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Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Tim O'Connor
 


It looks like fresh unpainted wood i.e. "patches" to me, Schuyler. I do not recognize
the cars at all. They don't look like anything that I know of from the New Haven. I'm
curious if anyone can figure out what they are. But I agree the photo scan is so poor
that nothing can be inferred about the lettering.

Tim O'Connor



On 2/25/2020 12:32 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io wrote:

I don’t think those are “repairs.”  And at that distance and the age of the cars, dimensions and weight information may be there, faded, but not visible.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

 

couple of ss boxcars, apparently in inhouse service as all dims and weight

remarks all removed, and appears that

both had repairs to the same spot.on

both.cars, just to the left of the door,

can't remember that being a weak

structural spot in the ss design?

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:17 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

A Donald Haskel photo taken in August 1960:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/305071/

A good variety of cars and roads.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Ice Reefer Conversions to Mechanical?

Tony Thompson
 

Jim Betz wrote:

  It occurs to me to ask - did any of the RRs/owners convert ice reefers to
mechanical by adding a refridgeration unit in the ice bunker section of
the car?  Don't remember ever seeing a photo of such ...
  I know that they were used in other services (essentially a box car) - I'm
asking about still being used for reefers - just not ice.

   Yes, several did (see the PFE book, for example). No one ended up happy with the result. The available trucking-type refrigeration units weren't robust enough; the old 40-ft. cars weren't very big inside, and had only 6-foot door openings; and insulation of older cars wasn't as good as what was going into new mechanical reefers. And refrigeration in one end, though it meant you could use the other ice bunker space for cargo, also required rebuilding and adding air circulation means to the car.

Tony Thompson




Ice Reefer Conversions to Mechanical?

Jim Betz
 

Hi,
  It occurs to me to ask - did any of the RRs/owners convert ice reefers to
mechanical by adding a refridgeration unit in the ice bunker section of
the car?  Don't remember ever seeing a photo of such ...
  I know that they were used in other services (essentially a box car) - I'm
asking about still being used for reefers - just not ice.
                                                                                                 - Jim


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Ken Adams
 

And the side deformation on that gondola. 


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I don’t think those are “repairs.”  And at that distance and the age of the cars, dimensions and weight information may be there, faded, but not visible.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

 

couple of ss boxcars, apparently in inhouse service as all dims and weight

remarks all removed, and appears that

both had repairs to the same spot.on

both.cars, just to the left of the door,

can't remember that being a weak

structural spot in the ss design?

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:17 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

A Donald Haskel photo taken in August 1960:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/305071/

A good variety of cars and roads.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

mel perry
 

couple of ss boxcars, apparently in inhouse service as all dims and weight
remarks all removed, and appears that
both had repairs to the same spot.on
both.cars, just to the left of the door,
can't remember that being a weak
structural spot in the ss design?

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:17 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

A Donald Haskel photo taken in August 1960:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/305071/

A good variety of cars and roads.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Tim O'Connor
 

Sweet. Notice the nearly hidden Canadian Pacific wood reefer seen above and behind
the gondola coupled to the PFE reefer in the foreground.

I'd like to know what that green tank car is.

Tim O'Connor

On 2/25/2020 11:17 AM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

A Donald Haskel photo taken in August 1960:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/305071/

A good variety of cars and roads.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Seeking advice on Kadee 4000 boxcar use on Southeastern Road

Benjamin Hom
 

Allen Cain asked:
"I have come into several Kadee 4000 undecorated boxcars 1950-1953 Narrow Tab 40' PS-1 Boxcar with 6' Youngstown Door.
I am seeking advice for info on any southeastern roads that would have used this car in the 1950 to 1955 timeframe. Any suggestions? And if you have photos even better!
https://www.kadee.com/ho-scale-rtr-cars-c-274_278_290/4000-ho-scale-undecorated-19501953-narrow-tab-40-ps1-boxcar-with-6-youngstown-door-boxcar-red-rtr-p-624.htm

Fenton Wells replied:
"Allen go to the Steam Era Freight Car site and look at Pat Widers summary of PS-1 boxcars.  That should give you what you want."

Actually, Ed Hawkins.  It's a MS Excel file, so you'll need MS Office or an Open Office app to open it.
http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/PullmanStandard40ftPS1boxcars.xls


Ben Hom


Re: Seeking advice on Kadee 4000 boxcar use on Southeastern Road

Tim O'Connor
 


????????

Just look on the Kadee web site under discontinued models - You will find virtually
every southeastern owner of the cars there.




On 2/25/2020 10:48 AM, Allen Cain wrote:
I have come into several Kadee 4000 undecorated boxcars 1950-1953 Narrow Tab 40' PS-1 Boxcar with 6' Youngstown Door.
I am seeking advice for info on any southeastern roads that would have used this car in the 1950 to 1955 timeframe. Any suggestions? And if you have photos even better!
Thanks,
Allen Cain


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

A Donald Haskel photo taken in August 1960:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/305071/

A good variety of cars and roads.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Seeking advice on Kadee 4000 boxcar use on Southeastern Road

O Fenton Wells
 

Allen go to the Steam Era Freight Car site and look at Pat Widers summary of PS-1 boxcars.  That should give you what you want.
Fenton

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:48 AM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
I have come into several Kadee 4000 undecorated boxcars 1950-1953 Narrow Tab 40' PS-1 Boxcar with 6' Youngstown Door.
I am seeking advice for info on any southeastern roads that would have used this car in the 1950 to 1955 timeframe. Any suggestions? And if you have photos even better!

Thanks,

Allen Cain



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Seeking advice on Kadee 4000 boxcar use on Southeastern Road

Allen Cain
 

I have come into several Kadee 4000 undecorated boxcars 1950-1953 Narrow Tab 40' PS-1 Boxcar with 6' Youngstown Door.
I am seeking advice for info on any southeastern roads that would have used this car in the 1950 to 1955 timeframe. Any suggestions? And if you have photos even better!

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Tim O'Connor
 


I think the page belonged to Jim Hayes. I have not heard from him in a while.




On 2/24/2020 3:17 PM, Lawrence Rast wrote:
Chuck,

Yes, I’m receiving the same response. I, too, us the site regularly. I’m curious to hear what response you get.

Best,
Lawrence Rast
Fort Wayne, IN


On Feb 24, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

I have tried several times to connect to the Sunshine kits web page but I am directed to a page that says "This Account has been suspended".    I emailed the hosting provider per the page link, but have not heard back yet.

I reference the site often researching kits and prototype information.  Has anyone else had this experience?

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

 

….and definitely thank you to Jim Hayes for the effort to put this up and keep it going this long!!!  I cant tell you how many times I've gone there.

Regards,

Mike Aufderheide


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

gtws00
 

That is great news Eric. I am sure this is a somewhat tedious project but one that will be greatly appreciated
George Toman


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Bill Keene
 

Eric,

Thank You. 
This is one less worry in my modeling life. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Feb 24, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

The Sunshine Kits website is gone at this time. Jim did not renew the website contract. 
 
I’ve been working with Jim to move things to the Resin Car Works site and add more. But there have been delays. I saved the source HTML for each page and have all the PDF files. We will post an announcement on the RCW blog when it’s ready to use again.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 
 
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page
 
If I recall, Jim’s daughter helped him put the site together, Jim was not the techie behind the website. If it is not available it is mostly likely because the domain host has not been paid or renewed. Jim may not be aware. Give him some time to be notified and rectify the problem.
 
Doug  Harding
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:03 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page
 
has anyone checked the internet archives?
:-)
mel perry
 
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 12:15 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:
Group,

I have tried several times to connect to the Sunshine kits web page but I am directed to a page that says "This Account has been suspended".    I emailed the hosting provider per the page link, but have not heard back yet.

I reference the site often researching kits and prototype information.  Has anyone else had this experience?

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM 



Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Chuck Cover
 

Eric,

 

Thanks for pursuing this.  I know many of us use this web site frequently as a reference and not having it would leave a big void. 

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Tony Thompson
 

Eric Hansmann wrote:

The Sunshine Kits website is gone at this time. Jim did not renew the website contract.
 
I’ve been working with Jim to move things to the Resin Car Works site and add more. But there have been delays. I saved the source HTML for each page and have all the PDF files. We will post an announcement on the RCW blog when it’s ready to use again.

   Thanks for taking this on, Eric. The Sunshine information is very valuable.

Tony Thompson




Re: Sunshine Kits web page

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Great news, Eric. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Feb 24, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:



The Sunshine Kits website is gone at this time. Jim did not renew the website contract.

 

I’ve been working with Jim to move things to the Resin Car Works site and add more. But there have been delays. I saved the source HTML for each page and have all the PDF files. We will post an announcement on the RCW blog when it’s ready to use again.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page

 

If I recall, Jim’s daughter helped him put the site together, Jim was not the techie behind the website. If it is not available it is mostly likely because the domain host has not been paid or renewed. Jim may not be aware. Give him some time to be notified and rectify the problem.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:03 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page

 

has anyone checked the internet archives?

:-)

mel perry

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 12:15 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

I have tried several times to connect to the Sunshine kits web page but I am directed to a page that says "This Account has been suspended".    I emailed the hosting provider per the page link, but have not heard back yet.

I reference the site often researching kits and prototype information.  Has anyone else had this experience?

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Sunshine Kits web page

Eric Hansmann
 

The Sunshine Kits website is gone at this time. Jim did not renew the website contract.

 

I’ve been working with Jim to move things to the Resin Car Works site and add more. But there have been delays. I saved the source HTML for each page and have all the PDF files. We will post an announcement on the RCW blog when it’s ready to use again.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page

 

If I recall, Jim’s daughter helped him put the site together, Jim was not the techie behind the website. If it is not available it is mostly likely because the domain host has not been paid or renewed. Jim may not be aware. Give him some time to be notified and rectify the problem.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:03 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sunshine Kits web page

 

has anyone checked the internet archives?

:-)

mel perry

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 12:15 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

I have tried several times to connect to the Sunshine kits web page but I am directed to a page that says "This Account has been suspended".    I emailed the hosting provider per the page link, but have not heard back yet.

I reference the site often researching kits and prototype information.  Has anyone else had this experience?

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM