You could post it to the plasticfreightcarbuilders group. They’ve been pretty quiet lately, except for the slap on the wrist I got for posting a coach-baggage combine moments ago. It is a NKP Car Co. hybrid brass-resin-plastic (mostly plastic) kit with brass sides, so I went with plastic because there was more plastic than resin. It raised the question, is a combine a freight car since it carries the markers on mixed FREIGHT trains and carries baggage and express packages? I’m curious what the sages in this group will opine.
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [ mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068
 
In an effort to add more color to my fleet I have revised a P2K flat car from black to the UP.  I have liked this car since I saw Bob Smaus version in MR a few years ago.  Then Ted's vol IV of Prototype Railroad Modeling highlighted these cars so off I went.  I modeled this as a 1951 repaint so no white lettering and used Ted's excellent decals.
This is my first use of the new Kadee flat car brake wheel and stem.  It is excellent and I highly recommend it.
I didn't put this on the resin builder site as it is a plastic car. Not sure where it goes, so here I am

Bob Webber

In an effort to add more color to my fleet I have revised a P2K flat car from black to the UP.  I have liked this car since I saw Bob Smaus version in MR a few years ago.  Then Ted's vol IV of Prototype Railroad Modeling highlighted these cars so off I went.  I modeled this as a 1951 repaint so no white lettering and used Ted's excellent decals.

MVC?  What does that mean?  Built ’52?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] BAR 7000-series reefers

 

BAR 7123

On 4/9/2020 11:40 PM, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:

Gents,
Does anyone on the list have a color photo of a BAR 7000-series 40' steel refrigerator car in the as-built orange scheme from 1951-53 (two batches)? I am curious what color the ends and sills were painted. I checked the message archives and only see discussion of the red/white/blue scheme.  Henderson mentions a solid orange scheme on Page 23 of Classic Freight Cars Vol 3 as being the original, but this image suggests that they had dark ends, roofs, and sills:  BAR 7015 - Bangor Daily News March 1953

Thank you,
Andy Laurent

On Apr 9, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Is anyone making inverse ends, specifically inverse dreadnaught and/or inverse Hutchins ends?

 

There are a few cars that I have long wanted to model that require such ends, but AFAIK they have not been made.  But with the small shops that make resin parts, I may have missed them.

 

Thanks for any help on this.

 

Schuyler

 

 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Not the recreational boat houses.  I meant the arrangement directly across the river, with the rectangular part in the middle, and long dividers parallel to the flow of the river. Are those to retain log rafts?

 

BTW, which way is the river flowing, L to R, or R to L?

It's not a river - it's a tidal basin. The first two images are file photos from an April 2017 article in the Tacoma News Tribune regarding cleanup of the Hooker site. The third photo is a panorama made from three shots I took in June 1961 the day I was discharged from the USAF. I'm not sure where I was standing (Point Defiance??) but the following shots were of a stuffed and mounted NP 4-6-0. Can't tell you how the panorama relates geographically to the Hooker site, but it does show the heavy industrialization of the Tacoma waterfront as well as numerous log rafts.

Tom Madden

Regarding the opposite river bank. I think that those are winter moorings for power boats. They drive in and are individually lifted out of the water for winter storage in their own garage. I am guessing that to leave them in the water might result in ice damage to the hulls.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Apr 10, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io

<schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Well, my first thought about this spectacular photo was "Wow, a snap-track layout!" Well, not quite, the radii are larger than even 22", but I also would like to know what is that arrangement on the opposite side of the river all about?

Schuyler

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:27 AM
To: bbfcl@groups.io; mfcl@groups.io; RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma


Jeff Helm pointed out this SPECTACULAR industrial photo from the 1960's but the Hooker Chemical plant here was built in the 1940's and lasted through the 1990's (at least that long) so I thought it is worth sharing around. If my stupid mail program truncates the long URL you'll have to paste it back together to see it in your browser. :-\:-)

cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=p17061coll21&CISOPTR=32743&action=2&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=2848&DMHEIGHT=2210

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On 4/8/2020 3:05 PM, Jeff Helm wrote:
Found the online photos, at the Tacoma Public Library digital collections. Some interesting links:
First two are the caustic tank car.

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/32346/rec/81
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/32704/rec/92
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/5536/rec/22
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/16060/rec/44
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/32743/rec/75
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/31462/rec/50
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061col
l21/id/13399/rec/49

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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Gents,
Does anyone on the list have a color photo of a BAR 7000-series 40' steel refrigerator car in the as-built orange scheme from 1951-53 (two batches)? I am curious what color the ends and sills were painted. I checked the message archives and only see discussion of the red/white/blue scheme.  Henderson mentions a solid orange scheme on Page 23 of Classic Freight Cars Vol 3 as being the original, but this image suggests that they had dark ends, roofs, and sills:  BAR 7015 - Bangor Daily News March 1953

Thank you,
Andy Laurent

I don’t think the Red Caboose Mather reefers have been produced for almost a decade. 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:

   I was about to point out that Morrell used a LOT of Mather meat reefers and Red Caboose has offered one for some

years that seems to match many photos fairly well. BUT these are 36 ft. reefers. Didn't Morrell also use some 40 ft.

Mather cars as well? I've got a foot of file cabinet space o this stuff gong back 20 years as Doug Harding is aware. Need 

to find some time to dig into it. Incidentally the meat packers that were most helpful in offereing info on tier rail operations

and equipment in that period were Hormel and Oscar Mayer, othof which were quite helpful.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Hi Nelson,

Your are correct in that that one plant could not produce 50 loads in
one day. Keep in mind the Milwaukee, RI, and Wabash also got a few
loads of meat in Ottumwa. Off course the plant also produced tank cars
of tallow and cars of hides. And then I am certain the train was
filled with other priority cars going eastbound.

As I understand the packing industry Monday was a slow shipping day,
and then at the end of the week Friday and Saturday the output increased.

I also have a shortage of Morrell reefers, in my case out of Sioux Falls.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120