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Re: Missing links
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Armand Premo wrote:
Folks,Isn't it about time that we submit a list of those cars needed, but missing.I assume, Armand, that you meant "create," not "submit" (unless you're in touch with a Higher Authority in the hobby than i know about). Here's what I'd say: 1. The GSC cast steel depressed center flat car, and maybe the 4- truck "flat" flat car. 2. The 46-foot GS gondola used in the West, either the very early D&RGW style or the later Enterprise cars of both D&RGW and WP (and others--Richard has a list). The former are practically signature cars of the Rio Grande (back in the era of this list, the railroad used to run ads helping you with pronunciation: "Say Rye-o Grand," evidently avoiding any hint that the line had Hispanic roots <g>). 3. I make it no. 3 only out of humility: the Harriman flat car with straight side sills, either the 40-foot or 50-foot version (if we had forties, we could kitbash the fifty-footers). 4. There is some kinda hopper car that people argue about all the time, about which I know little and can't use anyway, but from all the flames and smoke it must be needed by SOMEONE. <vbg> Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Grain rush - thanks!
Wendye Ware
Thanks to everyone who contributed to answering my question about "When is the grain rush"? My understanding from the various answers is that the grain rush is a local, or at most regional, activity, in which grain is transported from the farmer to the grain elevator. Therefore, there is little chance of spotting a grain rush on a transcontinental mainline such as the Union Pacific across Wyoming. I assume this would be true of other transcons in rural, non-grain producing, areas such as the ATSF across Arizona or the NP across the Rockies. I infer also, that the grain rush is primarily found on branch lines: To the extent that the cars of grain are on the mainline, that is because the mainline is the best (or only) route available.
Thanks again. Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Aley, Jeff A wrote:
Somebody please telephone Tony Thompson and tell him that his email has been hijacked by a WM fan.It would be hard to live any length of time in PIttsburgh, so close to WM country, and not be enchanted by that wonderful little railroad. 'Nuff said. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Missing links
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
The usual reason for Sunshine to drop a kit is that demand has dropped off
and they've run out of something, decals for example, that have a minimum reorder quantity way beyond expected sales. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car
Aley, Jeff A
Somebody please telephone Tony Thompson and tell him that his email has been hijacked by a WM fan.
Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:42 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car I'm waiting to see if they do the Duryea and thereby the Western Maryland car. Fireballs rule! Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com<mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com>
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Re: Missing links
Armand Premo
Rich, initially I was thinking solely in terms of numbers of cars.Your question expands the parameters..Armand Premo
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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Missing links Armand, By common do you mean owned by a large number of roads or existed in large quantities?. They are not necessarily one and the same. Rich Orr
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From: Armand Premo <armprem2@surfglobal.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 2:54 pm Subject: [STMFC] Missing links Folks,Isn't it about time that we submit a list of those cars needed,but missing.There will likely be geographical differences,but let's see if there are any common cars that have yet to see the light of day.Armand Premo ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2444 - Release Date: 10/18/09 09:04:00
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car
I've reviewed the Erie car for the ELHS diamond, it should appear in a future issue. I discussed all the model, prototype and what I planned to do to improve the model.
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I had some help from Ed Hawkins with respect to the original car drawings from the ACF files. Brian Carlson
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From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@signaturepress.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:42 PM I'm waiting to see if they do the Duryea and thereby the Western Maryland car. Fireballs rule! Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress. com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturep ress.com Publishers of books on railroad history [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Missing links
SUVCWORR@...
Armand,
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By common do you mean owned by a large number of roads or existed in large quantities?. They are not necessarily one and the same. Rich Orr
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From: Armand Premo <armprem2@surfglobal.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 2:54 pm Subject: [STMFC] Missing links Folks,Isn't it about time that we submit a list of those cars needed,but missing.There will likely be geographical differences,but let's see if there are any common cars that have yet to see the light of day.Armand Premo ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Missing links
On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Armand Premo wrote:
Folks,Isn't it about time that we submit a list of those cars needed,but PRR K8 stock car ;^) Another lister and I vociferously vouched for the PRR K7A stock car a number of years ago, only to be told by several esteemed members of this list that the potential of a K7A in plastic was, um, unlikely at best (to politely paraphrase). Since I'm tickled pink with my gaggle of BLI K7As, I'm hoping for a similar reaction to this suggestion <VBG>! Seriously though, a K8 in resin would almost certainly sell well, and if no-one else gets to it, I might just get those masters built myself (the drawings arrived a few weeks ago). Plastic: GATC tank car UTL tank car alt std offset 50T hopper 1922, 1927 FGE wood reefers (not the post WWII rebuilt from IM) NYC "USRA" steel box (promised from Sun Models, no sign of actual models) PRR H21A hoppers (correctly done, with sep grabs) PRR X31 series box cars (correctly done, 21 century details) Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2 "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield." __ / \ __<+--+>________________\__/___ ________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0
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Re: Missing links
gn3397 <heninger@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Armand Premo" <armprem2@...> wrote:
The nice thing about lists like this is that "common" cars are harder to add, since we have many prototypes now represented in model form. However, I would submit the following list for consideration: 1) Extended height (9'3" IH or thereabouts) boxcars based on the 1923 ARA design, such as the NYC cars, Reading XMu (or is XMg?) and the PRR X28 and X28a, which we used to have. Anyone know why Sunshine discontinued this kit? 2) The AAR alternate standard twin hopper. 3) The ARA 1929 quad hopper. 4) More GS gondolas would be nice for those of us modeling Western railroads. Sincerely, Bob Heninger Iowa City, IA
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I'm waiting to see if they do the Duryea and thereby the Western Maryland car. Fireballs rule!
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version
Steve SANDIFER
I would like to see a better photo of the ends. They don't look so great to me. I made an Erie Express Box a number of years ago and had to scratchbuild these ends, and I think mine look much close to the original.
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From: john66h To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Don Burn" <burn@...> wrote: > > >no photos of these unfortunately. eBay to the rescue! http://cgi.ebay.com/Atlas-20000324-HO-1932-ARA-Boxcar-ERIE-76944-1932_W0QQitemZ390108546982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains or http://tinyurl.com/yzs7q62 -John Hile
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Missing links
Armand Premo
Folks,Isn't it about time that we submit a list of those cars needed,but missing.There will likely be geographical differences,but let's see if there are any common cars that have yet to see the light of day.Armand Premo
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version
John Hile
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Don Burn" <burn@...> wrote:
eBay to the rescue! http://cgi.ebay.com/Atlas-20000324-HO-1932-ARA-Boxcar-ERIE-76944-1932_W0QQitemZ390108546982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains or http://tinyurl.com/yzs7q62 -John Hile
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Re: Decal artwork (Was: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness)
William Keene <wakeene@...>
Tony,
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I will gladly accept the "old f__ts" title with honor. Sure beats the alternative. BTW... After using ink and ruling pens I graduated up the technology scale to dry transfer lettering for decal masters. Cheers, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Anthony Thompson wrote:
Jerry Glow wrote:Illustrator and CorelDraw are closer to CAD than Photoshop as theAbsolutely right, Jerry, but not necessarily relevant. What
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Re: Decal artwork (Was: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness)
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Jerry Glow wrote:
Illustrator and CorelDraw are closer to CAD than Photoshop as the first three are all vector and the latter bitmapped.Absolutely right, Jerry, but not necessarily relevant. What counts is whether the final decals are sharp. Some of the old f__ts on this list can probably remember when it was done oversize with India ink. And I'm pretty sure that ain't a vector application. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Decal artwork (Was: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness)
jerryglow2
Illustrator and CorelDraw are closer to CAD than Photoshop as the first three are all vector and the latter bitmapped.
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Jerry Glow
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:
I think it depends on what you have to start with and what you want to end
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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version
pennsylvania1954
Prototype photos:
Builder's photo of the side: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie76949b.jpg Builder's photo of the Buckeye end: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie76949adb.jpg In service in 1954. The car on the left, ERIE 76686: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie76949adb.jpg Here is a photo of an Intermountain model with a Viking roof: http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/html/41071.htm Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL
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Re: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness
thomas christensen
Try Westerfield #3865 DSS&A USRA box car.
Tom Christensen What I'd love to build is the "Route Superior Gateway for Superior Service" version of the car but I've never been able to find decals. Tim O'Connor Recent Activity 2 New Members 2 New PhotosVisit Your Group Yahoo! News Odd News You won't believe it, but it's true Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. Yahoo! Groups Cat Group Join a group for people who love cats .. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: New HO and N Scale Airslide Hopper Decals
Daniel Kohlberg
I try, Tim. I try...
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The NKP cars ary very interesting, since they had a large fleet. Most are actually paint outs of the formerly leased GACX cars: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp501bkg.jpg Except for the final order in 1962: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp685.jpg Dan Kohlberg
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