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Re: NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Jerry Hamsmith
 

Eric -

Those cars in the series with wood floors had a smaller IH than those with a steel floor (4' 4" versus 4' 8") and a smaller cubic capacity.  Each ORER noted the existence of the difference in the series and had a footnote listing the specific cars with the wood floors.  The October, 1951 ORER (the date of the photo of 751478) does not list that number.  So, yes, it would be a steel floor car.  My understanding is that all cars got the reinforcement angle, but I am not certain.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

From the 1940 CBC

 

 

 

 

And here is a page from the 1946 CBC

 

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Bruce Smith
 

Dave,

Is it equipped with the correct Unit Truck? ;)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Sep 17, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!
 
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Dave Lotz
 

Hi all,

 

In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!

 

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

np328
 

Correction to the coal comment - it is Anthracite coal.  Oh well, wife likes it, I get to walk in and smell a coal fire.      JD


Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Andy Carlson
 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

Inline image

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

np328
 

Just looked at Google Maps street view .......Garth, it is gone, gone, gone. One of the open fields. 
I will find an older map of Duluth /Superior and upload the image or put in into the files. 

Non railroad story here: My late brother and I used to tent camp up on the north shore of Lake Superior at times into December. More than once we stopped by C Reiss in Superior on the way north and gathered some of the briquettes that had escaped the property line cyclone fence meant to contain them along the public road.  Once a fire was started we would toss several into the campfire. The heat was truly intense, and often very welcome.  I have to agree with Dennis though as when the briquettes were tossed in and just starting, the smoke of the fire had a definite petroleum stink. 

On the hand - after a vaccine and travel can be done freely and safely again, if you ever get to Minneapolis, try this place  https://blacksheeppizza.com/     coal fired pizza, not cheap but for all the (here comes the railroad content) stories of locomotive coal shovel chefs you've read about, this place uses Bituminous coal to cook with.  Very good.  I'm sure there are others. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN 


SOLD: 4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

Andy Carlson
 

I am out of the parts posted for sale earlier today.
Thanks, everyone!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA









Re: Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine

Eric Hansmann
 

Claus,

 

The image features several B&O hoppers. From left to right are the following.

B&O 32XXXX - N-12e twin hopper
B&O 532495 - W-2a class
B&O 431735 - W-2b class
B&O 430677 - W-2b class

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:04 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine

 

Hi List Members,

 

Image of B&O 532495/431735/430677 hoppers at coal mine. B&O 430677 appears to be a class W-2B hopper.

 

 

Enjoy!

 

CLaus Schlund

 


Re: NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Eric Hansmann
 

Jerry, that image of NYC 751478 is interesting. The car may have had a steel floor installed to replace the wood floor installed previously. The reinforcement angle on the top of the car side may be a clue.

 

But the car has retained a vertical brake staff through the years. I had thought the AAR mandated geared handbrake wheels for cars rebuilt after 1937.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Hamsmith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

 

As the new RCW kit for these cars are now being shipped, I was wondering if anyone had additional photos of the cars.  The RCW site has three builder's photos of the cars when they were in the 324000 series.  There is also one photo of the car (#751478) after the drop doors were removed from the cars during World War II in a refurbishing effort.  The cars so modified were place into the 751000 series and these are the cars the kit covers.
I have looked for additional photos of the cars but so far have been unable to find any.  I do have the diagram sheet from the NYC site but was unable to find additional photos there.  Thanks in advance for looking.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: 4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

O Fenton Wells
 

Andy I'll take 3 sets of the ladders and 2 sets of ends and one of the brakes. I'll send a check for 27.50.
Thanks
Fenton

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:51 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Hello-

Intermountain's new policy this year to refuse selling parts has just cemented my reasons for limiting my parts selling. I have a few remaining items which I am going to offer to folks of this list.

I have a few IMRC 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends of the slightly narrower top rib and no poling pockets. Many of us would recognize this end as being for a 10'6" Inside height car. Debuting in 1944, this has a recess on the top rib for the power brake housing on the 'B' end.

I also have for 10'6" IH cars 8-rung ladders, also from Intermountain. These were tooled for their Canadian version of the 10'6" modified AAR box car. Each set has 4 of the 8-rung ladders, two with the corner sill steps integral with the ladders. Also included are 8 bracket grabs. The tooling used for the production of these ladders were still fresh and no flash is present.

The parts for the power brake details show no flash, which is good for Intermountain, as many times their Ajax brake wheels have flash partially and often fully filling in the holes in the hubs. This set of parts include 2 corner sill steps each of 45 degree bent style and square corner style. 4 route placards for doors, Ajax power housing with chain and rod, Ajax brake wheel, brake release rod and valve.

Prices are:

$4.50 for the 4/4 IDE per pair
$4.50 for the 8-rung ladders
$1.00 for the power brake detail set

Shipping is $4 flat rate for one or dozens.

I do not have a list of parts. Contact me off-list (Please) for info at <midcentury@...>

I accept checks and money orders. with a small fee PayPal is welcomed, and F-t-F PayPal is the same total as check.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA









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4/4 IDE's and 8-rung ladders for 10'6" IH

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

Intermountain's new policy this year to refuse selling parts has just cemented my reasons for limiting my parts selling. I have a few remaining items which I am going to offer to folks of this list.

I have a few IMRC 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends of the slightly narrower top rib and no poling pockets. Many of us would recognize this end as being for a 10'6" Inside height car. Debuting in 1944, this has a recess on the top rib for the power brake housing on the 'B' end.

I also have for 10'6" IH cars 8-rung ladders, also from Intermountain. These were tooled for their Canadian version of the 10'6" modified AAR box car. Each set has 4 of the 8-rung ladders, two with the corner sill steps integral with the ladders. Also included are 8 bracket grabs. The tooling used for the production of these ladders were still fresh and no flash is present.

The parts for the power brake details show no flash, which is good for Intermountain, as many times their Ajax brake wheels have flash partially and often fully filling in the holes in the hubs. This set of parts include 2 corner sill steps each of 45 degree bent style and square corner style. 4 route placards for doors, Ajax power housing with chain and rod, Ajax brake wheel, brake release rod and valve.

Prices are:

$4.50 for the 4/4 IDE per pair
$4.50 for the 8-rung ladders
$1.00 for the power brake detail set

Shipping is $4 flat rate for one or dozens.

I do not have a list of parts. Contact me off-list (Please) for info at <midcentury@...>

I accept checks and money orders. with a small fee PayPal is welcomed, and F-t-F PayPal is the same total as check.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA








Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Brian;

 

The continued lack of a H-20-44 is inexplicable.  But, we do have access to Ted’s kit, the beautiful IM alt std hopper, and the ability to kit-bash an early PS-1 and Sunshine Beth gon and 46’ gon or Accurail car, plus the Stewart channel-side hoppers.  The missing ones are the NKP lease cars, the early gons and rebuilds, the AAR hoppers, and some others.  Better than the picture for B&O, for example.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

 

I’ve been a PWV fan for years but lack of available locos kept me at bay. I like their black boxcars.

Brian


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Bill!  I have one of those kits, but have not finished it.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

 

Oneof these cars was covered in one of Ted's Essential Freight Cars series and he also offered a kit for the car.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>

Date: 9/15/20 4:34 AM (GMT-10:00)

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

 

Elden,

 

I'm not into the P&WV, but do you have Greg Martin's September 1993 MM article on modeling their boxcars? If you need a copy, please meet me off group.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:01 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Group;

 

I really want to engage with people that are kmowlegeable about the P&WV’s freight car fleet.  Please reply.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Garth!  I do have that article, and talked with Greg several times over a number of years, on P&WV freight cars.

 

I am preparing a PowerPoint covering their fleet, and am surprised at how little they are discussed.

 

I have built a Beth 52’ gon with container load, plus an early PS-1, using Jack Consoli’s excellent decals, plus a Sunshine 46’ gon, all of which I love, but the remainder I need are slow-going.  Not a lot of info out there.

 

Thanks again!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:35 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] P&WV box cars

 

Elden,

 

I'm not into the P&WV, but do you have Greg Martin's September 1993 MM article on modeling their boxcars? If you need a copy, please meet me off group.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:01 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Group;

 

I really want to engage with people that are kmowlegeable about the P&WV’s freight car fleet.  Please reply.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: RPCyc 35

James Brewer
 

I will second what everyone else has said; the drawings and photos, especially of cars that have been in service, are fantastic; but don't drop the book on your foot! It weighs over 3 pounds!

Jim Brewer


Re: B&M pulpwood cars sold to West Virginia Pulp & Paper cars?

akerboomk
 

If it helps, I found another 9 cars sold to them in Jul, 1949

Ken


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NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Jerry Hamsmith
 

As the new RCW kit for these cars are now being shipped, I was wondering if anyone had additional photos of the cars.  The RCW site has three builder's photos of the cars when they were in the 324000 series.  There is also one photo of the car (#751478) after the drop doors were removed from the cars during World War II in a refurbishing effort.  The cars so modified were place into the 751000 series and these are the cars the kit covers.
I have looked for additional photos of the cars but so far have been unable to find any.  I do have the diagram sheet from the NYC site but was unable to find additional photos there.  Thanks in advance for looking.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Andy,

Out of curiosity, I went to Google maps and looked for the C. Reiss plant. No such luck, though the building may still exist. A street address would help. However, a closed C. Reiss "coal field" shows across the St. Louis River in West Duluth near the intersection of Waseca Industrial Road and Leisure Street. This location is also listed for C. Reiss Coal Co. as a firewood dealer, but either way this area appears to have been cleared for redevelopment.

C. Reiss still has a coal loading operation in Green Bay. Google Maps also delivers two listings for C. Reiss Coal Co. in various other cities that are marked "attorney", which sounds very odd to me.

Sometimes I just want to throw up my hands and scream when trying to find something specific on Google Maps.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:50 AM Andy Laurent via groups.io <andy.laurent=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 11:23 PM, np328 wrote:
   The C Reiss briquette plant was (may still be) in Superior, WI along Winter Street, not far from where the NP's grassy Point bridge was/is.
                                                                                                                           Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN 
C Reiss also had a coal briquette plant in Green Bay on the Milwaukee Road at the southwest corner of State and 7th Streets (near their large 2-gantry coal yard on the Fox River).  It was operated seasonally into the 1960s at least (evidenced by waybilled shipments to a foundry in Algoma, WI on the A&W Rwy).

Andy Laurent
Madison, WI

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