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Re: Missouri-Illinois RR book plug

John Drake
 

Charlie,

Congrats on this accomplishment!  I am personally excited about this book as I have always found the M-I a very interesting railroad.  I have my order in.  I hope there are many others who put their orders in too!

John Drake
Prototype Junction


Re: REA questions

Donald B. Valentine
 

   Thanks to all who replied to my question about the square REA herald standinng on one corner.
I have both the RPC's cited and Vic Roseman's bookut unfortunately we stilldon't seemto know when
the herald with its initial internal lettering was first used on REA rolling stock. My cut-off date is 31 
December 1948 so I guess I'll use my one reefer with the original style of the herald until someone can 
prove me worng after which I may continue to use it under "modeler's license'.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: ATSF Automobile cars/door color

ottokroutil
 


Re: reefer MDT 13755 on display at the Fulton County Museum

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Lester,
 
I see what you are asking about, but I don't have an answer to the question.
 
Perhaps others will know.
 
For future reference, the image that Lester refered to is linked below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Claus Thank You for sharing.  Question?  On the first photo of MDT 13755 on the right side near the “A” end the is a small rectangle with a lever located on the sill.  Can provide name if any and purpose?
Lester Breuer


Re: reefer MDT 13755 on display at the Fulton County Museum

Lester Breuer
 

Claus Thank You for sharing.  Question?  On the first photo of MDT 13755 on the right side near the “A” end the is a small rectangle with a lever located on the sill.  Can provide name if any and purpose?
Lester Breuer


Re: REA questions

George Hollwedel
 

I have Vic Roseman's "Railway Express" An Overview, open to page 105. Diagram III - 1953 show Hunter Green and 60" tall red/white herald. Gold lettering.It also says Black, Green, gray or Silver roofs and ends.

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On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 12:03:38 PM CST, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 02:42 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
Did the REA  NOT use the square herald standing on a corner prior to 1950?
Well of course the red diamond was used a lot prior to the '50s, on buildings, vehicles, labels, billboards...
But I assume your question is in the rail car context. 
There's a lot of uncertainty about "exact" dates for Railway Express p&l changes. My understanding is that most corporate records disappeared with the company's demise, so much depends on photo evidence.
"About 1953" is commonly cited for introduction of the 60" red diamond on express reefers.
RPC 7 has extensive coverage of express reefers, with an addendum in RPC 9.
Jack Mullen


Missouri-Illinois RR book plug

Charlie Duckworth
 

For the past 2 1/2 years I’ve been working on a book covering the Missouri-Illinois Railroad.  The book went to the publisher three weeks ago (740 photos and 76,000 words). There’s a chapter on the freight cars used by the M-I and the prior roads that made up the M-I in 1921 that maybe of interest to this group.  For more details and a few photos go to http://www.mopac.org/store/m-i-book

This effort was done as a fund raiser for the Missouri Pacific Historical Society.  
-- 

Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


reefer MDT 13755 on display at the Fulton County Museum

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
While this is way past my own era of interest, I thought maybe some members might be interested in seeing the reefer MDT 13755 which is on display at the Fulton County Museum in Indiana.
 
I stumbled upon it while driving from Indianapolis to South Bend.
 
It has been repainted grey, but the original lettering is still barely discernable under the new paint.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: REA questions

Jack Mullen
 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 02:42 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
Did the REA  NOT use the square herald standing on a corner prior to 1950?
Well of course the red diamond was used a lot prior to the '50s, on buildings, vehicles, labels, billboards...
But I assume your question is in the rail car context. 
There's a lot of uncertainty about "exact" dates for Railway Express p&l changes. My understanding is that most corporate records disappeared with the company's demise, so much depends on photo evidence.
"About 1953" is commonly cited for introduction of the 60" red diamond on express reefers.
RPC 7 has extensive coverage of express reefers, with an addendum in RPC 9.
Jack Mullen


Re: REA questions

Jake Schaible
 

REA was of course founded in March of 1929 as a merger of several competing regional agencies, and while I can not confirm the uses of a diamond logo by REA right from the start, I do have seen early 30's images with such.  Many of the predecessor lines also used a diamond shaped logos (including both American Railroad Express and Wells Fargo & Co).


ATSF Automobile cars/door color

ottokroutil
 

I came across a grainy color film on Facebook that shows what appears to be black doors on a 50’ ATSF Automobile car. It has the standard herald, but no maps or slogans, just the word “Automobile” on the right side.
I’m aware many roads used black doors and white stripes to distinguish auto cars with special equipment, but didn’t know Santa Fe was one of them. SFMO Painting and Lettering Guide by Richard Hendrickson has no references to such a practice. My guess is this is a pre-1940 scheme, or perhaps a short-term experiment, and if so, how late could one expect to see a car like this before it was repainted? 


Re: REA questions

Donald B. Valentine
 

   Did the REA  NOT use the square herald standing on a corner prior to 1950?
Have never been certain of its date. Thanks for anything definitive.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: F&C resin kits

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Bill & Group!

The instruction sheet for my F&C PRR G28 provides two phone numbers--

    570-224-4989 and 570 352-2282

Trust this is helpful.

Mike Schleigh in snowy Grove City, Penna.

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 09:08:54 PM EST, WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:






Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Where do they hide their phone numbers?

Bill Pardie


Re: F&C resin kits

WILLIAM PARDIE
 





Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Where do they hide their phone numbers?

Bill Pardie


Re: REA questions

Tim O'Connor
 

Don

The gold lettered scheme was introduced in 1953.

The white lettered scheme began in 1960.

Then from 1961 the lettering style changed to sans serif and the
new REA herald was introduced. At first the cars were Hunter Green
and then later Chromate Green.

Tim O'



On 2/11/2020 10:06 PM, Don DeLay via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a few questions if anyone knows the answers. What years are these cars good for and when did the paint change from dark to light green? Thanks in advance

Don DeLay

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Re: REA questions

steve_wintner
 

Based on Sunshine's instructions for their 6100 series, I believe both schemes are 1952+. REX 6275 looks like it may be in the scheme introduced in 1952. 


REA questions

Don DeLay
 

I have a few questions if anyone knows the answers. What years are these cars good for and when did the paint change from dark to light green? Thanks in advance

Don DeLay


Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Tony Thompson
 

Thomas Birkett wrote:

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.

   Thanks very much. I appreciate any help. I too have heard the World's Fair story but the _Railway Age_ coverage of the event, though it showed a number of pieces of freight equipment, did not show this car. It of course may simply have been omitted.

Tony Thompson




Re: GA box car colors

Paul Doggett
 

Bill
Thank you for that tip, I have the microscale black Roman lettering.
Paul Doggett 


On 12 Feb 2020, at 18:30, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

You are welcome Paul. There is an oversight with the Speedwitch decals for these cars as the "XM" is missing. I used one from the Microscale Roman Data.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Bill Welch
 

You are welcome Paul. There is an oversight with the Speedwitch decals for these cars as the "XM" is missing. I used one from the Microscale Roman Data.

Bill Welch