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WTB- Sunshine Gondola Kits

Riley K <riley050748@...>
 

C of Ga #67.18

SAL #92.1

riley050748@gmail.com


Re: HO Decals for Southeastern Fallen Flags

Riley K <riley050748@...>
 

I have seen some of the CN&L decals. Bob will send a sample image.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Are there any images of his decals? I would never order decals any more
without knowing what they really look like.

Tim O'Connor


At 1/20/2010 01:01 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Bob McCarthy at the Supply Depot is in the process of producing decals for notable fallen roads, like the ACL, C&WC, GA Road, CN&L, C of Ga and others. If interested please go to www.thesupplycar.net to see the list or to contact him.


Re: HO Decals for Southeastern Fallen Flags

Tim O'Connor
 

Are there any images of his decals? I would never order decals any more
without knowing what they really look like.

Tim O'Connor

At 1/20/2010 01:01 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Bob McCarthy at the Supply Depot is in the process of producing decals for notable fallen roads, like the ACL, C&WC, GA Road, CN&L, C of Ga and others. If interested please go to www.thesupplycar.net to see the list or to contact him.


Re: Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck

Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
 

Norm Larkin asked:
"I keep getting a Yahoo Group Error from the link. Anyone else have a
problem?"

Works fine for me. I've added a TinyURL - check if that works better for
you.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/20463649/pic/620723233/view
?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
http://tinyurl.com/yjo928v


Ben Hom


Re: Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck

Norman+Laraine Larkin <lono@...>
 

I keep getting a Yahoo Group Error from the link. Anyone else have a problem?
Norm Larkin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Carey" <nedspam@comcast.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck


Thank you Elden, Bruce, Brian and Vince for your replies.

I will go looking for aircraft interior black, rubber, Gunze Sanyo flat tire black, and Nato Tri Color Black. Checking Testors site, Rubber, it is not available in acrylic only enamel - probably why I couldn't find it.

I also agree that Oily Black does really well for oil spills, but you guys
need to tell me why; is it bluish?

I really like oily black. It is great for truck journals. Here is a link to Ned's models in the photos section.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/20463649/pic/620723233/view?picmode=&;mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
I find many oils to have an irridescent look to them as they refect light. Perhaps they are trying to achive this when formulating the color.

Ned Carey







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Oooops.

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Well...one reason why I don't criticize people for making mistakes on the "TO" function is that I...obviously make mistakes with the "TO" function. The trouble is, once you hit the send...you can't stop it unless it's quite large and then you might catch it in Outbox [ Outlook Express ]. Anyhow...disregard the message to Ted Culotta.

This could be one of those days...

Mike Brock


Steam Freight Cars site

Ted Culotta
 

The site is up and running again. I wasn't paying attention to renewal of the URL.

Cheers,
Ted Culotta


True-color paints

Tim Meyer
 

Has anyone tried True-color paints?

Tim

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "fltenwheeler" <floridatenwheeler@...> wrote:

Hi

I would like to know if anyone has an equivalent list in Scalecoat?

Red #1 - B&O, WM - Accupaint #59 Iron Oxide or Floquile #601 Zinc Chromate
Primer - bright red oxide

Red #1.5 – PRR – 50/50 mix of #1 and #2

Red #2 - CN, CNW, UP - Accupaint #54 Rich Oxide Brown or 50/50 mix of
Floquil 175 SOU Freight Car Brown and 186 Oxide Red

Red #3 - MKT - Accupaint #12 Oxide Brown

Red #4 - Erie (some), C&O, NKP (some) , NYC (some) - 50/50 mix of Floquil
74 Boxcar Red and 186 Oxide Red

Red #5 - ATSF, Erie (some) NYC (early), NKP (some) - Floquil 179 Mineral
Brown.


Thanks

Tim


Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Now, if the conductivity of Neolube is measurable when bridging insualtion on a wheelset, then
maybe we can make
some Code 88 wheelsets that will work signalling systems for the cost of the wheelsets and some
Neolube? And look
nice and oily too? :)


Steve Lucas.

Tried that. Works well.

SGL





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Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Schuyler Larrabee
 

But you can pay less than P-B-L
wants for it. Look around.<
Some time ago I did some extensive searching for this stuff. Thirty
years ago I had a spray can of it but the only use appear to be the AEC.
You can find a site (at least then I did) but a 55 gal drum was a little
excessive for me. I would like to know of any other place I can get it. On
the net would be best.

Jon Miller

I truly don't recall where I got it, an electronics store, maybe? Long time since.

SGL





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Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Neolube is great stuff. I've painted locomotive wheels with it. But you can
pay less than P-B-L
wants for it. Look around.

SGL

Careful here......the Neolube contains graphite as
it's lubricating medium. On insulated drivers it can
"bridge" the insulation band and cause them to then
be conductive. . . with the corresponding short across
the driver set......! Don't ask how I know this......!

Mal Houck

Correct. I was beyond careful, knowing that was a potential pitfall.

SGL





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nice shot of a rare twin-dome tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi,

There is a nice shot of a rare twin-dome tank car in the foreground of the image below.

http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&;strucID=131768&imageID=95134&total=6580&num=1100&word=railroad&s=1&notword=&d=&c=&f=&k=0&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&imgs=20&pos=1109&e=w

It is a long url, you might have to use the shortened one below.

http://tinyurl.com/ycmwrn9


Enjoy - Claus Schlund


Intermountain code 88 semiscale wheelsets

Andy Carlson
 

I have had concerns about the reported quality control problems with Intermountain's code 88 wheelsets after Intermountain's switch to a new wheel vendor over a year ago. Now I hear from a trusted source that the current wheelsets being offered by Intermountain have improved to acceptable levels.

So to all of those members of this list who have wished to purchase these from me over the past 18 months, now is a good time. I got a large enough stock that I can offer the 12 pack, which has an MSRP of $10.00, for the wholesale price of $6.00/pack of 12 axles. Contact me at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net> off-list (Please) if interested in these wheelsets, or in getting plain journal 70 Ton Intermountain trucks with these semiscale wheels for $3.75/pair. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


FGEX / Western Fruit Express Lettering

railsnw1 <railsnw@...>
 

Looking for a very sharp photo of the 2" lettering in the upper left side of steel reefers of FGEX/Western Fruit/BREX from the early 50's. I have photos of FHIX and WHIX cars from Bob's Photos and a builders photo of WHIX 70290 from PACCAR. This is for lettering WHIX 70325. Could also use a very sharp view of the end lettering.

Thanks,

Richard Wilkens


Re: Rapid prototyping - Printapart

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

Printapart was at our tank model club's convention a couple of year's ago. Their stuff was pretty good, but even for 1/35 scale models it was a bit rough. I saw the best application for things like cast armor hulls and turrets where the geometry was complex. Even then, I suspected that the pixelation would require puttying the surface for some final smoothing.

How big are these parts, Dennis?

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: soolinehistory

In conclusion, the project has been somewhat of a disappointment. It did
fulfill my minimum requirement, to provide SOMETHING to mount on the
valve, which is better than nothing, I suppose. The part is the right
size, and generally has the correct shape and contours, and will easily
get lost in the clutter of a detailed underbody. However, the quality
of the surface just isn't there. The resolution really needs to be
better by a factor of ten, and that's just not going to happen, at
least not in the foreseeable future. And until it does, we aren't
going to be getting our model trains out of Scotty's replicator.


Re: Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck

VINCE PUGLIESE
 

Please report on your findings...

.vp



________________________________
From: Ned Carey <nedspam@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups..com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck


Thank you Elden, Bruce, Brian and Vince for your replies.

I will go looking for aircraft interior black, rubber, Gunze Sanyo flat tire black, and Nato Tri Color Black. Checking Testors site, Rubber, it is not available in acrylic only enamel - probably why I couldn't find it.

I also agree that Oily Black does really well for oil spills, but you guys
need to tell me why; is it bluish?

I really like oily black. It is great for truck journals. Here is a link to Ned's models in the photos section.
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/STMFC/ photos/album/ 20463649/ pic/620723233/ view?picmode= &mode=tn& order=ordinal& start=1&count= 20&dir=asc
I find many oils to have an irridescent look to them as they refect light. Perhaps they are trying to achive this when formulating the color.

Ned Carey






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Rapid prototyping - Printapart

Dennis Storzek
 

List,



I've had a bit of time recently to explore the capabilities of rapid
prototyping as it might apply to custom designed parts for models.
I've taken the liberty of posting this to both the Steam Era
Freightcar List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/
<../../../../../STMFC/> and the PassengerCarList
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PassengerCarList/ <../../../../../> since
I know we've had discussions about this on both lists in the past.
In reality, this is a report on the technology, and that technology
could be applicable to producing parts for either freight or passenger
cars, if the quality is judged to be sufficient.



I was cleaning out the bookmarks on the office computer, and was
intrigued to find I had bookmarked the website of Printapart
http://www.printapart.com/ <http://www.printapart.com/> This firm
offers an easy to use rapid prototyping service; upload a .stl file of
the desired part, give them a credit card number, and the part(s) are in
the mail to you the next day. Sounds simple enough, provided you have
the software and skills to create the solid model… I do, so I
thought I'd give it a try. I have long despaired of ever finding an
HO scale passenger car brake cylinder with the Type L triple valve
mounted on the backhead; this was a very common arrangement on cars
built during the teens and twenties, contemporary with the K equipment
used on freight cars, but unlike the K brake, the L equipment was never
"outlawed" and could still be found in service right up to the
eve of Amtrak. Since there are effectively NO parts produced to model
this system, I decided that it was worth investing a few bucks for
custom parts, even if the result turned out to be less than pristine.



The Printapart web site states that they use the inVision si2 equipment
from 3D Systems and a Google search on that name will locate several
reviews of the equipment and its capabilities. This is a thermal jet
printing system that uses two different materials; a wax based support
material, and a UV curing acrylic that actually makes the part. Because
of the support material, parts with undercuts and overhangs are
possible, as disconnected portions of the part are supported until
subsequent layers connect them together. The support material is cleaned
away before the parts are shipped. The acrylic build material seems to
have physical properties similar to styrene, and bonds well with CA. The
material is translucent; Printapart claims blue, but my parts were so
small that they were practically clear.



Here is a link to a Flickr page that has a photo of the prototype,
screen grabs of several views of my solid (computer) model, and a
close-up photo of one of my finished parts mounted on a styrene PSC
brake cylinder.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/25967611@N04/4291288452/in/set-721576231256&;#92;
45997/
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/25967611@N04/4291288452/in/set-72157623125&;#92;
645997/>



You will note that I added a rather substantial mounting peg; I had
entertained the idea that if the parts turned out well enough, I'd
try to convince PSC to offer them as brass investment castings, since
the polymer can be used as an investment master material. Unfortunately,
I do not feel that the quality is sufficient for a commercial part, and
so won't be pursuing this any further.



Now for cost. Printapart has a nice automated cost calculator on their
web site; upload the file, tell them how many you want, and they
instantly quote the total cost, less shipping. In my case, ONE part
would have cost $55. One hundred (the maximum the calculator will allow)
would have cost $285, or a bit less than $3 each. I opted to order one
dozen for $79 plus $7 shipping, so each part cost me just a bit more
than $7. Just for information, I went back and priced the same part
without the mounting peg, but the part is so small that I'm dealing
with some sort of minimum charge, because the prices were exactly the
same. I order the parts on Friday, and they arrived the following
Tuesday via priority mail, although next day delivery is an extra cost
option.



In conclusion, the project has been somewhat of a disappointment. It did
fulfill my minimum requirement, to provide SOMETHING to mount on the
valve, which is better than nothing, I suppose. The part is the right
size, and generally has the correct shape and contours, and will easily
get lost in the clutter of a detailed underbody. However, the quality
of the surface just isn't there. The resolution really needs to be
better by a factor of ten, and that's just not going to happen, at
least not in the foreseeable future. And until it does, we aren't
going to be getting our model trains out of Scotty's replicator.


Dennis Storzek


Re: Painting black - was Painting X-3 deck

Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
 

Thank you Elden, Bruce, Brian and Vince for your replies.

I will go looking for aircraft interior black, rubber, Gunze Sanyo flat tire black, and Nato Tri Color Black. Checking Testors site, Rubber, it is not available in acrylic only enamel - probably why I couldn't find it.

I also agree that Oily Black does really well for oil spills, but you guys
need to tell me why; is it bluish?

I really like oily black. It is great for truck journals. Here is a link to Ned's models in the photos section.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/20463649/pic/620723233/view?picmode=&;mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
I find many oils to have an irridescent look to them as they refect light. Perhaps they are trying to achive this when formulating the color.

Ned Carey


Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian

I paint the faces of wheels with Neolube. It's fast and easier
than an airbrush and I get some extra rolling performance in the
bargain. What's not to like?

Tim O'Connor

At 1/20/2010 02:14 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
I'm curious, I use the Reboxx took, and Reboxx, Branchline, and IM semi-scale wheels. I hand fit trucks with an appropriate wheel set that provides some side play but is not sloppy, and I have very free rolling cars that allow 30 car trains on 2% grades(I haven't tried more) Why go to the added trouble of lubing the wheels? I assume neolube doesn't attarct dirt that would be another drawback. How long are the trains are you guys pulling?
brian carlson

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, railwayman <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: railwayman <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 1:38 PM


Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance

Brian Carlson
 

I'm curious, I use the Reboxx took, and Reboxx, Branchline, and IM semi-scale wheels. I hand fit trucks with an appropriate wheel set that provides some side play but is not sloppy, and I have very free rolling cars that allow 30 car trains on 2% grades(I haven't tried more) Why go to the added trouble of lubing the wheels? I assume neolube doesn't attarct dirt that would be another drawback.  How long are the trains are you guys pulling? 
brian carlson

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, railwayman <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: railwayman <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline reefer rolling resistance
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 1:38 PM






 

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