Thanks, guys, for informative answers and how-to-do-its. Any information on when the rebuilds were
done? (about the only data point not mentioned, I think.)

SGL

Hi Marty--Ah, but it is terribly easy if the width of the ends is correctly done. Just center the ends on the flat ends of the IM box and those very noticeable insets are in place.

Actually what I did was remove from the Tichy end the upper peaked and flat part, then cut the remaining lower part more or less down the middle, then glue in place one half so that the proper inset was visible. A styrene filler strip of appropriate width was than added, then the other half of the end glued in place. After cannibalizing the top three corrugations and the end peak from a donor end, the piece was split and attached in similar fashion. Now all that remains is to carve/file/sand matching contours into the styrene spacer. Far easier than carving the ladders off the end of a Bowser round roof boxcar! Takes a lot longer to write about than do, once the parts are gathered.

Resin kits are great, but I would rather work with the very high quality castings from IM and Tichy. And, at least in this case, I didn't have to wait six months from project inception to actual hands on.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

Sunshine Kit #64.11 has the Murphy ends and 1951 lettering. (It happens to be the last Sunshine kit I built before starting layout construction, so the box is easy to find!)

Prototype Data sheet also states 46900-46999 had 12 foot side door openings. Some of the cars had Dreadnaught ends and 5-foot striker spacing including: 95499-503; 95513-518; 93261-275; 93308-327 and 97086-087.

In addition to the characteristic visible framework along the sidesill, the Murphy-end cars on the L&N has a noticeable "inset" corner on the ends. I don't think it would be terribly easy to model that spotting feature using an Intermountain car and Tichy ends.

Marty

After two false starts thanks to connectivity issues, we will try this again!

Tangent Scale Models is pleased to announce bulk pricing for our new ASF 70-ton A3 Ride Control truck with all metal wheels! As you are already aware, this is a very important truck to those modeling the 1950s and later, and was utilized under many of the new freight cars - and rebuilds - from that era. Because of this, we would like to offer bulk pricing of our finely-executed, free rolling trucks.

Please feel free to visit our store at http://tangentscalemodels.com/acfgondolaundecoratedkitsandparts.aspx to learn more.

We thank you for your support of our new, family-owned and operated company. Please continue to send us your comments and suggestions - we love to hear from our customers! And for those that are still looking for our popular ACF gondolas, be aware we will be offering new goodies later this year - we will be sure to update this list accordingly!

Best Regards,

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models

I apologize for the previous post in error...

Hello STMFC listers,

Tangent Scale Models is pleased to offer modified pricing to our new 70 ton ASF
A3 Ride Control trucks with all-metal wheels. This is a very important truck to
those modeling the 1950s and later, and we recognize that consumers demand these
in bulk quantities.

Hello STMFC listers,

Tangent Scale Models is pleased to offer modified pricing to our new 70 ton ASF A3 Ride Control trucks with all-metal wheels. This is a very important truck to those modeling the 1950s and later, and we recognize that consumers demand these in bulk quantities.

The L&N rebuilt cars with 3713 cuft (same as a 1937 AAR box car) are
listed in the ORER

series 93000-94199 -- 532 cars in 1955
series 94200-95541 -- 643 cars in 1955
series 95800-97091 -- 1251 cars in 1955

I thought there was a Sunshine kit (or kits) for these L&N rebuilds.
Not so?

I have a very nice color shot of a car with the 3/7/8 end but it has
been renumbered L&N 41064.

Tim O'Connor

On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

<http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-10/
eburg.jpg>

East Stroudsburg, no date. But I'm curious about the end on the
L&N car: from the top, a 3/7/8 rib
end? At a glance, the side seems more modern than that. What is
that beast??

I have several photos of these cars, Schuyler. They were rebuilds of
1920s ARA single sheathed box cars with new sides, doors, and roofs
on the original underframes and ends, with an extra three
corrugations added at the top of the 7/8 ends to increase their
height. L&N had a lot of them. I can supply number series and other
info if you're interested.

Richard Hendrickson

Hi Schuyler--An L&N fan can fill in the blanks, but here is what I know. Just before the war L&N rebuilt a bunch of single sheathed boxcars. 10' IH. Some had ends like this, some had dreadnaught ends. These cars are in the 93xxx, 94xxx, 96xxx series and maybe others. You can see the inset sideframes from the original single sheathed car's frame.

Interesting to model: Intermountain 1937 AAR box on a Tichy SS frame. The ends have to be pieced together, including widening them a bit by adding a strip in the center.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

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East Stroudsburg, no date. But I'm curious about the end on the L&N car: from the top, a 3/7/8 rib
end? At a glance, the side seems more modern than that. What is that beast??



SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

ivirus/

I don't mean to be cynical, Al, but that is likely to be happening sooner or later as these alternative-to-the-NMRA meets happen. It is simply impossible to avoid conflicting dates. People will have to make choices.

SGL

I believe that is right on top of the C&O HS Spring Work Session in Clifton Forge on April 21st-25th?

Al Kresse


Guys

Myself and a couple of my buds are in the process of putting together the first prototype model meet in Central Ohio.
This event, to be held April 22-24, will be at Marion Union Station in Marion, OH. Many of you are familiar with this
station as one of the hotspots of railfanning in North America. We will combine model trains with the prototype.
We have secured the station for the weekend and are in the process of lining up a block of hotel rooms as well.

Please be sure to include this event in your schedule of things to do this spring.

I will get more details out as they are available.

Please feel free to contact me if you need more information or if you would be will to do a presentation or a clinic at the
meet.

We look forward to seeing many of you at the Meet.

Regards,

Denis Blake
John Peters
Kevin Tweed and Others

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East Stroudsburg, no date. But I'm curious about the end on the L&N car: from the top, a 3/7/8 rib
end? At a glance, the side seems more modern than that. What is that beast??



SGL
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Al and all

It is what it is. The date is set, the building is secured and we are going ahead with this.

Denis

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Guys

Myself and a couple of my buds are in the process of putting together the first prototype model meet in Central Ohio.
This event, to be held April 22-24, will be at Marion Union Station in Marion, OH. Many of you are familiar with this station as one of the hotspots of railfanning in North America. We will combine model trains with the prototype.
We have secured the station for the weekend and are in the process of lining up a block of hotel rooms as well.

Please be sure to include this event in your schedule of things to do this spring.

I will get more details out as they are available.

Please feel free to contact me if you need more information or if you would be will to do a presentation or a clinic at the meet.

We look forward to seeing many of you at the Meet.

Regards,

Denis Blake
John Peters
Kevin Tweed and Others







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I believe that is right on top of the C&O HS Spring Work Session in Clifton Forge on April 21st-25th?



Al Kresse

<richtownsend@netscape.net> 01/16/10 8:41 PM >>>

I am working on a kitbash of a tank car with a deck at the end similar
to the X-3 (in fact, identical to the X-3: it's an X-5). Does anyone
have good advice on how this deck should be painted? I am thinking of a
weathered gray. Does the Sunshine X-3 kit include painting suggestions?

Richard,

The Sunshine X-3 and X-5 kit directions (Sunshine does make an X-5 <G>)
do not have any specific instructions for the deck. As best I can tell
from photos, it was usually painted the same color as the tank. If you
are modeling a tank that has not been painted in some time (many years),
then weathered wood showing through might be appropriate, but in
general, it looks like these ought to be painted (and usually black).
In general, tank cars were well taken care of and so I find it unlikely
that many were allowed to progress to the point where the paint on the
decks failed (note that reweight dates are not accurate measures of any
type of service, repair or re-painting on tank cars).

My approach, when I finally get around to doing some of these kits, will
be to paint the whole car a lightened black (steam power black, cockpit
interior black, etc) and then to weather it with tarnished black. For
that really old paint, you might consider dry brushing with a color like
grey to show some raw wood breaking through the paint, but I would make
this the exception to my tank car weathering, not the rule.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

Richard

Best tank car deck weathering I've seen appeared in an article
on modeling SP fire train tank cars in Mainline Modeler, March 1982.
Includes some good color photos.

Tim O'Connor

Pierre and All,

Yes, '07 was a typo, should have been '09! I just sent my December order in Saturday, the 16th. I too, wish Martin well as I know how operations can go. I have been under the knife 16 times in my 66 years! So far, so good!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu

Guys

Myself and a couple of my buds are in the process of putting together the first prototype model meet in Central Ohio.
This event, to be held April 22-24, will be at Marion Union Station in Marion, OH. Many of you are familiar with this station as one of the hotspots of railfanning in North America. We will combine model trains with the prototype.
We have secured the station for the weekend and are in the process of lining up a block of hotel rooms as well.

Please be sure to include this event in your schedule of things to do this spring.

I will get more details out as they are available.

Please feel free to contact me if you need more information or if you would be will to do a presentation or a clinic at the meet.

We look forward to seeing many of you at the Meet.

Regards,

Denis Blake
John Peters
Kevin Tweed and Others

I am working on a kitbash of a tank car with a deck at the end similar to the X-3 (in fact, identical to the X-3: it's an X-5). Does anyone have good advice on how this deck should be painted? I am thinking of a weathered gray. Does the Sunshine X-3 kit include painting suggestions?


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon










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DENNIS:

IN ADDITION TO THE E-MAIL ADDRESS (www.rocketexpress.biz) I HAVE
THE FOLLOWING MAILING ADDRESS FOR ROCKET EXPRESS:

RON VON WERDER
ROCKET EXPRESS
P.O. BOX 34
WASHINGTONVILLE, NY10992

RON DOES GREAT WORK BUT SOMETIMES SEEMS TO BE DIFFICULT TO
CONTACTWHICH IS WHY I BOUGHT THE CAR IN NAPERVILLE

GOOD LUCK :

BILL PARDIE
On Jan 15, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Dennis Williams wrote:

Where can I get one of these?? I tried to contact with no reply.
Dennis

Dennis Williams
Munhall, Pa.
www.resinbuilders4u.com

--- On Fri, 1/15/10, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@HAWAII.RR.COM> wrote:

From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@HAWAII.RR.COM>
Subject: [STMFC] PHOTO HELP NEEDED
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:02 PM

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Now that you are all back from sunny Florida I

hope someone can

help me with a photo request. Over the years my

ability to purchase

kits has far exceeded my ability to complete

them (Does this sound
familiar?). Thus I vowed to cut back on
my buys. At Naperville I did buy one kit. I had
been very pleased
with Rocket Express's 50' RI auto car. I there-
fore picked up a 40' version. I
bought the car with the end
door (Car Numbers 160250 - 160599). When I got home I
found that I do
have some photos of the "B" end. I do not, however,
have any photos of the door end.
hopefully someone can help.

Thanks in advance:

Bill Pardie

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Rain is forecast for this evening, but the weather here on the west coast of Florida, north of Sarasota about 100 miles directly west of Cocoa Beach, has been very pleasant these past few days. I took this photo late yesterday afternoon from my beach chair about 20 yards off the patio of the place where we're staying:

http://home.att.net/~pullmanproject/Anna_Maria_Island_sunset_1.jpg

I did have to set my wine glass down to take it and break away from reviewing the CD-ROM instructions for the very nice Wright Track B&O M53 I picked up at P. Rails. Most impressed with both the design and execution. Congrats to Jim King and the Wright Track folks for a job well done. And a reiteration of my thanks to Mike, Marty and all the others for making Prototype Rails '10 a wonderful experience despite the weather.

Tom Madden