jerry Glow


Re: This Car Is...

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

Yes they did but I don't believe they looked like the car in the photos posted. They were built by Std Steel in the early 20s and photos are readily available

Roger Hinman
On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Didn't Maine Central have some rebuilt single sheathed milk cars?
FWIW my guess is that whoever owned it, it was in milk/creamery
service...

Tim O'Connor

At 1/22/2010 07:32 PM Friday, you wrote:
Quidi Vidi Brewing is in St. John's Newfoundland, which might stir someone's "mental list" of probable owners.

Scott Pitzer


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Re: Early freight car manufactures

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

The other more available resource would be John White's The American Railroad Freight Car which is an excellent tintroduction to this era


Roger Hinman

On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, al.kresse wrote:

I know this is before this groups normal era (1870-1895 instead) of 1910-1956, but I believe editors and authors of books from this group have the expertice or knowledge.

Mr. K's ACF book states that Ensign Manufacturing Co(Huntington, WV) did NOT make freight cars (just cast steel/iron components)until the early 1880s. Annual reports show that the C&O had 150 wooden 4-wheel 6-ton hopper cars in the early 1870s. Who was making coal cars in the 1870s?

What technical journals might have these builders listed or advertised in them?

Al Kresse


Re: Early freight car manufactures

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

A good place to start would be the Wood Car Builder's website hosted now by the MidContinent Railway Museum; that will give you a feel for the companies in business during the timeframe of your interest. The railroad periodicals of the era often carried notice of railroads making a purchase order and often published plans if a carbuilder was willing to share them. The American publshed Railroad Gazette and the British published Engineering are two recommendations. Libraries in my neck of the woods still carry some of these


Roger Hinman
On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, al.kresse wrote:

I know this is before this groups normal era (1870-1895 instead) of 1910-1956, but I believe editors and authors of books from this group have the expertice or knowledge.

Mr. K's ACF book states that Ensign Manufacturing Co(Huntington, WV) did NOT make freight cars (just cast steel/iron components)until the early 1880s. Annual reports show that the C&O had 150 wooden 4-wheel 6-ton hopper cars in the early 1870s. Who was making coal cars in the 1870s?

What technical journals might have these builders listed or advertised in them?

Al Kresse



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Re: Early freight car manufactures

bob_karig <karig@...>
 

If you have copies or any of the reproductions of the early Car Builder's Dictionary's, look in the back in the advertising section.

Bob Karig


Early freight car manufactures

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

I know this is before this groups normal era (1870-1895 instead) of 1910-1956, but I believe editors and authors of books from this group have the expertice or knowledge.

Mr. K's ACF book states that Ensign Manufacturing Co(Huntington, WV) did NOT make freight cars (just cast steel/iron components)until the early 1880s. Annual reports show that the C&O had 150 wooden 4-wheel 6-ton hopper cars in the early 1870s. Who was making coal cars in the 1870s?

What technical journals might have these builders listed or advertised in them?

Al Kresse


decals

jerryglow2
 

Along with the GM&O supplemental decals - see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/88225
I have sets for:

ACL flatcar (Tichy with one less stake pocket) $4.00
ACL lowside gondola (Ertl or F&C) $4.50
3 C&NW cars - see link on my sig line $4.50
EJ&E USRA rebuilt car (green car with orange lettering and "Around
Chicago" logo) $5.00
CGW gondola (MDC Railgon type kit w/ Pullman ends) $4.50
CGW early PS1 $4.50
Sunray (Atlas) LPG tankcar - Richard Hendrichson says the upper
lettering should be red not the black. $5.00

Contact me offline as I'm getting a print order together now.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/
newest entries:
.3 CNW cars
.GMO boxcar


Re: This Car Is...

railwayman <stevelucas3@...>
 

I should add the Newfoundland Railway had several reefers built of this design. A colour photo of of a golden-yellow-painted CNF 330 at Port-aux-Basques, NF is in Omer Lavalee's "Narrow Gauge Railways of Canada".

Note also the liquidometer to the left of the doors in the first photo.

Steve Lucas.


Re: This Car Is...

railwayman <stevelucas3@...>
 

The tome titled "Canadian National Railways Passenger Equipment 1967-1992" describes a group of express reefers built in February, 1951 by the Eastern Car Company of Trenton, Nova Scotia, that this car may be from. This series was CNF 260-269 for service on CN's 3'6" gauge lines in Newfoundland.

I'm thinking that this car is from that series, as photos of cars of similar design built for the Newfoundland Railway before its takeover by CN in 1949 show a plain roof with battens. The diagonal-panel roof and steel running-board on the car in the photo is more in keeping with cars built in the early 1950's.

Steve Lucas.


Re: This Car Is...

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Looks like it might be a rework of one of the CN's 8000-series outside frame boxcars used in Newfoundland. Found a couple of low-resolution photos on the web (links below), maybe someone has better shots with this possible I.D. The side and end framing matches, as does the configuration of the right hand end grabs. The web site doesn't say if these were 3'-6" gauge Newfie RR cars, or SG CN cars on NG trucks. I'm guessing the former since the cars in the photos were in MOW service.

http://members.fortunecity.com/rrpics/nffrmow/bo8066a.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/rrpics/nffrmow/bo8066b.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/rrpics/nffrmow/box8472.jpg

Tom Madden


Bx-11 and Them!

bowie1793
 

Given the recent discussions in this forum and the recent MR article on the Bx-11/12 kit by Westerfield (not to mention the fact that I am in the process of assembling my own!), I nearly forgot that an ATSF Bx-11 had a supporting role in the 1954 movie, "Them!" Of which I also have the DVD. The car shown is 125485, built 6-29, filmed in the ATSF yard in downtown Los Angeles, shows a short raised roof, periods in the reporting marks and a reweigh date of 12 52 but the location is not shown. For the movie the car sports a wooden door that is demolished by "Them" for the car's contents. The repack data over the Dalman truck is stenciled ATSF LA 7 1 53. To be able to pick out the little things about the car is a modelers delight. Now if only the car behind it received the same attention. An Fe x class Whalebelly rebuild auto parts car "El Capitan"! Now back to work.
 
Joseph Jacques  




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Re: This Car Is...

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Bob,
 
       This has the look of one of the Reading RR's conversions. Why it is in Canada is another question.
 
Fred Freitas

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Bob C <thecitrusbelt@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Bob C <thecitrusbelt@yahoo.com>
Subject: [STMFC] This Car Is...
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 6:06 PM


 



Can anyone identify the car on the photo links below?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ colinchurcher/ 3980236608/ sizes/l/

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ colinchurcher/ 3980238176/ sizes/l/

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ colinchurcher/ 3980243334/ sizes/l/

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ colinchurcher/ 3979482583/ sizes/l/


Re: This Car Is...

Tim O'Connor
 

Didn't Maine Central have some rebuilt single sheathed milk cars?
FWIW my guess is that whoever owned it, it was in milk/creamery
service...

Tim O'Connor

At 1/22/2010 07:32 PM Friday, you wrote:
Quidi Vidi Brewing is in St. John's Newfoundland, which might stir someone's "mental list" of probable owners.

Scott Pitzer


Re: This Car Is...

Scott Pitzer
 

Quidi Vidi Brewing is in St. John's Newfoundland, which might stir someone's "mental list" of probable owners.

Scott Pitzer


Re: This Car Is...

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Bob C wrote:

Can anyone identify the car on the photo links below?
Originally built in the late teens or early 1920s as a single
sheathed box car. Rebuilt 1948 or later with a slightly elevated
diagonal-panel Murphy roof. Either at that time or later, it was
converted into an ice bunker refrigerator car by adding ice hatches
with Preco pressed steel hatch covers and wood refrigerator car
doors. Many railroads had box cars of this type and the construction
details don't immediately identify the original owner. If you can
get access to the interior, there may be reporting marks and numbers
visible there.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: This Car Is...

Bill Schneider
 

A reefer.

Bill Schneider (ducking for cover...)


From: Bob C
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 6:06 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] This Car Is...



Can anyone identify the car on the photo links below?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinchurcher/3980236608/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinchurcher/3980238176/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinchurcher/3980243334/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinchurcher/3979482583/sizes/l/


This Car Is...

Bob C <thecitrusbelt@...>
 


Re: Railshop H30 hopper kit

Tim O'Connor
 

Chris

That may be, but it's far wider than the prototype. I know it's
not easy (and may not be feasible with a #78) but the whole draft
gear casting is really quite a prominent feature of the prototype
cars. Oh well...

Tim O'Connor

At 1/22/2010 03:47 PM Friday, you wrote:
Tim, the box is set up for a #78 Kadee. That is a narrow box with a Kadee #78 coupler stuck in it. If you want it more narrow, I suppose you can file the sides down some more.

Chris

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Chris

Those ends cages are beautiful... Do you have any opinion on how
difficult it would be to replace the draft gear with Accurail or
Kadee or Details West "scale size" boxes? A kit that good deserves
to have better looking draft gear!

Tim O'Connor


Re: Railshop H30 hopper kit

modeltrainguy@...
 

Tim, the box is set up for a #78 Kadee. That is a narrow box with a Kadee #78 coupler stuck in it. If you want it more narrow, I suppose you can file the sides down some more.

Chris

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Chris

Those ends cages are beautiful... Do you have any opinion on how
difficult it would be to replace the draft gear with Accurail or
Kadee or Details West "scale size" boxes? A kit that good deserves
to have better looking draft gear!

Tim O'Connor


Re: Railshop H30 hopper kit

Tim O'Connor
 

Chris

Those ends cages are beautiful... Do you have any opinion on how
difficult it would be to replace the draft gear with Accurail or
Kadee or Details West "scale size" boxes? A kit that good deserves
to have better looking draft gear!

Tim O'Connor

At 1/22/2010 11:44 AM Friday, you wrote:
I posted some pictures of the upcoming H30 hopper car from Railshop. I sold some of these kits at Cocoa Beach and these pictures may be of some help in assembly.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/16332638/pic/list

There are just a few more things to finish up and they will be available shortly. I know it's been a long wait but the kit looks to be pretty decent. Thanks everyone who had purchased the almost complete kits at Cocoa Beach.

Chris

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