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Re: NYC box car that went far...

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Steve,
Thank you for posting a link to an interesting photo.
Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "steve l" <stevelucas3@...> wrote:

On the CN main line in Houston, BC, summer 1950.--

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=8556284&;id=37

Steve Lucas.
Re: NYC box car that went far...

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Bruce,
Why did you feel a need to "correct" Steve? Steve didn't say it was surprising, just that it went far. In the message I read Steve didn't comment on the likelihood, frequency or possibility that a NYC box car was in British Columbia. My sense of distances has the distance between British Columbia and the nearest NYC tracks in the "far" category. All Steve said was "went far."

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

"steve l" <stevelucas3@...> 10/29/09 9:27 PM >>>
On the CN main line in Houston, BC, summer 1950.--

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=8556284&;id=37

Steve Lucas.

Steve,

Interesting photo, but I'm sorry, there is nothing surprising about
finding a NYC boxcar "far from home". Its late and I'm tired and so I'm
probably cranky, but how often do we have to say this???? Boxcars
basically operated in a national pool... OK, so this car is in Canada
and thus US car numbers would be lower, but since NYC has one of the
largest boxcar fleets in North America, there should be little surprise
that one would show up almost ANYWHERE on contiguous rails. The car is
most likely carrying a shipment from the US to BC, but that shipment
could just have easily originated in Seattle or anywhere else as
somewhere on NYC rails.

Regards
Bruce Smith
temporarily and grogily from Naperville Il
Re: Speedwitch web site

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Ed,
 
       You are not alone !  While waiting is frustrating, I've found that the wait is always worth it with Ted's products. I'm sure there are many irons in the fire and they will be announced when he is ready. 1 to 3 workers just don't produce as fast as an overseas factory with 2000 pair of hands.
 
Fred Freitas

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, ed_mines <ed_mines@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: ed_mines <ed_mines@yahoo.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Speedwitch web site
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 1:43 PM


 



Am I the only one who checks the Speedwitch web site every day for the double sheathed box car book announced several years ago?

Ed
















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Re: NYC box car that went far...

steve l <stevelucas3@...>
 

Bruce--

Disclaimer--As a working railroader, I often find myself tired and cranky, as one can get when being woken at the hotel at 2.45 am to go to work--and have to put that resin STMFC that I've been working on back into my grip. Long ago, I developed thick skin and broad shoulders. Both have proven useful and essential.

However, it's not my goal to stir up controversy on this board. But I'm not afraid to wade into it, either. Truth be known, I tripped over this photo while looking for something else. And wished to share it with the board.

All the best,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

"steve l" <stevelucas3@...> 10/29/09 9:27 PM >>>
On the CN main line in Houston, BC, summer 1950.--

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=8556284&;id=37

Steve Lucas.

Steve,

Interesting photo, but I'm sorry, there is nothing surprising about
finding a NYC boxcar "far from home". Its late and I'm tired and so I'm
probably cranky, but how often do we have to say this???? Boxcars
basically operated in a national pool... OK, so this car is in Canada
and thus US car numbers would be lower, but since NYC has one of the
largest boxcar fleets in North America, there should be little surprise
that one would show up almost ANYWHERE on contiguous rails. The car is
most likely carrying a shipment from the US to BC, but that shipment
could just have easily originated in Seattle or anywhere else as
somewhere on NYC rails.

Regards
Bruce Smith
temporarily and grogily from Naperville Il
Re: NYC box car that went far...

Bruce Smith
 

"steve l" <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca> 10/29/09 9:27 PM >>>
On the CN main line in Houston, BC, summer 1950.--

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=8556284&;id=37

Steve Lucas.

Steve,

Interesting photo, but I'm sorry, there is nothing surprising about
finding a NYC boxcar "far from home". Its late and I'm tired and so I'm
probably cranky, but how often do we have to say this???? Boxcars
basically operated in a national pool... OK, so this car is in Canada
and thus US car numbers would be lower, but since NYC has one of the
largest boxcar fleets in North America, there should be little surprise
that one would show up almost ANYWHERE on contiguous rails. The car is
most likely carrying a shipment from the US to BC, but that shipment
could just have easily originated in Seattle or anywhere else as
somewhere on NYC rails.

Regards
Bruce Smith
temporarily and grogily from Naperville Il
NYC box car that went far...

steve l <stevelucas3@...>
 

On the CN main line in Houston, BC, summer 1950.--

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=8556284&;id=37

Steve Lucas.
[CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

PBowers
 

I never noticed this being mentioned on this list but True Line Trains has announced the release of at least two versions of the Canadian overhead eight hatch steel refrigerator cars. The CN cars will have the regular reefer doors and the CP cars will have plug doors. There is no indication yet if they will do the CP regular door or CN plug door versions. Pacific Great Eastern BC Railway and Grand Trunk Western versions are also in the cars to be released.

Peter Bowers

The following from Canadian Freight Car group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDN-frt-cars-n-ops/>; by Darren at TLT:

So.... here is the scoop people....

I was hoping to get the samples here for the iHobby show to release
the same time as the ad was printed... which, of course, didn't happen.

We're very excited about this. A few things to note about the car:

1 - really detailed, I mean, really.

2 - version correct doors (thats PLUG and HINGED for those out there
who are where I was a few months ago)

3 - version correct brake wheels/housing. Yeah, you heard right.
UNIVERSAL or AJAX will come on your RTR kit. Want to do the rebuild?
We are offering the brake wheel kits seperately.

4 - brand spankin' new charcoal heater. This was a pain in the butt
to get right because they are so hard to come by. Don't worry - we
got you covered.

5 - photo-etch walkway (or wooden walkway depending on version)

6 - photo-etch brake platform

7 - TLT TRU-MATE couplers, if you don't like them, you can try the
Rapido ones, they are much better....

8 - TLT metal wheels and detailed trucks

9 - real chain (as on the brake chain)

10 - version correct (CN and CP) hatches

11 - drip tubes...yeah, I think I found the only photo where they
weren't ripped off....but...I did them!

12 - version correct liquidomoter (single and double)

13 - Due out in spring 2010

14 - CN, CP and PGE/BCOL assortments.

15 - GTW versions as well

16 - Some people on the group saw the drawings, and their feedback
has been very positive.

I am hoping to get rapid prototype samples here mid November in time
for the Toronto Christmas train show, so modellers can get an idea of
what they will look like.

Cheers,
Darren






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Re: Bituminous mystery car

PBowers
 

Further to my previous post, can anyone identify what type of car this tank came from?

Peter

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, PBowers <4everwaiting@...> wrote:

There is an old tank from a tank car at an abandoned plant in Owen
Sound, ON Canada. Originally there were two but one was scrapped
many years ago.

These cars in their last use was use to store bituminous (tar) by a
local contractor. In the last years their has been lettering
starting to appear though the silver paint and tar. While no number
or id has appeared it appears that part of the wording on the left
hand side includes "Bituminous." It looks like the same lettering is
under the first so it is likely the lettering is from the days when
it was in revenue service.

So my question is, does any one know of a company that lettered their
cars with bituminous on the left hand side. Writing is more of a
written italic like style although letters appear as individual letters.

http://www.uer.ca/locations/show.asp?locid=22114 and
http://www.uer.ca/locations/viewgal.asp?picid=74497 show the tank car location.

Peter Bowers



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We can custom produce your EJ&E box car decals?

Bob McCarthy
 

Elden,
 
     We can custom produce any decal required in any scale if there is a sharp image and a known dimension of the car or locomotive.
 
     You will receive a quote on a minimum order that consists of art cost for creating the decal artwork.  Then you will be provided the each price for one car which is based on a minimum of one 8 1/2" x 11" sheet.  The price of the sheet would be divided by the number of copies of the decal in question that can be placed upon the sheet.
 
    Please send an email attachement of your desired decal to thesupplycar@yahoo.com
for quote.  Given you mention various color combinations, please provide a well registered color image of each version that you want.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy
THE SUPPLY CAR, LLC
thesupplycar@yahoo.com
803-429-1811  1000-2000 Hrs EST Daily

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:


From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
Subject: [STMFC] RE: EJ&E box car decals?
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com, bbfcl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 5:12 PM


 




All;

Does anyone out there know of a source for the EJ&E "Billboard" box car -
orange over green, green over orange, all green with orange lettering or all
orange with green lettering, in HO? I have a Sunshine mini-kit that I
desperately would like to do in a post-54 paint scheme...

Also, I understand the earliest green box cars on the EJ&E happened right
after delivery of their Baldwin DT 6-6-20 center cab diesels, which was in
what year? And is this a true statement?

Thanks all,

Elden Gatwood


















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Speedwitch web site

ed_mines
 

Am I the only one who checks the Speedwitch web site every day for the double sheathed box car book announced several years ago?

Ed
Re: EJ&E box car decals?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

All;

Does anyone out there know of a source for the EJ&E "Billboard" box car -
orange over green, green over orange, all green with orange lettering or all
orange with green lettering, in HO? I have a Sunshine mini-kit that I
desperately would like to do in a post-54 paint scheme...

Also, I understand the earliest green box cars on the EJ&E happened right
after delivery of their Baldwin DT 6-6-20 center cab diesels, which was in
what year? And is this a true statement?

Thanks all,

Elden Gatwood
Re: decals needed

tmolsen@...
 

Re: Government Equipment Trust

Al Campbell
 

AL: Thanks for the suggestion, however the writing on these entries is reasonably clear. I do know that some of the writing can be a bear to decipher. I have also found some Grand Trunk in the listings and they look different. Al Campbell

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote:

Hmm ... how clear is the "E"? I mean, any chance the cars belong to the Grand Trunk?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy_tech" <madchemep2@> wrote:

Hello: In going through a B&M freight conductors wheel report dated Jun 1920, I ran into a reporting mark GET. I know that represents an unassigned USRA owned freight car. In this case I found two of them, both boxcars in the same train. The first was GET 2139 carrying boxes. The other was GET 21100 and it was carrying ice. I didn't think GET cars would show up in revenue service. Could anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Al Campbell
Re: Government Equipment Trust

Al Campbell
 

Richard: Thank you. That makes sense. I will probably have more questions before this is over. The oldest ORER I have is 1926. Al Campbell

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:13 AM, epoxy_tech wrote:

Hello: In going through a B&M freight conductors wheel report dated
Jun 1920, I ran into a reporting mark GET. I know that represents
an unassigned USRA owned freight car. In this case I found two of
them, both boxcars in the same train. The first was GET 2139
carrying boxes. The other was GET 21100 and it was carrying ice. I
didn't think GET cars would show up in revenue service. Could
anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Al Campbell
Cars purchased for the USRA under the Government Equipment Trust went
to a number of different railroads in 1920 and were delivered in GET
markings, which survived until the railroads that accepted them
repainted and restenciled the cars. A mid-1920 ORER would probably
show the new ownership of the GET cars.

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: Update on PrototypeRails 2010

Schuyler Larrabee
 

It is an Microsoft Office 2007 Word document (note the ending "x" on the file extension). Office
2007 designed for
Vista, is not backwards compatible. you either need to acquire a third party translator or have
Word 2007 to open and
read the document.

Rich Orr
BTW, I run this Office 07 version under XP.

I think XP was a tower on the ERIE in Steam days, which controlled the movement of steam freight
cars.


No? I'm surprised!

SGL






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Re: Update on PrototypeRails 2010

Schuyler Larrabee
 

OK I have (whimper) Office 2007 (what a terrible devolution of a already flawed program!!) and it
did not open for me, so it's not just the Office 07 issue that is going on here.

SGL


Can't open the document, Mike. You posted a Word 2007 formatted document which is not backward
compatible with
early versions of Word. Anyone who has not shelled out the money for an upgrade to Office 2007
won't be able to read
this.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brock <brockm@brevard.net <mailto:brockm%40brevard.net> >
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 10:19 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Update on PrototypeRails 2010

I have placed the latest flyer including an update on the list of clinicians
that will perform at Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach next Jan.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/PR2010FlyerWDOct14.docx
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/PR2010FlyerWDOct14.docx>;

Mike Brock




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OT: Re: Update on PrototypeRails 2010

Allen Rueter
 

openoffice 3.0 will open .docx and it's free.

I guess you could say Micro$oft is like the Pennsy, they think their the standard.
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO




________________________________
From: "SUVCWORR@aol.com" <SUVCWORR@aol.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 6:48:14 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Update on PrototypeRails 2010





Can't open the document, Mike. You posted a Word 2007 formatted document which is not backward compatible with early versions of Word. Anyone who has not shelled out the money for an upgrade to Office 2007 won't be able to read this.

Rich Orr
Re: Government Equipment Trust

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:13 AM, epoxy_tech wrote:

Hello: In going through a B&M freight conductors wheel report dated
Jun 1920, I ran into a reporting mark GET. I know that represents
an unassigned USRA owned freight car. In this case I found two of
them, both boxcars in the same train. The first was GET 2139
carrying boxes. The other was GET 21100 and it was carrying ice. I
didn't think GET cars would show up in revenue service. Could
anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Al Campbell
Cars purchased for the USRA under the Government Equipment Trust went
to a number of different railroads in 1920 and were delivered in GET
markings, which survived until the railroads that accepted them
repainted and restenciled the cars. A mid-1920 ORER would probably
show the new ownership of the GET cars.

Richard Hendrickson
Re: Government Equipment Trust

al_brown03
 

Hmm ... how clear is the "E"? I mean, any chance the cars belong to the Grand Trunk?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy_tech" <madchemep2@...> wrote:

Hello: In going through a B&M freight conductors wheel report dated Jun 1920, I ran into a reporting mark GET. I know that represents an unassigned USRA owned freight car. In this case I found two of them, both boxcars in the same train. The first was GET 2139 carrying boxes. The other was GET 21100 and it was carrying ice. I didn't think GET cars would show up in revenue service. Could anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Al Campbell
Government Equipment Trust

Al Campbell
 

Hello: In going through a B&M freight conductors wheel report dated Jun 1920, I ran into a reporting mark GET. I know that represents an unassigned USRA owned freight car. In this case I found two of them, both boxcars in the same train. The first was GET 2139 carrying boxes. The other was GET 21100 and it was carrying ice. I didn't think GET cars would show up in revenue service. Could anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Al Campbell
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