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Re: some steam era work train equipment images - L&N sand car

Steven D Johnson
 

Claus,

 

Thanks for posting the links to those work equipment photos.

 

L&N diesel sand cars nos. 40950-40953 were converted from old tenders in 1941.  These cars were later renumbered to 40069-40072.  Capacity was 800 cu. ft.  I have attached diagrams sheets for the original numbers and later renumbering.  

 

Perhaps the oddest L&N diesel sand car was #40073 (see diagram).  This one was converted from an old tender in June 1948.

 

Photographs of nos. 40072 and 40073 can be seen on page 78 of the L&N Color Guide, Volume 2.

 

Steve Johnson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:25 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] some steam era work train equipment images

 

Hi List Members,

 

I stumbled upon some steam era work train equipment images of various types

 

 

 


IC X4356 tender cistern on flat car

 

 

 

 

IC (number unreadable) single sheathed boxcar with windows

 

 

 

 

L&N 40069, described as 'sand car' a bit of a mystery!

 

 

 

 

NYC car, possible tank car? Possible weed sprayer? Possibly rebuild from a steam loco tender?

 

 

 

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

 

 


 


Re: Those interested in stock cars and their associated stock yards

Bob Chaparro
 

Livestock Car With Roof Hatches

The first photo on the link is (to me) very interesting as it raises several questions:

https://alchetron.com/cdn/union-stock-yards-fbd57413-559b-4587-9245-93f1c9ffec5-resize-750.jpeg

My take on the hatches is that for these particular cars the hatches were for feeding and watering the stock. But there seem to be a problem.

These are double deck cars so unless there was a way to retract the upper level the hatches would not allow feeding and watering for the lower level, or the loading of bulk commodities for non-livestock transport.

Does anyone know more about these particular cars?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Salt tank cars 1926

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

Myles Salt Company had a mine and works on Weeks Island In Louisiana. Apparently this was a major operation, and an internet search brings up lots of images of their ads and packaging. The company was sold to Morton in 1947, and the mine is still in operation. While there are nofreifght cars shown, a biographical page on one of the owners has several photos of the mine and associated plants: http://www.foertmeyer.com/SpringGrove/card76.html

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:17 AM Thomas Evans via groups.io <tomkevans=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I don't think any of you have posted these interesting salt tank cars from 1926

http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16797coll21/id/94/rec/87

Tom E.


Re: ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

Schuyler Larrabee
 

A knowledgeable friend offered this about the image:

 

I bet that concrete structure on a skid was a telephone box. The Erie had them all over the place at least in Ohio and Indiana. The train crews absolutely hated them. They were dark, miserably hot in summer, miserably cold in winter, and attracted all kinds of stinging insects to build nests inside, especially right near (or ON) the telephone sets. I remember being on a train that was significantly delayed once by bees in one of those. The crew finally used a fusee to burn/smoke the bees out, but the risk that entailed was setting fire to the wiring/insulation and defeating the purpose of the installation!

 

Schuyler

 

But with two doors, I stick with it being a privy.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

 

Notice the hogs in the pen with the hog shed.

 

What is the white octagonal building? A phone booth? It’s up on cribbing and it looks like a tool boxes and other supplies around it. There are work crew cars with walk planks among the siding. Indications of a work project in town?

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:06 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

 

Hi List Members,

 

ERIE boxcars in 1914, and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep at the link below

 

 

Also, a high resolution image is available at the link below

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Doug, that is a precast concrete privy, with two doors leading to a very small space with the usual feature (a hole) on both sides.  The ERIE used a lot of these, and also the same sort of structure with one door as telephone booths everywhere.  This one is sitting on cribbing, waiting for a MOW crane to pick it up for placement where it’s needed.

 

I don’t think these were exclusively an ERIE item, but I can’t recall right now where else I’ve seen them.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

 

Notice the hogs in the pen with the hog shed.

 

What is the white octagonal building? A phone booth? It’s up on cribbing and it looks like a tool boxes and other supplies around it. There are work crew cars with walk planks among the siding. Indications of a work project in town?

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:06 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

 

Hi List Members,

 

ERIE boxcars in 1914, and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep at the link below

 

 

Also, a high resolution image is available at the link below

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

Thomas Birkett
 

Similar octagonal building north of an abandoned carbon black plant we leased to load tank cars of crude oil. It was on the T and NM and looked factory made about 10 years ago but the building looked really old.
Tom Birkett
Bartlesville, OK



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-------- Original message --------
From: Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
Date: 7/25/20 4:01 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

Notice the hogs in the pen with the hog shed.

 

What is the white octagonal building? A phone booth? It’s up on cribbing and it looks like a tool boxes and other supplies around it. There are work crew cars with walk planks among the siding. Indications of a work project in town?

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:06 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcars in 1914 and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep

 

Hi List Members,

 

ERIE boxcars in 1914, and a nice view of a loading pen with sheep at the link below

 

 

Also, a high resolution image is available at the link below

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: Salt tank cars 1926

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Tom,
 
Nice that you noticed these - we did discuss these cars briefly back in 2018, see dates and message numbers below (as found in the GROUPS.IO archive for this list)
 
Salt Tank Cars By Ralph W. Brown · #155780 · 03/10/18
Salt Tank Cars from 1926 By rwitt_2000 · #155766 · 03/10/18
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:17 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Salt tank cars 1926

I don't think any of you have posted these interesting salt tank cars from 1926

http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16797coll21/id/94/rec/87

Tom E.


Salt tank cars 1926

Thomas Evans
 

I don't think any of you have posted these interesting salt tank cars from 1926

http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16797coll21/id/94/rec/87

Tom E.


Re: Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant

Brian Termunde
 

Bob;
You are certainly one of the most prolific posters on this on and my other groups! That's NOT a complaint, it is praise! 

While many of your posts, or rather, the subjects of your post are of little interest to me personally, I am but one person in this and those groups. So even though I don't view each and every link, I DO appreciate you taking the time to share them with us! You are very generous doing so.

I hope that you continue to share your discoveries with us, I'm very grateful, here, and on our other groups! Again, Thank you very much!
 
Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


Re: SEEKING PHOTO HELP

Todd Sullivan
 

Bill,

I may be able to help you, but I will have to dig some, and I probably won't get to that until Monday.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Image of CI&L 20301 40ft flat with architectural column 1929

akerboomk
 

I like the “T” section (?) Andrews trucks


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Image of CH&D 46587 36ft trussrod box 1913

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 07:07 PM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
I thought that it was just hobos who "rode the rods" - or did the shipper run out of room in the boxcar for that last bale of hay and stuck it on the truss rods under the car?

What a great photo of a wood underframe. Note how dainty the body bolster is (at least it's metal, might be wrought iron) and how the draft gear is fitted between DRAFT SILLS that are bolted to the underside of the center sills. Tiny little coupler with no draft key; the coupler shank was riveted to the yoke in those days, With a piece of flat bar stock bolted to the wood sills for a carry iron.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Image of VS&P 26022 36ft trussrod vent box

Jim Ogden
 

Vicksburg, Shreveport, and Pacific a. Illinois Central subsidiary.

Jim Ogden


Re: some steam era work train equipment images

Jack Mullen
 

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:25 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
NYC car, possible tank car? Possible weed sprayer? Possibly rebuild from a steam loco tender?
Diesel fuel car according to the description. That's consistent with the hose and nozzle hanging on the side.
Speculation, but I suspect that's a caboose underframe.

The sand car does appear to be built on a tender frame.

Jack Mullen


Re: Image of VS&P 26022 36ft trussrod vent box

Kenneth Montero
 

Vicksburg, Shreveport & Pacific -in 1926, it was leased to the Yazoo and Mississippi Valley Railroad, and merged into the Illinois Central Railroad in 1959.

Please note that it is a ventilator car.

Ken Montero

On 07/25/2020 9:08 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,

Image of VS&P 26022 36ft trussrod vent box in 1895, looks to be a Ohio Falls Car Mfg Co builders photo. Right off the bat I don't know what those reporting marks stand for... any thoughts?


Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


 


Re: Image of CH&D 46587 36ft trussrod box 1913

Kenneth Montero
 

I thought that it was just hobos who "rode the rods" - or did the shipper run out of room in the boxcar for that last bale of hay and stuck it on the truss rods under the car?

Ken Montero

On 07/25/2020 9:01 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,

Image of CH&D 46587 36ft trussrod box 1913


Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


Re: Photo: B&O Boxcar In MOW Service

Kenneth Montero
 

Bob,

The car number on the "A" end appears to be 277296. I believe that car would be classed as a M-26(D), according to a table in the B&O Modeler No 47, p. 49 (Summer 2018). That issue is still available online.

Ken Montero.

On 07/25/2020 8:55 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: B&O Boxcar In MOW Service

A photo from Marty Bernard on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129679309@N05/49295251703/in/album-72157661360791085/

This one certainly is a veteran of the rails. The car number is too faint for me to see on my monitor.

Are those patch plates along the bottom of the car?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Image of PRR 426939 FM flat 1935 Indianapolis IN

Bruce Smith
 

Note that this car still has arch bar trucks at this late date.

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 8:13 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Image of PRR 426939 FM flat 1935 Indianapolis IN
 
Hi List Members,
 
Image of PRR 426939 FM flat 1935 Indianapolis IN
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: Image of CI&L 20301 40ft flat with architectural column 1929

CJ Riley
 

Clearly a limestone half column, or pilaster. Indiana limestone was the standard for many public buildings.




Image of CI&W 19204 ss box 1925 Indianapolis IN

David
 

There's a rare one: auto-box version of the Americanized Fowler/Dominion car. CI&W 19201-19300 built by Haskell & Barker in 1916, became B&O M31a 190300-190397.

David Thompson

9801 - 9820 of 186051