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Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Larry Kline
 

I just posted 2 files in the file section in a folder called PMcK&Y-
P&LE reblt USRA boxcars.

1) The NYC diagram book pages for these cars, dated 12-31-1938, which
shows them all as marked for the PMcK&Y.
83400-83499, Lot 630-B were rebuilt in 1935.
83500-83891, Lot 638-B were rebuilt in 1936-1937.

2) ORER listings starting with the April 1938 issue which show that
most of them were remarked for the P&LE soon after they were rebuilt.

Additional ORER information and or photos from 1935 to 1937 would be
interesting.

Regarding the Tichy kit, the few photos that I have all show vertical
staff hand brakes. Based on model photos, I believe that a power hand
brake included in the kit.

According to the P&LE 1964 Annual Report the PMcK&Y continued as a
legal entity until April 1964 when it was absorbed into the P&LE.

There were still 577 PMcK&Y cars listed in the January 1959 ORER.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?

Tim O'Connor

Rich Orr wrote:
>Just happen to have an April 1952 ORER laying here on the desk. P&LE
still
>lists 3270 cars with PMcKY reporting marks. Of the 1500 original
53000 -
>54499 number series 1470 remain lettered for PMcKY. This is the
largest group
>of cars remaining in these reporting marks. The break down by car
type is 1
>XM 36' boxcar, 1496 HT hoppers, 184 HM hoppers, 1586 GB gons

Tony Thompson wrote:
Hadn't the PMcKY been absorbed by P&LE more than ten years
earlier? But there are other examples of "P-Mickey" (as it's called)
cars keeping their old lettering for YEARS after it was officially
obsolete. That wasn't always true of absorbed railroads, of course.

Re: another film

Larry Castle <sp1930s@...>
 

Railroadin' is on disk one, I don't know what Choo Choo is but just
ordered disks one and three from Netflix to find out.

Larry Castle - Seattle

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Netflix has a "The Little Rascals, the complete series" eight disk
set, which doesn't include this
title, but does include a title "Choo Choo" on the third disk.
Does anybody know if "Choo Choo" is
a retitling of "The Little Rascals in Railroadin' "?

SGL

A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin', a
shrt circa 1930 with the kids
inadvertantly starting an
ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of
trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. -
Al Westerfield

New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

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a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
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File : /PMcK&Y-P&LE reblt USRA boxcars/PMcK&Y P&LE steel rebuilt USRA boxcars vs. time.jpg
Uploaded by : bowestym <lndkline@...>
Description : ORER counts vs. time for the PMcK&Y and P&LE steel rebuilt USRA boxcars

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/PMcK%26Y-P%26LE%20reblt%20USRA%20boxcars/PMcK%26Y%20P%26LE%20steel%20rebuilt%20USRA%20boxcars%20vs.%20time.jpg

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bowestym <lndkline@...>

New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
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File : /PMcK&Y-P&LE reblt USRA boxcars/pages B61-B62 edit.jpg
Uploaded by : bowestym <lndkline@...>
Description : NYC diagram book pages for the PMcK&Y and P&LE steel rebuilt USRA boxcars

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/PMcK%26Y-P%26LE%20reblt%20USRA%20boxcars/pages%20B61-B62%20edit.jpg

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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Bill--

This is good to know. I'll order some at my LHS.

Thanks,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "W.R.Dixon" <WRDixon@...> wrote:

Steve Lucas wrote:
I've used a few methods over the years to model oily wheel faces on
STMFC's fitted with plain bearing trucks. The first was the old
modeller's standby, Floquil Grimy Black. I then used Polly-S Oily
Black. This I was most satisfied with, when Floquil discontinued this
colour. If only they'd bring it back!!!!
Still shows as available both at Walthers and on the Testors web site.

Bill Dixon

Re: Looking for Frank Peacock

Aley, Jeff A
 

Al and Bill,

That's the old address, but mail sent there should get forwarded.

I'll send you guys the new address off list.

Regards,

-Jeff


________________________________
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Westerfield
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:57 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock


Bill - Frank's address: 5741 Osuna Road N.E., Apt. 811, Albuquerque, MN87109-2571 - Al
----- Original Message -----
From: lnbill
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock

I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@...<mailto:bwelch%40uucf.org>

Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Any "patched" car shots? Did they do that back then?

Tim O'


On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?
Tim: Sorry I can't give you a proper date but Ted Cullota did a piece
in his Essential Freight Car series in RMC a few years back on USRA SS
boxcars and he included a rebuilt P&LE Tichy car that he modified with
a new Red Caboose roof. His excellent new NYC decal set includes the
necessary lettering.
Stephan Parachuk
Toronto

Re: Looking for Frank Peacock

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Bill - Frank's address: 5741 Osuna Road N.E., Apt. 811, Albuquerque, MN87109-2571 - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: lnbill
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock


I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@...

Looking for Frank Peacock

lnbill <bwelch@...>
 

I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@...

Re: AMB Wheels Masks

W.R.Dixon
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
I've used a few methods over the years to model oily wheel faces on
STMFC's fitted with plain bearing trucks. The first was the old
modeller's standby, Floquil Grimy Black. I then used Polly-S Oily
Black. This I was most satisfied with, when Floquil discontinued this
colour. If only they'd bring it back!!!!
Still shows as available both at Walthers and on the Testors web site.

Bill Dixon

Re: another film

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Netflix has a "The Little Rascals, the complete series" eight disk set, which doesn't include this
title, but does include a title "Choo Choo" on the third disk. Does anybody know if "Choo Choo" is
a retitling of "The Little Rascals in Railroadin' "?

SGL

A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin', a shrt circa 1930 with the kids
inadvertantly starting an
ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. -
Al Westerfield

Re: another film

CJ Riley
 

For any of you in the Seattle area, the NMRA division has this in their video library. I have a copy and highly recommend it. Lots of freight cars in the back ground.

CJ Riley

--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Westerfield <westerfield@...> wrote:
From: Westerfield <westerfield@...>
Subject: [STMFC] another film
To: STMFC@...
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 1:26 PM












A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin', a shrt circa 1930 with the kids inadvertantly starting an ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. - Al Westerfield



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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Chuck, I read "in our timeframe" as meaning in the timeframe of this list . . . .

SGL

Might we remark that this is the STEAM era freight car list?
Steam locomotives tend to shed oil and grease outside the rail so not
all that roadbed staining is due to solid bearings on the cars.
Some got flung off side rods.
Chuck Peck

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...>
wrote:

If you look at photos of mainline track in our timeframe, you'll see
that the rails are often oily black to the outside of the track, and
rusty on the inside. This was a result of oil sprayed off wheelsets.
And yes, this oil had leaked from plain bearing journal boxes.

Steve Lucas.

Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

George Courtney
 

Pure suppositon, but Southern loaded some coke in open hoppers which
could have been sent to the eastern Pa. area to a foundry or steel
mill and then were reloaded and sent into New England from there
rather than returned home.

George Courtney

On Sat, February 7, 2009 8:15 am, A. Premo wrote:
Well,maybe not so obscure,but seeing an IC stock car,a
Southern and
CBQ
hopper in northern New England left me scratching my
head .Armand Premo

Armand,

The hoppers are a puzzle someone else might address, but coming
up with a
plausible story for the stock car is relatively easy. Clearly,
it came
from the west, most likely the Chicago area. I don't know how
much
finished beef ended up being shipped for slaughter to New
England from
Chicago but that is definitely one possibility. Large amounts
certainly
traveled as far as New York. This car would simply have been an
available
empty at the point of loading. Headed in the "wrong direction"
according
to car service rules, but hey, they needed an empty (and we all
know by
now that car service rules were often ignored at the local
level)!
Another option would be the transfer of breeding cattle (most
likely
dairy) from a location on the IC to the location in New
England. After
all, it is doubtful that the IC had an empty Rutland car on hand
to load
<VBG>.


Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
 

Might we remark that this is the STEAM era freight car list?
Steam locomotives tend to shed oil and grease outside the rail so not
all that roadbed staining is due to solid bearings on the cars.
Some got flung off side rods.
Chuck Peck

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> wrote:

If you look at photos of mainline track in our timeframe, you'll see
that the rails are often oily black to the outside of the track, and
rusty on the inside. This was a result of oil sprayed off wheelsets.
And yes, this oil had leaked from plain bearing journal boxes.

Steve Lucas.

Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Tim O'Connor
 

Any "patched" car shots? Did they do that back then?

Tim O'

On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?
Yes, I have photos and will send you a scan or two when I have time.
Richard Hendrickson

Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?





Yes, I have photos and will send you a scan or two when I have time.

Richard Hendrickson

Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----

PMcKY 53144 mty HT
Hadn't the PMcKY been absorbed by P&LE more than ten years
earlier? But there are other examples of "P-Mickey" (as it's called)
cars keeping their old lettering for YEARS after it was officially
obsolete. That wasn't always true of absorbed railroads, of course.

Tony Thompson
Sorry to be acknowledging that time does continue past the end of this list's sunset, but there are,
today, a few cars still in Erie Lackawanna reporting marks, and thanks to crummy paint applied
directly over dirt, lettering too, a mere 33 years after the road was killed.

SGL

Re: "Fascinated by the obscure freight car distribution on smaller RRs"

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lucas
"Remember our continual discussion of freight car distribution, to be concluded sometime in the
future.....????"

"Concluded?" Oh, I doubt it. I seriously doubt it.

SGL

Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

armprem
 

The Rutland stopped sending its hoppers to the mines in the mid thirties.At least one was wrecked on the CNW or IC.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Smith" <@smithbf>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"


On Sat, February 7, 2009 8:15 am, A. Premo wrote:
Well,maybe not so obscure,but seeing an IC stock car,a Southern and
CBQ
hopper in northern New England left me scratching my head .Armand Premo
Armand,

The hoppers are a puzzle someone else might address, but coming up with a
plausible story for the stock car is relatively easy. Clearly, it came
from the west, most likely the Chicago area. I don't know how much
finished beef ended up being shipped for slaughter to New England from
Chicago but that is definitely one possibility. Large amounts certainly
traveled as far as New York. This car would simply have been an available
empty at the point of loading. Headed in the "wrong direction" according
to car service rules, but hey, they needed an empty (and we all know by
now that car service rules were often ignored at the local level)!
Another option would be the transfer of breeding cattle (most likely
dairy) from a location on the IC to the location in New England. After
all, it is doubtful that the IC had an empty Rutland car on hand to load
<VBG>.


Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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