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Re: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness

thomas christensen
 

Try Westerfield #3865 DSS&A USRA box car.
Tom Christensen


 





What I'd love to build is the "Route Superior Gateway for Superior Service"
version of the car but I've never been able to find decals.

Tim O'Connor



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Re: New HO and N Scale Airslide Hopper Decals

Daniel Kohlberg
 

I try, Tim. I try...

The NKP cars ary very interesting, since they had a large fleet. Most are actually paint outs of the formerly leased GACX cars:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp501bkg.jpg

Except for the final order in 1962:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp685.jpg

Dan Kohlberg

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Sent: Oct 21, 2009 12:03 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New HO and N Scale Airslide Hopper Decals

Dan

Oh sure, NOW you do them, after I already lettered my NKP
car with CDS set #295... Now I guess I'll have to compare that
one with your information. :-)

See you at Naperville!
Tim O'Connor


At 10/20/2009 10:25 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
I am pleased to announce the following new decal sets. All are available
right now, in HO and N Scale.

NW-03 Norfolk & Western GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1961+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw03.htm

NW-04 Nickel Plate Road GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1954+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw04.htm

NW-05 Wabash GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1955+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw05.htm

Please take a few minutes and browse the above links. Each of the sets
letter 3 cars in various schemes for each railroad. These decal sets are
the result of exhaustive research and feature extensive data, including
proper and accurate GATC stencil styles.

As always, thanks for your support. My entire line of decals, including my
recent Illinois Central GATC 2600 Airslide set, can be found at:
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/

For those of you attending the Sunshine Meet in Naperville, IL 10/29 thru
11/1, I will be there with my new decals. Please stop by and introduce
yourself.

Dan Kohlberg
paducah@mindspring.com


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

I believe a picture is the Erie (1947 or 1932).

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version

Don Burn
 

Walt,

Look at http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/ho1932boxcar1.htm no photos of these unfortunately. They also have them for N-scale.

Don Burn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter" <mcindoefalls@yahoo.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version




--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "pennsylvania1954" <stevehprr@...> wrote:

Looking on the Atlas site I found painted r-t-r versions, too. Atlas lists Syle #1 and Style #2 that have been out awhile; now Style #4. Makes me wonder about unlisted Style #3.....
Didn't have any luck finding this on the Atlas site. A link would be helpful. Thanks!

Walt Lankenau




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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "pennsylvania1954" <stevehprr@...> wrote:

Looking on the Atlas site I found painted r-t-r versions, too. Atlas lists Syle #1 and Style #2 that have been out awhile; now Style #4. Makes me wonder about unlisted Style #3.....
Didn't have any luck finding this on the Atlas site. A link would be helpful. Thanks!

Walt Lankenau


Decal artwork (Was: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness)

Jack Burgess
 

Jerry wrote:
Although possible in Photoshop, I would hesitate to do so. I use
CorelDraw which is a vector based program as do various decal
manufacturers I have dealt with and/or do artwork for. I did one
just yesterday for a C&NW war emergency boxcar as I'm not happy
with the shade of paint on the Intermountain one.

Jerry Glow
I think it depends on what you have to start with and what you want to end
up with. Forty years ago, I hand drafted artwork to make dry transfers for
all of the YV equipment I might build (although my information sources were
much less then) and have since scanned that artwork and manipulated it in
Photoshop to provide artwork for decals. I have also developed HO scale
decals from photo scans. OTOH, I have also used CAD to make full-size YV
stencils (1:1) for several still-existing pieces of YV equipment using
photos as the basis. These CAD drawings were also used to produce HO (and O
scale) decals. I think it all depends on what you have to work with and your
skill with the available programs. In my case, I know CAD and Photoshop much
better than Illustrator...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness

jerryglow2
 

Although possible in Photoshop, I would hesitate to do so. I use CorelDraw which is a vector based program as do various decal manufacturers I have delt with and/or do artwork for. I did one just yesterday for a C&NW war emergency boxcar as I'm not happy with the shade of paint on the Intermountain one.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Tim O'Connor wrote:
LOL. Yeah right. I've got my eye open for Champ HB-178 which has
this lettering.
If you have a good proto photo, it's not that hard in Photoshop
to create artwork for decals. I've been working on some for west coast
oil company tank cars; already did some for SP tank cars. Ted Culotta
did a clinic on this a couple of years ago, at Naperville and elsewhere.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


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Ambroid Vinegar Car Plans

rdietrichson
 

Good morning all,
Does anyone out there have the plan sheet for the Ambroid vinegar car that could send it to me. I recently acquired the kit, but alas there is no plan sheet.
Thank you,
Rick Dietrichson
Wilmington, NC
Rdietrichson@ec.rr.com


Re: New HO and N Scale Airslide Hopper Decals

Tim O'Connor
 

Dan

Oh sure, NOW you do them, after I already lettered my NKP
car with CDS set #295... Now I guess I'll have to compare that
one with your information. :-)

See you at Naperville!
Tim O'Connor

At 10/20/2009 10:25 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
I am pleased to announce the following new decal sets. All are available
right now, in HO and N Scale.

NW-03 Norfolk & Western GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1961+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw03.htm

NW-04 Nickel Plate Road GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1954+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw04.htm

NW-05 Wabash GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1955+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw05.htm

Please take a few minutes and browse the above links. Each of the sets
letter 3 cars in various schemes for each railroad. These decal sets are
the result of exhaustive research and feature extensive data, including
proper and accurate GATC stencil styles.

As always, thanks for your support. My entire line of decals, including my
recent Illinois Central GATC 2600 Airslide set, can be found at:
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/

For those of you attending the Sunshine Meet in Naperville, IL 10/29 thru
11/1, I will be there with my new decals. Please stop by and introduce
yourself.

Dan Kohlberg
paducah@mindspring.com


Atlas 1932 ARA Box Car--Another Version

pennsylvania1954
 

I admit I never saw this one announced. Buckeye ends, Viking corrugated roof. I picked up an undec from my LHS today. Looking on the Atlas site I found painted r-t-r versions, too. Atlas lists Syle #1 and Style #2 that have been out awhile; now Style #4. Makes me wonder about unlisted Style #3.....

I see the need for some upgrades, but this is a great start. Thank you Atlas.

Steve Hoxie
Pernsacola FL


Re: OT new group for suggestions to manufactures

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

This might be useful for suggestions on what models to produce next. This is copied from the HO yard sale group and I have nothing to do with it. It may or may not be helpful for new models.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


To this end I have created the HO Model Manufacturer Advisory Group.
This may not be of interest to all the members here, but I thought you
should be made aware of it. I will run it as I run HOYS (for better or
worse!) with all posts moderated, no threads or long discussions, just
focused posts with specific information. In fact, the first poll is
already open.
This new group is for one thing only: identifying for manufacturers
which models they should be producing.
HOMMAG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
mailto:HOMMAG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


New HO and N Scale Airslide Hopper Decals

Daniel Kohlberg
 

I am pleased to announce the following new decal sets. All are available right now, in HO and N Scale.

NW-03 Norfolk & Western GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1961+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw03.htm

NW-04 Nickel Plate Road GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1954+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw04.htm

NW-05 Wabash GATC 2600 Airslide Hoppers 1955+
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/nw05.htm

Please take a few minutes and browse the above links. Each of the sets letter 3 cars in various schemes for each railroad. These decal sets are the result of exhaustive research and feature extensive data, including proper and accurate GATC stencil styles.

As always, thanks for your support. My entire line of decals, including my recent Illinois Central GATC 2600 Airslide set, can be found at:
http://paducah.home.mindspring.com/

For those of you attending the Sunshine Meet in Naperville, IL 10/29 thru 11/1, I will be there with my new decals. Please stop by and introduce yourself.

Dan Kohlberg
paducah@mindspring.com


Re: GSC depressed center flat (was heavy duty flat was Athearn Blue Box kits discontinued)

Tim O'Connor
 

The 125 ton GSC depressed center flats are not common, but I
have seen them many times railfanning, and many railroads owned
them. They generally travel in ordinary freight trains (unlike the
Schnabel cars, for example) and I think they would make for an
interesting and successful model if done well.

I have two of the E&P brass cars, but neither one is an exact
match for the SP cars, so I'd love to see a model I could build
as an SP car.

Tim O'Connor

Good point, Steve. Whoever does it would sell a ton. Modelers
love rare, unusual or just plain weird cars.

Tony Thompson


Re: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness

David Sieber
 

Tim,
While Champ's HB-178 has been out-of-production for years, there may be another way to get one direct from Champ. On the back of the invoice for my recent Champ order, they are now advertising:
"Champ Re-prints - Previous Champ sets reprinted via the Alps Printer. A great way to get those decal sets that have disappeared over the years. Call for prices. Sorry, not available thru dealers or wholesalers. Retail-Direct only!" [Phone 701-852-4938]
I haven't tried this yet, since I'm still awaiting replies from several folks about my OOP decal wish list, but it sounds promising. Anyone on this list tried these "Re-prints"?
Dave Sieber
Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Tony

LOL. Yeah right. I've got my eye open for Champ HB-178 which
has this lettering.

Tim O'Connor
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/models/oconnor/dssa17065main.html

What I'd love to build is the "Route Superior Gateway for Superior
Service" version of the car but I've never been able to find decals.


Re: heavy duty flat was Athearn Blue Box kits discontinued

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Hile wrote:
Under the heading of what the country needs is a good 5 cent cigar (or heavy duty flat car):

I wonder why no one has offered the GSC cast steel depressed center car that a bunch of railroads seemed to have one of? (Making it ideal for many model railroaders.)
Good point, Steve. Whoever does it would sell a ton. Modelers love rare, unusual or just plain weird cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: heavy duty flat was Athearn Blue Box kits discontinued

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Under the heading of what the country needs is a good 5 cent cigar (or heavy duty flat car):

I wonder why no one has offered the GSC cast steel depressed center car that a bunch of railroads seemed to have one of? (Making it ideal for many model railroaders.)

Plans and photos of a GM&O example were in MM, 10-86. I kitbashed a Rock Island version a few years ago from the Bachmann car, the center portion is the correct length, but it needs new end platforms, trucks, etc. Considering the way that Tichy, for example cast the frame for the straight GSC flat, you would think that the depressed center could be done in a similar way.

Steve Hile

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Thompson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: heavy duty flat was Athearn Blue Box kits discontinued


Tim O'Connor wrote:
> I'm not sure what your point was Tony. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I
> don't think the Athearn deck is accurate for any GSC cast steel flat
> car, but it may be accurate for one of the riveted cars that were
> similar in overall design. As I said, the PRR deck appears to be
> (smooth, rivetless, welded) perforated steel plate.

I did understand your point, and I would agree about the
Athearn deck--amusing since the sides of the Athearn car are NOT
riveted. But whether any railroad put a riveted deck onto a GSC
casting, I don't really know. The SP heavy-duty GSC cars received
slotted decks like you describe, and that's certainly the most logical
application. I guess I wanted to emphasize that an after-market deck
for GSC cars might have to be railroad-specific.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: J&L 20K tank cars...later in life

Rod Miller
 

In addition to the one imported by CB, Lobaugh offered
the car in kit form, and Sunset/3rd Rail recently imported
them in J&L and one or two other (likely bogus) schemes.

Rod

oscale48@comcast.net wrote:

Hi Matt,
Custom brass imported the model several years ago in "O" Scale I wasn't
aware of one being done by Overland.
Rich Yoder ----- Original Message ----- From: "mforsyth127"
<mforsyth127@yahoo.com> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October
20, 2009 6:54:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [STMFC] Re:
J&L 20K tank cars...later in life
Listers,
Was curious if anyone could provide any insight into the later
disposition of the 20K gallon Jones and Laughlin tank cars.
As we all know, they spent nearly all their lives in captive service
when owned by J&L, hauling coal tar.
In a recent conversation, the idea was pitched that some of them
"escaped" (were sold off by J&L) and one or more wound up in coal tar
service, assigned to Barrett (a Division of Allied Chemical and Dye Co.)
In the past, Overland has imported the J&L car and also offered it
decorated for Barrett.
Can anyone provide any insight into whether or not any of these cars
were ever owned by Barret?
Thanks in advance,
Matt Forsyth
Modeling the D&H Penn Division/ Erie Jefferson Division in "O" Scale Fall of 1951
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Re: J&L 20K tank cars...later in life

mforsyth127
 

Rich,

Thanks for the insight, might of been in HO?? Didn't Mann also do it in "O"?

Regardless of scale, still looking to find out if any of those cars ran for Barrett, hauling the same comodity.

MF

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, oscale48@... wrote:



Hi Matt,

   Custom brass imported the model several years ago in "O" Scale I wasn't  aware of one being done by Overland.

Rich Yoder
----- Original Message -----
From: "mforsyth127" <mforsyth127@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:54:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] Re: J&L 20K tank cars...later in life

Listers,

Was curious if anyone could provide any insight into the later disposition of the 20K gallon Jones and Laughlin tank cars.

As we all know, they spent nearly all their lives in captive service when owned by J&L, hauling coal tar.

In a recent conversation, the idea was pitched that some of them "escaped" (were sold off by J&L) and one or more wound up in coal tar service, assigned to Barrett (a Division of Allied Chemical and Dye Co.)  

In the past, Overland has imported the J&L car and also offered it decorated for Barrett.

Can anyone provide any insight into whether or not any of these cars were ever owned by Barret?

Thanks in advance,


Matt Forsyth

Modeling the D&H Penn Division/
Erie Jefferson Division in "O" Scale
Fall of 1951



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Re: Athearn Blue Box kit usefulness

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bill Schneider wrote:
True enough Tony, but far better results can be gained by using Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw . . .
True enough, BIll, and I've done the same. One trick I learned from John Signor is to clean up and square up the art in Photoshop, very easy activities with the powerful tools in that app, and then import the file into Illustrator. End result is of course about the same, but it seems an easier process to me.
Alternative is to scan the photo at 2400 dpi or so as a bitmap. A cleaned-up bitmap image can be entirely suitable for HO scale originals too. I've done that in one case myself. There is no problem with fuzz or jaggies at that resolution.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

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