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Re: Tangent Scale Models: NEW HO ACF 70-ton welded drop-end Gondola available now!!

bnsd45
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Thanks. I guess what I meant was -- is the floor loose so I can
remove it to weather it separately from the car sides?
Yes the wood floor is a separate part.

And thanks for the G31A info -- I noticed the difference in the
staples, and the ends, after studying some photos.
No problem!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


Re: Ambroid Vinegar Car Plans

mici256751
 

Rick,

If you are still looking for this instruction sheet, I just came upon the one I have from the kit I built back in 1959. I would be happy copy it for you.
If you are still in need of it, please contact me off list with your preferred contact information.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV
kuban@labs.net

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rdietrichson" <Rdietrichson@...> wrote:

Good morning all,
Does anyone out there have the plan sheet for the Ambroid vinegar car that could send it to me. I recently acquired the kit, but alas there is no plan sheet.
Thank you,
Rick Dietrichson
Wilmington, NC
Rdietrichson@...


Re: Athearn underframes

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bud Brock wrote:
IF I am not mistaken the blue box underframes were wrong. The brake cylinder faced the wrong direction. Is there any chance someone is making a correct replacement underframe or are there any suggestions for substitutions?
Yes, it's wrong, but as a separate part can always be oriented so the cylinder points to the B end. But the problem is that the cylinder is then on the wrong side of the center sill. The usual explanation is that the Athearn boys misread the standard railroad underframe drawing, which shows the underframe from ABOVE, and interpreted it as showing the underframe from BELOW.
The cylinder can, of course, easily be cut off and moved.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Oil industry info sought (steam era- tank cars etc)

milepost1 <sryn.dump@...>
 

Maybe I'm using the wrong keywords but I haven't had a great deal of work doing research related to small town oil storage depots in the 1930's.

In regards to this group I'm looking for some info that members might be able to point me toward.

I'm interested in STANDARD OIL and the way they transported oil to their small town distributors. I know that there was a siding SPECIFICALLY for a facility which meant that the railroad brought it in. So some type of tank car was used.

I've yet to find good photos and or drawings of Standard Oil cars circa 1930-40. Does this mean that Standard Oil didn't have their own fleet? If that is the case were they using a carrier? I don't know.

The fact that there were multiple tanks at the facilty would suggest that there were possibly multiple products. Did they ship different products in the same tank car? (I don't know but wonder if that is why some tanks had multiple domes. (You now see a glimpse of my ignorance.)

Are there good "books" on this subject?
Are there drawings? (I've looked at some commercial cars but they seem to lack the same details that I've seen in 1930 era tank cars.

I'm just trying to get the details right.

Thanks.

Gordon


Re: CBQ IN MISSOURI

estcbq@...
 

try CBQ@yahoogroups.com should offer you a bundle of information--jim young

-----Original Message-----
From: brooklynbus <mec-bml@sbcglobal.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 9:42 am
Subject: [STMFC] CBQ IN MISSOURI






GENTLEMAN:This maybe alittle off subject but Im looking for a CBQ modeler who may know something about the CBQ operations in Missouri,with a focus on a short line they operated..the QO&KC.
If this off subject please pass along to whom may know something of this subject.
Thanks
Joel Norman--Missouri


Athearn underframes

Bud Brock
 

IF I am not mistaken the blue box underframes were wrong. The brake cylinder faced the wrong direction. Is there any chance someone is making a correct replacement underframe or are there any suggestions for substitutions?

Bud Brock


CBQ IN MISSOURI

brooklynbus <mec-bml@...>
 

GENTLEMAN:This maybe alittle off subject but Im looking for a CBQ modeler who may know something about the CBQ operations in Missouri,with a focus on a short line they operated..the QO&KC.
If this off subject please pass along to whom may know something of this subject.
Thanks
Joel Norman--Missouri


Tangent

Paul Catapano
 

My post is what happens when you:
 
A) Are on digest mode
 
B) Don't read all your e-mails BEFORE asking a question.
 
A friend sent me the info on Tangent before I got to the Steam Era digest e-mail. Most of the Steam Era list posts answered all my questions.
 
Thank you.

Paul Catapano

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Re: Tangent Scale Models: NEW HO ACF 70-ton welded drop-end Gondola available now!!

jerryglow2
 

If he's (Martin) going to charge manufacturers for tables, I suspect they're not there just for the fun. Unless he has some restriction, it's not our call.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Jim, Larry Grubb arrived at Naperville with test shots of the new
Proto 2000 Greenville gondola only a short time after Martin had
produced resin kits for the very same car... So it's all in keeping
with tradition.

Tim O'Connor


At 10/23/2009 03:29 PM Friday, you wrote:
I'm not real sure asking Tangent to make UTLX & GATC tank cars in plastic
should be done at a Sunshine sponsored event where Sunshine UTLX & GATC tank
cars are offered.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

--------------------------------
Maybe David and Tangent Scale Models would be a good person to line
up in front of with our UTLX X-3 photos. We could bring some GATX
photos also.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


Re: Tangent Scale Models

pennsylvania1954
 

Hi Paul--See Elden Gatwood's message earlier, #85913.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Paul Catapano <pc66ot@...> wrote:

Can any of the "SPF"'s comment on the new PRR G31B gondola offer by Tangent?
 
http://tangentscalemodels.com/
 
Thank you in advance for your time.

Paul Catapano

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Re: Missing links

Tim O'Connor
 

Right. Sorry, my fault for being HO-centric.

At 10/23/2009 08:18 PM Friday, you wrote:
No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car.
Tim O'Connor
There is one here in many different paint schemes:

http://www.showcaseline.com/


Re: Missing links

Tim O'Connor
 

Yes and Westerfield makes 'em too. What I really meant was there
is no "mass production" model i.e. a shake the box style car that
sells for 10 bucks.

Tim O'Connor

InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR
sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they
doubt the market.
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.

Walt Lankenau


Re: Tangent Scale Models: NEW HO ACF 70-ton welded drop-end Gondola available now!!

Tim O'Connor
 

David

Thanks. I guess what I meant was -- is the floor loose so I can
remove it to weather it separately from the car sides?

And thanks for the G31A info -- I noticed the difference in the
staples, and the ends, after studying some photos.

Tim O'

At 10/23/2009 09:29 PM Friday, you wrote:
Tim, the floor is a separate part, yet sits at the right depth inside the body.

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


David, is the floor a separate part or is it cast with the body?

Awesome, I am extremely happy that TANGENT did this car and did
it right. Take that, TRAINMAN!

Tim O'Connor


Re: Missing links

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Walt Lankenau wrote:
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.
You're right, Walt. Thanks. I had missed that they'd done these.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Missing links

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR
sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they
doubt the market.
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.

Walt Lankenau


Re: Tangent Scale Models: NEW HO ACF 70-ton welded drop-end Gondola available now!!

bnsd45
 

Tim, the floor is a separate part, yet sits at the right depth inside the body.

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


David, is the floor a separate part or is it cast with the body?

Awesome, I am extremely happy that TANGENT did this car and did
it right. Take that, TRAINMAN!

Tim O'Connor





Tangent Scale Models is pleased to announce our entry into the Steam-Diesel transition era modeling market with our stunning 52-6 welded 70-ton drop-end gondola car as produced by ACF, the third all-new model in our HO scale product line. First produced in 1948 for Pennsylvania Railroad as class G31, PRR alone purchased 11,600 welded cars of this body style in the G31/G31A/G31B/G35, serving the "Standard Railroad of the World" in every corner of North America in many customer applications. If you model somewhere in North America, you can use a PRR model; PRR had more of these gons than some railroads had cars! Besides PRR, other railroads also purchased these gondolas from ACF, and some former PRR cars were purchased second-hand by various railroads. Most of these gondolas were phased from revenue service during the 1990s.

The Tangent Scale Models prototype replica of the ACF-produced PRR G31B has never been produced in HO scale, making it a distinctive addition to any freight car fleet. And as typical of our products, we take the time to focus on execution of all the small details. We studied the prototype to accurately reproduce it with the following:

- Thoroughly-researched colors
- Exact fonts and lettering placement
- Scale-sized side tie-downs
- See through tie down holes
- Stand-off ladders
- Wire grab irons and coupler lift bars
- See-through brake platforms
- Interior detail
- Road-specific handbrakes applied to match production specifications
- Air hoses

The Tangent Scale Models gondola rides upon our well-executed new 70-ton ASF A-3 Ride-Control truck with free-rolling metal wheels. Our ready-to-operate replica is finished with coupler lift bars accompanying Kadee® scale couplers and sufficient hidden weights to ensure the model operates as good as it looks.

The model comes ready-to-run in three highly-accurate paint schemes, including:
- Pennsylvania Railroad G31B, original 1951 scheme PRR Freight Car Red, 24 road numbers available

- Southern Pacific G-70-12, original 1953 scheme SP Freight Car Red, 12 road numbers available

- Wabash, original 1951 scheme black, 6 road numbers

As always, we also offer undecorated kits, plus ready-to-run undecorated models.

Pricing for our new RTR gondolas is $28.95 each. See http://tangentscalemodels.com/acf70tongondolareplicas.aspx for a link to the new models!

All of these are available NOW on our website at www.tangentscalemodels.com or by ordering directly from us at 828-279-6106, or via your favorite dealer.

A supply of our new replicas will be available from the Southern Pacific Historical and Technical Society meet in San Luis Obispo CA on October 28 ­ November 1. They will also be available for purchase directly from Tangent Scale Models at the Sunshine Modelers Meet in Naperville IL, on October 29 ­ 31.

That wraps up our update for today! We thank you for continuing to support the little guys in our big industry!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models
www.tangentscalemodels.com
tangentscalemodels@...


Re: PRR G31A/G31B

bnsd45
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


What is the difference between the G31A, and G31B that Tangent
has just produced? I have a good photo of a Conrail G31A so I'd
like to know if this model is appropriate (and I figure STMFC
members will know if they are different).
Tim, the primary difference is that the G31A were produced by Pullman Standard so therefore have Pullman ends. They do not have the same tie downs on the top chord as the ACF-produced car - G31A have tie downs on the body "side panels". There are some other very subtle variations in the end castings, but that is about it.

I recommend RPCyc Volume 19 for a comprehensive article on this topic. Ed Hawkins and I have been researching these cars together with a few others on this list. Coverage of the Pullman variants are included since the article's subject matter includes welded variations stemming from PRR's original G31 class.

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


Re: Missing links

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car. Not that I think they should, but it's strange no one has done it.
An awful lot of the original USRA single-sheathed cars were rebuilt by WW II, and the market for pre-war cars is less than for postwar cars. InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they doubt the market. That leaves the rebuildsk, and again there are Tichy parts which could be assembled for RTR. But here, the problem is the variety from road to road. That's why the rebuilds are good resin candidates.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Missing links

edwardloizeaux
 

No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car.
Tim O'Connor
There is one here in many different paint schemes:

http://www.showcaseline.com/


PRR G31A/G31B

Tim O'Connor
 

What is the difference between the G31A, and G31B that Tangent
has just produced? I have a good photo of a Conrail G31A so I'd
like to know if this model is appropriate (and I figure STMFC
members will know if they are different).

Tim O'Connor

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