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Re: Flicker Free Circuit

Jim Betz
 

Michael,

The full wave bridge rectifier is small and cheap and, at least
in HO, there is no reason not to use it. And yes, it is why the
circuit works equally well in both DC and DCC.
- Jim
1.1. Re: Caboose Trucks
Posted by: "michaelashelley" mashelley@earthlink.net
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:22 am ((PST))



That is very similar to a circuit I've used to run an Atlas
turntable motor using DCC track power. I was later told that
the full wave bridge rectifier is not really needed - although
I think it's necessary if you ever ran the caboose on regular
DC track.

Somone else might want to test the circuit without the rectifier,
since it's been a long time since I took Electrical Circuits 2.

Michael A. Shelley


Tangent 70-ton ASF A-3 Ride Control Trucks

bnsd45
 

Gents,

There was an onlist discussion recently about the Tangent Scale Models ASF 70-ton ASF A-3 Ride Control Trucks. These trucks are absolutely essential for modelers in the 1950s and are found under many different types of cars.

In response to customer demand, we now offer quantity discounts for the trucks when purchased directly from us - we offer discounts for 6, 12, and 24 pairs. We also now offer high res photos of the trucks, which are posted at:

http://tangentscalemodels.com/acfgondolaundecoratedkitsandparts.aspx

Click on any of the product skus for sale on that page and you can see a high res photo of the car.

Some have asked about the wheels on these cars. If you have purchased our ACF gondolas, you know that all metal wheels like ours roll exceptionally well. We are considering code 88 wheels for these trucks at this time but are not available.

Finally, we are working on a new run of our ACF gondolas at this time. Stay tuned; we'll be sure to announce here when we have them in stock!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models
Asheville NC


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two: Tank Cars

Mark
 

I placed a large order at Karens Books and that was one of the items. I would have but some of the titles are not available from Ted!

Thank you all for the replies.

Mark Morgan

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, b.hom@... wrote:

Mark Morgan wrote:
"I copied the text from Teds site. Are these available? I ordered one from Karen's Books and
she has not received any."

I bought my copy two years ago directly from Ted. Why didn't you order directly from him?


Ben Hom


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Craig Zeni
 

7c. Re: Fwd: New Kadee Trucks
Posted by: "Tim O'Connor" timboconnor@comcast.net cf5250
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:11 pm ((PST))

Tony

I did some simple roll tests with out-of-the-box Kadee
cars with the new HGC trucks and the old metal trucks --
the results were remarkable. The new trucks roll very
well, far better than the old trucks. (Tests were run with
actual cars on trucks, not just trucks by themselves.)

The Atlantic Coast Line cars came with the "ACL Barber S-2" trucks had the first Kadee trucks to use the HGC material. And the difference in rolling is enormous...there is simply no comparision. And I think the springs look better on the new trucks.




Craig Zeni

Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.


Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

Guy Wilber
 

Tim wrote:


They were not "1937" box cars.

Tim,

What characteristics distinguished these cars vs. the "1937" design?

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


TEDS NEW BOOK

brooklynbus <mec-bml@...>
 

PLEASE Does this book have a ISBN number if so what is it?and you can answer this question off line..
Thanks
Joel Norman


Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yes, John, it certainly would have.



Schuyler Larrabee

Former Chairman, now Board Member, ELHS.


SGL



Thanks Tim, for the information, Apex it is. Ben, I thought for a moment that the ELHS had made a mistake! Boy, that would have been embarrassing.
John

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net <mailto:timboconnor%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net <mailto:timboconnor%40comcast.net> >
Subject: [STMFC] Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 1:52 PM



They were not "1937" box cars.

DL&W 53000-53259 were 10'0" IH box cars built by Magor in 1950.
According to my notes all had APEX rb; no info on hand brakes.
All had 8-rung ladders too. DL&W cars with Youngstown doors in
these series (incl 52000-52249, 52500-52999) were 5-6-5 style.
Some (from the 3 series) had Superior doors, don't know which.

From Rich Burg:

"The equipment diagram for [53000-53259] shows the truck side frames to be
a mix of ACF-21359-AE, and Symington-Gould TF5318, with Sym-Gould bolsters.
Three cars had Chrysler high speed trucks (#53004, 53090, 53126). The cars
were built by Magor Car Corp. in Jan-Feb 1950. Ten cars were equipped with
DF loaders and renumbered 84975-84984. "

Tim O'Connor

At 3/11/2010 02:38 PM Thursday, you wrote:
John F. Cizmar asked:
"Would anyone know what type of roofwalk and hand brake was supplied by Magor when the DL&W box cars were built? I'd like to upgrade the RTR boxcar I got for Christmas with a Kaydee Apex (if correct)."

Request double checking your car number - 53133 doesn't fit any of the DL&W car series in Ed Hawkins' table of 1937 AAR boxcars on the Steam Era Freight Cars website.
http://www.steamfre ightcars. com/prototype/ frtcars/1937aarp dfmain.html


Ben Hom
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Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two: Tank Cars

Brian Carlson
 

I don't think these are available from anyone but Ted.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
bnonut
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:40 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two: Tank
Cars





I copied the text from Teds site. Are these available? I ordered one from
Karen's Books and she has not received any.

Thank You,
Mark Morgan


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

my mistake. but they do look similar.

Kadee's new 70 ton ASF ride control, solid bearing truck!

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page566.htm

Tim O'Connor

Kadee has listed more of their new HGC plastic trucks.
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/newprod.htm
That's odd, the Kadee web site calls it a Barber S-2. Of course, the only difference may be the internal parts in the bolster, but it appears to be Barber lettering on the side frame.

Dennis


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Ed Hawkins
 

On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:53 PM, soolinehistory wrote:

That's odd, the Kadee web site calls it a Barber S-2. Of course, the
only difference may be the internal parts in the bolster, but it
appears to be Barber lettering on the side frame.
Dennis
Dennis,
The link you clicked on was for truck 566. There are actually a number
of new trucks, numbers 561-566, that are shown at:

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/truck.htm

or

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/newprod.htm

All of these are made of a material now being used called HGC (Heavy
Gravity Compound).
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Kadee's new 70 ton ASF ride control, solid bearing truck!

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page566.htm

Tim O'Connor

Kadee has listed more of their new HGC plastic trucks.
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/newprod.htm
That's odd, the Kadee web site calls it a Barber S-2. Of course, the only difference may be the internal parts in the bolster, but it appears to be Barber lettering on the side frame.

Dennis


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

I did some simple roll tests with out-of-the-box Kadee
cars with the new HGC trucks and the old metal trucks --
the results were remarkable. The new trucks roll very
well, far better than the old trucks. (Tests were run with
actual cars on trucks, not just trucks by themselves.)

I too would prefer .088 wheel treads. Keep campaigning
for them! At least they could be offered on separately
sold trucks, if not on RTR cars.

Tim O'Connor

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Kadee's new 70 ton ASF ride control, solid bearing truck!

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page566.htm
Thanks, Tim, a good addition. Though they call them "friction
bearing" trucks (boo) and it appears that they have 0,110" wheel
treads. I've been hoping that they would begin to offer the 0,088"
treads as an option, one of these days. And $8.95 ain't cheap, either.

Tony Thompson


Re: New Kadee Trucks

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Kadee's new 70 ton ASF ride control, solid bearing truck!

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page566.htm
Thanks, Tim, a good addition. Though they call them "friction bearing" trucks (boo) and it appears that they have 0,110" wheel treads. I've been hoping that they would begin to offer the 0,088" treads as an option, one of these days. And $8.95 ain't cheap, either.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


New Kadee Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

Kadee's new 70 ton ASF ride control, solid bearing truck!

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page566.htm

Tim O'Connor

Kadee has listed more of their new HGC plastic trucks.
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/newprod.htm


Re: Making Rivets

Aley, Jeff A
 

Tom,

This does not surprise me; in fact, when I first heard about these, I immediately thought of the epoxy-dispensing robots in our (Intel's) factories. In our case, the machine (I do not know the mfr) was loaded with a specially-made syringe of epoxy. The head of the machine would move, in a manner similar to the X-Y pen plotters, and dispense a controlled amount of epoxy as it went (either lines of epoxy, or individual dots, as required).

BTW, current machines are NOT slow. I just Googled "die attach" and one company makes a machine that dispenses the epoxy and places the computer chip (called a "die") at a rate of 18,000 units per hour (I infer that it processes several in parallel).

Regards,

-Jeff




From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pullmanboss
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:33 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Making Rivets



They are expensive to make. I've been told they are made using the same technology/equipment the electronics industry uses to apply microdroplets of conductive adhesive for bonding integrated circuits. The rivets are jetted onto the film, not screened on en masse. I don't know whether it's a done by rows, like an ink jet printer, or individually, by traversing the head or substrate. I'm sure it's a fast process, but it's not a mass process.

Tom Madden


Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

John F. Cizmar
 

Thanks Tim, for the information, Apex it is.  Ben, I thought for a moment that the ELHS had made a mistake!   Boy, that would have been embarrassing.
John

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 1:52 PM


 




They were not "1937" box cars.

DL&W 53000-53259 were 10'0" IH box cars built by Magor in 1950.
According to my notes all had APEX rb; no info on hand brakes.
All had 8-rung ladders too. DL&W cars with Youngstown doors in
these series (incl 52000-52249, 52500-52999) were 5-6-5 style.
Some (from the 3 series) had Superior doors, don't know which.

From Rich Burg:

"The equipment diagram for [53000-53259] shows the truck side frames to be
a mix of ACF-21359-AE, and Symington-Gould TF5318, with Sym-Gould bolsters.
Three cars had Chrysler high speed trucks (#53004, 53090, 53126). The cars
were built by Magor Car Corp. in Jan-Feb 1950. Ten cars were equipped with
DF loaders and renumbered 84975-84984. "

Tim O'Connor

At 3/11/2010 02:38 PM Thursday, you wrote:
John F. Cizmar asked:
"Would anyone know what type of roofwalk and hand brake was supplied by Magor when the DL&W box cars were built? I'd like to upgrade the RTR boxcar I got for Christmas with a Kaydee Apex (if correct)."

Request double checking your car number - 53133 doesn't fit any of the DL&W car series in Ed Hawkins' table of 1937 AAR boxcars on the Steam Era Freight Cars website.
http://www.steamfre ightcars. com/prototype/ frtcars/1937aarp dfmain.html


Ben Hom










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GN Lettering Help

railsnw1 <railsnw@...>
 

Trying to finish up drawing some lettering for GN 50' Automobile Boxcars 43900 to 43999 and I'm having some issues with the paint codes. Can someone provide photos or documents (drawings, letters, etc) explaining the size of lettering and the different codes. From the few clear photos I have found it looks like the suppliers name, date, and shop??? I'm looking for proper type for mid 1950's.

Thanks,

Richard Wilkens


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two: Tank Cars

frograbbit602
 

Mark,

If you can cancel your current order you can call Speedwitch Media or Ted and order the book direct. The number listed in Vol 2: Tank Cars is 203-453-6174. I ordered mine direct when came out and got the book in several days from Ted.

Lester Breuer

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "bnonut" <bnonut@...> wrote:

I copied the text from Teds site. Are these available? I ordered one from Karen's Books and she has not received any.

Thank You,
Mark Morgan


Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 

They were not "1937" box cars.

DL&W 53000-53259 were 10'0" IH box cars built by Magor in 1950.
According to my notes all had APEX rb; no info on hand brakes.
All had 8-rung ladders too. DL&W cars with Youngstown doors in
these series (incl 52000-52249, 52500-52999) were 5-6-5 style.
Some (from the 3 series) had Superior doors, don't know which.

From Rich Burg:

"The equipment diagram for [53000-53259] shows the truck side frames to be
a mix of ACF-21359-AE, and Symington-Gould TF5318, with Sym-Gould bolsters.
Three cars had Chrysler high speed trucks (#53004, 53090, 53126). The cars
were built by Magor Car Corp. in Jan-Feb 1950. Ten cars were equipped with
DF loaders and renumbered 84975-84984."

Tim O'Connor

At 3/11/2010 02:38 PM Thursday, you wrote:
John F. Cizmar asked:
"Would anyone know what type of roofwalk and hand brake was supplied by Magor when the DL&W box cars were built? I'd like to upgrade the RTR boxcar I got for Christmas with a Kaydee Apex (if correct)."

Request double checking your car number - 53133 doesn't fit any of the DL&W car series in Ed Hawkins' table of 1937 AAR boxcars on the Steam Era Freight Cars website.
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html


Ben Hom


Re: DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

John F. Cizmar
 

Don,
That's interesting as the ELHS lists in the features of these models as having steel roofwalks.  
John

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Don Burn <burn@windrvr.com> wrote:


From: Don Burn <burn@windrvr.com>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 1:30 PM


 



You might check out
http://steamfreight cars.com/ prototype/ frtcars/1937aarp dfmain.html since it
lists the 5 orders from the DL&W. According to that document all the roof
walks were wood, and the brake wheel was Ajax except for one order with
Equipco.

Don Burn

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From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
John F. Cizmar
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:25 PM
To: Steam Freight Cars
Subject: [STMFC] DL&W 53133 40' 1937 boxcar

Would anyone know what type of roofwalk and hand brake was supplied by
Magor when the DL&W box cars were built?  I'd like to upgrade the RTR
boxcar I got for Christmas with a Kaydee Apex (if correct).
John F. Cizmar




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